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New Australian Government Wants to Consider F-22 fighters
Aviation Week and Space Technology ^ | Dec 2, 2007 | Bradley Perrett

Posted on 12/02/2007 8:36:27 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

New Australian Government Wants to Consider F-22s

Dec 2, 2007 By Bradley Perrett

Australia’s new Labor government is likely to join Japan in seeking to overturn the U.S. ban on exporting the F-22 Raptor, although Canberra is far from deciding it wants to buy the Lockheed Martin stealth fighter.

The government of incoming Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who won a landslide Nov. 24 election victory, is showing a commitment to the armed forces at least as strong as its predecessor’s, with a defense policy that calls for greater readiness for the Australian Defense Force (ADF), not cutbacks.

Australian defense analysts expect Labor to back the main procurement decisions of the former Liberal-National government of John Howard, although the new administration plans a policy review and might face a budget shortfall in a few years.

While in opposition, new Defense Minister Joel Fitzgibbon repeatedly called for Australia to consider the F-22 instead of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning, the previous government’s preferred next fighter.

Under project Air 6000, the Royal Australian Air Force will next decade replace its 70-odd F/A-18A and B Hornets and, possibly, the 24 F/A-18F Super Hornets that Canberra ordered this year. Up to 100 combat aircraft are planned.

Though Fitzgibbon hasn’t gone as far as saying Australia should buy the Raptor, in the election campaign he said that Labor would ask Washington to lift the ban on sales so Canberra could reconsider its options.

The Australian Defense Dept. strongly prefers the cheaper and more flexible F-35 over the F-22, whose design emphasizes air combat. The department is likely to present Fitzgibbon with the same advice now that he has become its minister.

The U.S. Congress reaffirmed the ban on F-22 exports as recently as July. Japan, which is keen to buy the aircraft, responded by launching development of its own stealth fighter demonstrator (AW&ST Sept. 3, p. 24).

Rudd plans to pull Australian troops out of Iraq, but only after consultation with the Iraqi government and with the U.S. and Britain. He may decide simply to switch emphasis from Iraq to Afghanistan, following Britain’s lead.

Moreover, there’s no other sign that the new government lacks commitment to Australia’s U.S. alliance. Rudd, a Mandarin-speaking former diplomat, has always voiced unusually strong support for the alliance, and he lists it first among the three pillars that support his defense policy. (The others are active membership of the United Nations and comprehensive engagement with Australia’s neighbors.)

Any changes in procurement policy are most likely to appear in a planned review expected next year.

“The new defense white paper will address the requirements for the ADF to deploy more units at higher readiness levels, deploy at shorter notice [and] sustain operations for longer periods,” according to the official Labor policy statement.

The defense budget has been expanded by 3% a year above inflation since 2001, and Labor says it will stick to that policy at least until 2016.

But Australia is planning significant new capabilities for its armed forces while renewing old ones. Analyst Mark Thomson notes that the budget is more stretched than generally realized, saying “the new government will find that there is not enough money to do all the things the previous government planned to do.”

Thomson, of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, says the budget will buy new capabilities but doesn’t have the funds to sustain them. For example, it will pay for six Boeing Wedge­tail airborne early warning and control aircraft, based on the 737, but there’s no additional money for their running costs.

The same goes for extra NH90 helicopters that Eurocopter will build in Brisbane and a pair of 27,000-ton assault ships to be supplied by Spain’s Navantia.

Thomson expects that the Defense Dept.’s habitual slowness in getting projects to contract might cover the gap. If it doesn’t, he thinks the government, awash with cash amid a strong economy, will probably allocate the extra money.

Labor’s policy largely avoids mentioning specific equipment requirements, but two programs for the Royal Australian Navy are emphasized.

One is that Labor wants to get an early start on preliminary work on replacements for the navy’s six Collins Class submarines, even though none of those boats is due to leave service before 2025. Local construction will be necessary, Labor says, partly because an off-the-shelf design wouldn’t fill future requirements—meaning it wouldn’t be big enough to deliver the necessary range and weapons load.

The new government also describes an order for a fourth air-defense destroyer as a “strong option.” Local contractor ASC has been tapped to build three of the 6,250-ton ships to a design by Navantia. Former Defense Minister Brendan Nelson, now leader of the opposition, says a fourth unit would cost A$1.5 billion ($1.3 billion)—an extraordinarily high figure for a production design, indicating the great premium paid for local development and construction.

The new government doesn’t appear likely to drop support for local industry, however—most notably, shipbuilding.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; australia; f22; raaf
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1 posted on 12/02/2007 8:36:30 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It seems the F-35 would give them a lot more flexibility for their money.


2 posted on 12/02/2007 8:44:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man

Not Australia’s decision to make.

No.


3 posted on 12/02/2007 8:46:39 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
No.

Absolutely agree.

4 posted on 12/02/2007 8:48:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Democrats: "Government is god, and Hillary is its prophet....")
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To: EternalVigilance

yes. Agree. NO MEANS NO.


5 posted on 12/02/2007 8:54:43 PM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Why would the US think about sending F22’s to Austrailia if the new PM is going to pull out his troops?
6 posted on 12/02/2007 9:01:16 PM PST by jonathan-swift2000 (The Good news from Iraq the MSM won't publish.)
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To: jonathan-swift2000

You know what guys? I just said the F-35 appears to be a better choice over the F-22.

I know they are pulling out their troops.

I know it’s not their decision if they get ANY of them.

Sheeeesh. Don’t read any more into what someone writes.


7 posted on 12/02/2007 9:05:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
This could be interesting. I think Australia would be better off if they went with the F-35 due to its lower production cost and its well-roundedness as both a fighter and a ground-attack aircraft.

Plus, if it was required, they could base F-35B's (the VTOL version) off the two new amphibious assault ships that will be joining the Australian fleet soon.

Having the same aircraft stationed on land as they do at sea would help cut down on the replacement parts and mechanic training that they would be required if they had F-35's at sea and F-22's on land.

8 posted on 12/02/2007 9:22:12 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
The current F/A 18 purchase was to replace F111 maritime recon aircraft.

They could take a page from Singapore and buy upgraded Scooters. 404 engine, Lear avionics, GPS nav system. Failing that, a moded out 737 would do nicely as well.

9 posted on 12/02/2007 9:44:09 PM PST by ASOC
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Let's see ... bail out on us regarding Iraq .... then ask for our best equipment.

I'm thinking a big fat NO is appropriate here.

11 posted on 12/02/2007 10:05:22 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

No. Allies yes, first tier world movers, same for Japan, not. Hurts, but there it is.


12 posted on 12/02/2007 10:13:36 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: sukhoi-30mki
1. If we gave Japan the F-15 and Australia the F/A-18, we can give them the F-22.

2. I hope they succeed. If the production line is open, that might give us a window to buy more for the USAF.

3. If they stick to the F-35 they will still rule the sky.

13 posted on 12/02/2007 10:29:13 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The pro-China ear wax eating new PM will be happy to sell top secrets of F-22 Raptor to his Chicom friends. The answer is flat zero.


14 posted on 12/02/2007 11:01:28 PM PST by Wiz
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To: Wiz
While we’re giving away technology, can we give the V-22 Osprey program away and be done with that pinnacle of aircraft design stupidity and proved death trap?
15 posted on 12/03/2007 1:21:28 AM PST by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: ME-262

Goto DefenseTech to read the comments of Osprey related articles, and see what happened to Christian, the administrator.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 2:57:51 AM PST by Wiz
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I can’t wait to see the emissions report from the emissions lab in Ann Arbor on the F-22 since they are going full bore with Kyoto.../Sarcasm off..


17 posted on 12/03/2007 3:02:44 AM PST by taildragger
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To: Stonewall Jackson
(the VTOL version)

(the STOVL version)

18 posted on 12/03/2007 3:46:50 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: ME-262

You suffer from cranial rectumitis.


19 posted on 12/03/2007 3:48:28 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Having just signed the Kyoto Accords, how can the Aussis fly these as they dump tons of CO2 into the stratosphere? (sarcasm)


20 posted on 12/03/2007 6:54:52 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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