I suspect his stance is already about as wide as it can get...
Posted on 12/03/2007 10:49:57 AM PST by jdm
Craig's list of accusers is lengthening.
Two men, including a former male escort, have confirmed to ABC News allegations that they had sexual encounters with Idaho's embattled Sen. Larry Craig.
Mike Jones, 50, told ABC News, Craig paid him $200 for sex during the winter of 2004-2005.
A second man, a 50-year old former Army captain, also told ABC News, that Craig made sexual advances towards him in the men's room of a Republican gathering in Washington state in 1981.
The men were two of eight new people who claimed encounters with Craig in an article published Sunday by the Idaho Statesman newspaper.
Senator Craig released a statement today calling the accusations "completely false." He also renewed his intention to serve out the rest of his term. "I will not let this paper's attempt to malign my name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of Idaho."
Both men who talked to ABC News said they were frustrated with what they saw as the senator's continuing "hypocrisy'' about his sexuality. Craig has a history as a Republican legislator of opposing gay marriage and gay rights.
Jones, the former male escort, also said he was paid to have sex with Rev.Ted Haggard, who first denied, then admitted to the encounter. In Nov. 2006, Haggard resigned as president of the National Evangelical Association.
Four men have identified themselves publicly to the newspaper and claimed to have had sexual encounters with Craig, and four more men have made claims but refused to allow their names to be used.
Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct after he was accused by an undercover police officer of soliciting gay sex in the men's room of Minneapolis-St. Paul airport. After a press conference in which he angrily denied that he was homosexual, he changed his plans to step down from his office. While he has said he won't run for another term, he plans to finish out his current term, which ends in January, 2009.
The newspaper reported that it conducted background checks on five of the men, and found nothing to disprove their claims. The newspaper also said it verified Craig's travel records, where possible.
The Statesman acknowledged that it has not uncovered any definitive evidence of the claims - ''there are no videos, no love letters, no voice messages,'' writes veteran Statesman reporter Dan Popkey. "Like last August,'' referring to news of Craig's detention at the Minnesota airport, "they are he-said, he-said allegations about a man seeking discreet sex from partners whom he counted on to never tell."
Greg Ruth, 50, a photographer, told ABC News he distinctly remembers being showered with attention from then Congressman Craig during a Republican party reception in Couer d'Alene in the fall of 1981, when Ruth was an openly-gay, college Republican from the University of Puget Sound.
"He was paying so much attention to me at the reception, asking me all kinds of questions about U.P.S, and I loved to talk, so I was just asking him all kinds of questions about what it's like to be a congressman,'' Ruth said on Monday. "I remember asking somebody 'where's the bathroom?' and then I said, 'Excuse me, I have to go to the bathroom.'
"So I just went to the urinal, and I don't know, about 30 seconds later he was right there next to me at the urinal. He glanced over the little barricade at my penis.''
Ruth said he remembered being a "little uncomfortable'' at that point, though he was clear that he hadn't been bothered by what he said were "clearly'' sexual advances from the congressman towards him prior to that point.
"I was like, 'get away from me, dude,'' Ruth told ABC News.
Ruth said that Craig "gave me a smile.
"He didn't touch me or anything like that. I don't think he tapped his foot or anything like that,'' he said, giggling.
"While we were washing our hands, he just said, 'If you ever get to Washington, please give me a call.'' Ruth said he was handed a white slip of paper with a phone number on it. He said he discarded the number long ago.
"I wish I would have kept it looking back now,'' he mused. "I'm thinking it would be so cool to have."
Ruth said two longtime college buddies were with him at the time of his alleged encounter with Craig, but had both asked that he not identify them, as they both have "aspirations'' in Washington state Republican politics.
Ruth also provided ABC News a cell phone number for his uncle Gerald King, who confirmed to the Statesman that his nephew had shared the story about Craig with him back in 1981. ABC News was unable to immediately contact King, who told the Statesman he clearly remembers his nephew making the claims at the time.
"I don't care if he's gay,'' Ruth said today of Craig. But, referring to the senator's voting record on gay rights "he's so anti-gay!''
"Do You Follow Politics, Mike?"
Mike Jones, 50, told ABC News that Craig paid $200 for mutual oral sex with the then-Denver-based escort/massage therapist. He said Craig remains distinctive in his memory.
"He's one of the few of my clients that did not totally take off all of his clothes,'' Jones said. He said Craig removed his coat and dress shirt but left his slacks, t-shirt and shoes on before climbing onto a massage table and requesting that Jones be naked. Jones said the pair engaged in mutual oral sex and masturbation.
Jones said he was adept at "guessing'' the professions of his clients, and said he was sure Craig was a politician because "the first thing he asked me when he walked in was 'Mike, do you follow politics?' and when I said I did, he changed the subject right away!"
Jones acknowledged that he contacted the Idaho newspaper to tell his story three months ago, after Craig reneged on a pledge to resign his office. He said he agreed to speak on the record only if other men were willing to come forward and identify themselves as well.
You don't want to go through what I went through - alone - with Haggard,'' Jones said. "Everybody called me a liar,'' he said. "It was a year of hell."
In 2006, Haggard initially denied Jones allegations that the pair had gay sex, but eventually resigned his powerful post as head of Colorado's New Life Church, and acknowledged he was guilty of "sexually immoral conduct."
Jones' credibility has been questioned, since he has published a book about his experience during the Haggard controversy, "I Had To Say Something: The Art of Ted Haggard's Fall." He denies he was motivated by publicity for the book.
"The book came out in June,'' he told ABC News. "If I really wanted to be as publicity hound, I would have come out [with his story] when the [Craig] story was hot. I didn't. The Idaho Statesman had my story for three months. I left it up to them when to publish it, '' he said, adding again that he wanted others to come forward publicly before his tale was published.
Jones said he would not have offered his story had the Senator resigned, as he had said he intended to do after the scandal erupted late last summer.
"Hypocrisy - that's the ultimate word,'' Jones said. "If it weren't for that, you would have never heard my story."
Craig has long and loudly complained that the Idaho Statesman has been on a witch-hunt against him for a long time.
"It is unfortunate that the Idaho Statesman has chosen to continue to lower itself to the standards of what can best be described as tabloid journalism,'' Craig said in a statement released to ABC News by communications director Dan Whiting.
"Like its previous coverage," the statement goes on, "these latest allegations are completely false and have no basis in reality. In fact, the paper itself states that these baseless accusations contain no definitive evidence yet they still decided to print them anyway."
That’s true, which makes it even more mystifying that the MSM doesn’t just leave the issue alone.
More bad news for Larry Widestance. Call Barney. Call Bill. Call Ted. It’s only sex. Blah, Blah...
This is one case where I don’t WANT the MSM to leave him alone. He’s a disgusting traitor to our party by staying in office when he KNOWS he can only do us harm. Selfish SOB. I hope he rots in shame. Whatever the MSM can do to drive him from office is fine with me. And the only reason they’re willing to do it, is because they rightfully suspect that this creep is going to hang in there and continue to drag us all down with him. He’s a scumbag. Every bit as low a scumbag as any of the scumbags on the other side of the aisle.
And I’ll prove it to you: He SAID he would resign if his plea couldn’t be changed and then he took it back. Lying faggot scumbag.
Craig is not homosexual but he is buysexual.
And the point of all this “outing” is...?
Isn’t Craig entitled to be “hypocritical” about such a matter?
Should we likewise demand that alcoholic (or social drinking) legislators oppose limits on alcohol consumption and drunk driving?
Every one has his own particular weakness or pitfall; that shouldn’t undermine his desire that society as a whole inhibit depraved sexuality.
No he is the jerko that should resign and let the Governor replace him with a real conservative that could then run as an incumbent, but that skank is too selfish.
How can one person “confirm” something in a he said he said my word versus theirs case? It just seems to me that the Democratic Party/Media are just trying to get Senator Craig’s seat.
Once again, I ask, where are the Democrat scandals of this type? Of course, if you are a Democrat, “it’s no big deal”.
As much as I don’t like hypocrisy, I don’t like Democrats even more.
I certainly don't. And, I find it odd that ABC is obsessed with this garbage.
Yeah... And, considering the source, you would at least have expected the headline to be written as:
Craig's List Is Lengthening (Not That There's Anything Wrong With That)
“He also renewed his intention to serve out the rest of his term. “I will not let this paper’s attempt to malign my name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of Idaho.”
Translation: “He also renewed his intention to serve out the rest of his term. “I will not let this paper’s attempt to malign my name stop me from kissing Diane Fienstien’s butt and pushing Agjobs and any other open border proposal down the publics throat before they finally kick me outta here.”
The early morning reports on ABC Radio said “there was no evidence to discredit the claims.” Someone makes an unsubstantiated allegation and you need “evidence” to disprove a rumor? Put some ice on it Larry.
Get ready for it....
Most Libs now believe our Achilles heels that will get them into the halls of power in ‘08 are toe-tapping Republicans, and Illegal ALiens...
No but it could mean she is ready to switch parties and start her own "News" web site.
Senator Craig has been a dirty, nasty, boy.
Hey you, on the next thread, pass some tissue.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I suspect his stance is already about as wide as it can get...
Laughing at the headline.
Senator Craig needs to resign.
In my mind, there is very little worse than hypocrisy and lying.
Senator Craig stood up and told the world that he was resigning and then backpedaled and lied and now he’s going to stay.
He’s a liar and a hypocrite.
Clinton was on trial for sexual harassment charges (that he dropped trousers in front of an employee who was brought to a hotel room by 2 police officers and that he demanded that she “kiss it”.
His workplace sexcapades were pertinant to that case to show a pattern of such actions in the workplace.
No one has alleged that Senator Craig solicited co-workers or underlings nor that he used his power as a figure of government to use members of law enforcement to coerrce anyone into sexual favors.
The question isn’t even if Senator Craig had sex in public. It is simply whether he ever had gay sex in private (possibly after a public unspoken solicitation based on arcane hand gestures).
Bill Clinton lied under oath about his workplace sex affairs, paid Monica to also lie for him, and savaged those who told the truth.
Care to show the other similarities than just “they were about sex”?
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