"HOW sorry are you feeling? Your sympathy is important to me. Meet me behind the Starbucks in 15."
Posted on 12/02/2007 8:27:20 AM PST by Leisler
David Phillips. Mike Jones. Greg Ruth. Tom Russell.
Four gay men, willing to put their names in print and whose allegations can't be disproved, have come forward since news of U.S. Sen. Larry Craig's guilty plea. They say they had sex with Craig or that he made a sexual advance or that he paid them unusual attention.
They are telling their stories now because they are offended by Craig's denials, including his famous statement, "I am not gay, I never have been gay." Those words, spoken on live national TV on Aug. 28, are now memorialized on a just-released-for-Christmas Talking Senator Larry Craig Action Figure.
David Phillips is a 42-year-old information technology consultant in Washington, D.C., who says Craig picked him up at a gay club in 1986 and that they subsequently had sex.
Mike Jones is a former prostitute who told the world he had sex with the Rev. Ted Haggard last year. The former Colorado Springs evangelist at first denied it but eventually confessed. Jones says Craig paid him for sex in late 2004 or early 2005.
Greg Ruth was a 24-year-old college Republican in 1981 when he says he was hit on by Craig at a Republican meeting in Coeur d'Alene.
Tom Russell, now 48, is a former Nampa resident who lives in Utah. Russell said his encounter with Craig occurred at Bogus Basin in the early 1980s.
A fifth gay man, who is from Boise but who declined to be named for fear of retaliation, offered a recent and telling account: He was in a men's restroom at Denver International Airport in September 2006 when the man in the next stall moved his hand slowly, palm up, under the divider. Alarmed,....
(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...
That’s pretty pathetic regardless of what one thinks of Craig’s conduct and credibility.
This paper is out to get him. It’s one thing to seek a story and go behind the scenes to gather information, but to publish something like this and with the language you quoted shows a lack of ethics and integrity.
I almost feel sorry for Craig after this.
<< More gay men describe sexual encounters with U.S. Sen. Craig >>
...than what?
I worry 'bout me, too. Didn't get much sleep this morning since the jackasses next door resumed their work way early. They put up a 4-block high (at the close end - 2 blocks at the far end because of the altitude of the hill) cement wall in a matter of a few hours. It's crooked, off-kilter, and almost as ugly as Helen Thomas. Whether they intend to build higher, I have no idea. I'm sure they do not have a permit to build it. It seems rather pointless unless they're intending on putting up some sort of wood fence atop it, because you can step right over it.
"But soap operas and Judge Judy? Dude! Judy’s great but I’d rather be hobbying than watching soaps."
Well, I should say that I'm usually doing two things at once. It's hard for me to just sit and watch tv without being at the comp. and doing something else, and since the tv is directly in the background above it, it's like watching two screens. I enjoy my ABC soaps, though, and my former fiancee got me hooked (although, I tended to prefer the nighttime ones of yore, like Dallas, Knots Landing, and Dynasty. The ones they do today have lost my interest. Ironically, the ones that were aimed at my demographic at the time in the '90s, such as Beverly Hills 90210 and Melrose Place bored me to pieces. Nobody could compete with J.R. Ewing and Blake Carrington & Alexis). Well, you get the idea.
"Deep down in your britches, yep, those are nads and they say do something productive or at least something of a legacy. After demonstrating your superior knowledge of political history for years here I believe you can put a definitive book together that would ignite new interest in a subject most people run from. If you did this you would be personally responsible for causing the Democrat Party serious damage."
Hey, I'd do a bigger service just getting rid of the RINOs. At least Democrats have the common courtesy of staying on their side of the aisle.
A minute and 12 seconds, dude. Just the amount of time Ol’ Craig needs from his fellow bathroom patrons...
(Great minds...)
"HOW sorry are you feeling? Your sympathy is important to me. Meet me behind the Starbucks in 15."
What are you talking about? The state is not trying to prove Larry Craig is a homosexual. There has been no evidence presented in court to prove that. Why? Because the state has already found him guilty of a crime. The crime the state charged him with has already been proved. How? Craig admitted to it. It’s a done deal. Craig has already tried to appeal it and has lost. He says he will keep trying. Why? He needs to give it up. He admitted his guilt, his appeal has been rejected. Game, set, match it’s over. The only one hanging on in some vain attempt to regain his reputation is Craig.
The State has no burden to prove anything. Larry Craig had his days in court. He lost. Now after doing everything wrong, he needs to man up and do what is right. But then again, he does seem to have a problem with being a man.
Know much about law, do you? Larry Craig's confession was evidence of his guilt, evidence that the state advanced to establish its case. Without that evidence, the state may or may not have been able to prove the charges against Craig. But in any case, the state not only DOES have to prove something, it has an ABSOLUTE burden to prove it! That Craig made it easier by confessing doesn't change the requirement.
On Aug. 8, 1980, during his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience.
But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building.
He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.
Did he use a condom with his wife? Or did he lie to her too?
Did he risk her life for a hand job and more?
We'll know when Mrs. Craig gets tested for AIDS. Or dies of it... Either way, he's pond scum. We can do better.
Why should the national GOP give money and support for any GOP politician that doesn’t sign some sort of party contract? Why does a rat trap, wood frame, low rent condo association have more discipline and rules than the RNC/GOP?
EW!
We’ll probably never know.
It’s not above a “gay” person to lie. I listened to one of them ... you’d think that Craig was salivating to be the one doing the act on another and supposedly did.
Totally digusting stuff ... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2b1N74bQUE
There is something creepy about this guy ... .
Any rumors to Mitt being gay?
He’s creepy too.
You’re a little bit nutty aren’t you. It’s over for Larry. The burden of proof is no longer on the state since it has won its case twice. The burden is on Larry to make a case for over turning a judgment upheld twice in court. He could try to prove he is mentally deficient or he could say he is insane. By his behavior you could say both of these statements are true, but the fact that he is a Senator would make those arguments a lot less compelling.
The state has already proved its case. Larry can only get them to reconsider by proving he’s mentally ill, loony, retarded or a liar. Though proving himself a liar probably won’t help his case.
I don't believe a word of these accusations. Politically-active gays are always looking for an opening to advance their cause and Craig provided a doozie. His "victims" will pop up regularly now till the general election.
This is why the GOP leadership MUST find some way to to oust him. Start with ripping the stalls out of the private senate washrooms. Then change the locks.....he should get the message pretty fast.
Leni
You're falling into their trap!
Rules for Radicals provides the organizer with a tactical style for community organization that assumes an adversarial relationship between groups of people in which one either dominates or is dominated.
“Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this. They can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”
ap is running this
Paper: 8 men claim encounters with Craig
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_us/craig_encounters;_ylt=AonLjZQZ.ArarE.b5imgMHZvzwcF
BOISE, Idaho - Eight men say they either had sex with Sen. Larry Craig or were targets of sexual advances by the Idaho lawmaker at various times during his political career, a newspaper reported Sunday.
One of the men is the former escort whose allegations disgraced the Rev. Ted Haggard, former president of the National Association of Evangelicals, the Idaho Statesman reported.
The newspaper identified four men and reported details of the encounters they say involved Craig. It also reported the accounts of four other men who did not agree to be identified but who described sexual advances or encounters involving the conservative Republican, who opposes same-sex marriage and has a strong record against gay rights.
Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct after being accused by an undercover officer of soliciting sex at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport and later called a news conference to deny that he is gay.
The newspaper acknowledged that its report was not based on definitive evidence but said it also found no evidence to disprove the accounts of the four identified men. It said it reviewed the senator’s travel records, which put him where the sex is alleged to have taken place, and did background checks on those making the allegations.
Craig and members of his staff declined to comment to the newspaper.
But in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press on Sunday, the senator said the newspaper’s report was “completely false” and he accused the paper of careless journalism.
“It is unfortunate that the Idaho Statesman has chosen to continue to lower itself to the standards of what can best be described as tabloid journalism,” Craig said in the statement.
“Despite the fact the Idaho Statesman has decided to pursue its own agenda and print these falsehoods without any facts to back them up, I won’t let this paper’s attempt to malign my name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of Idaho.”
The report is the Statesman’s latest on allegations about Craig’s sexual background since his June arrest in an airport men’s room sex sting operation was reported in late August.
Statesman Editor Vicki Gowler said the newspaper spent several months checking the backgrounds and details of the men’s stories.
“We believe it’s important for you to know what we’ve learned and to hear the men’s own words,” Gowler said.
Two of the identified men and one of the unidentified men told the newspaper they had sex with Craig.
One of the men identified in the report, Mike Jones, 50, described as a former male escort, was the focus of the sex scandal involving Haggard, the disgraced leader of Colorado’s New Life Church.
Jones said Craig paid him $200 for sex in late 2004 or early 2005. The encounter took place at a studio apartment in downtown Denver, Jones said.
Jones told the Statesman that he did not recognize Craig until his arrest made the news. The newspaper reported that Jones went on the record after Craig appeared in a television news report in August to address the arrest and his future in politics.
Jones has written a book about his experience with Haggard and acknowledged to the Statesman that his allegation about Craig might help sales. A message left for Jones by The Associated Press through his publisher Sunday evening was not immediately returned.
Current phone numbers could not be found for the three other men identified in the Statesman’s report.
Amid pressure from top GOP leaders in Washington, Craig announced his intent to resign from the Senate. He later changed his mind, deciding to finish out his term, which expires in January 2009. He is also appealing in Minnesota courts to have his guilty plea overturned.
The undercover police officer who arrested Craig said the senator moved his foot next to the officer’s foot and tapped it in a way that indicated he wanted sex. He also alleged the senator sent a signal by swiping his hand under the divider between men’s room stalls.
Craig has said the officer misconstrued those motions.
Yet...there are a lot of freepers who back in the bathroom incident were hysterically saying that this was all a big media plot to bring down this titan of a senator.
Not sure if they are around today, but, the conclusion is inescapable: Craig is a fag. Or, as Ann Coulter might say, a faggot.
I have not heard any rumors that Mitt Romney was gay.
“I have not heard any rumors that Mitt Romney was gay.”
He reminds me of that Haggard guy - some minister.
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