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Joe Horn (Joe Horn Supporters Push back the New Black Panthers)
GLENN BECK PROGRAM ^ | 12/3/7 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 12/03/2007 6:34:45 PM PST by do the dhue

GLENN: Now, in Pasadena, just a suburb outside of Houston, there is a guy named Joe Horn. I've talked about him on the air before and everything I have heard about Joe Horn is that he's a decent human being, that he's a good guy. All of his neighbors say he's like the grandfather of the neighborhood. There is a law in Houston where a guy can protect his own property. You come onto his property; he can shoot you. Well, a friend said, would you watch my house. He was watching the house. Two guys crawl out of a back window. First he sees him crawl in. He calls the cops and they say, they're on their way, they're on their way. Well, the people are inside and he's on the phone saying, okay, guys, where are they? Come on, where are they? "They're on their way, sir." He sees them start getting out of the house and he says, "They've got a bag of stuff from my friend's house. I'm not going to let them get away with it. I've got a gun." And the 911 operator says, "Please, sir, don't do that, don't go out and do it, you'll get yourself killed." And he said, "I'm not going to get killed; I'll kill them." Well, that's exactly what he did. He went out and killed the two. Now, not even sure if Mr. Horn is going to be charged with anything because it appears what he did was legal. I don't think it's necessarily the smart thing to do and I was disturbed, as I told you the first time I heard the 911 call. Do we have that 911 call, Dan, handy? I want to play a little bit of it and then I want to give you the update on what happened over the weekend.

The new Black Panthers came to town in Houston to Joe Horn's neighborhood and they tried to hold a press conference, but some of the good people in Houston didn't take too kindly to that and there is new video out that I'm going to send to Chris Brady that you are probably not going to see on mainstream television because they don't want to show you this stuff unless they make it in a way to where, look at all the white racists coming out against these peaceful peace-loving Black Panthers. They probably haven't found a way to spin it that way yet, but they will.

So I'm going to put the video up on the website here in just a second at GlennBeck.com but first let me refresh your memory on the 911 call with Joe Horn.

(911 tape playing.).

GLENN: There it is. Can you go back to when he says, you hear the shotgun clicking? I've wanted to say this for a while and I always keep forgetting. Bring me back to that and listen to the 911 operator. Go ahead. Play it again.

(911 tape playing).

GLENN: Stop. Does anybody else -- does the guy from 911 like, I'm going outside, I don't know, please, stop. No, don't do that. Whoa. Slow down. I mean, it's not like he's really trying to stop the guy. It's just like, don't go outside. You'd think he would have a little bit more passion there.

All right, let me go to Pat Gray who does mornings on KSEV, our affiliate in Houston, Texas. Pat.

GRAY: Glenn.

GLENN: Pat?

GRAY: Again.

GLENN: How are you?

GRAY: I'm good. How are you?

GLENN: Good. I told you the first day this happened, I asked you and you confirmed. Do you see Joe Horn as a rallying point for the disenfranchised in Texas? My theory or my thesis is America needs to pay attention to Texas because Texas is way ahead of the rest of the country.

GRAY: Yes.

GLENN: And as Texas goes, the rest of the country will go.

GRAY: I think we got a taste of that yesterday.

GLENN: Okay. Tell me about it.

GRAY: Well, Quanell X, who is our local Jesse Jackson, showed up in the neighborhood to --

GLENN: How do you mean that? Hang on just a second. How do you mean he's your local Jesse Jackson?

GRAY: Anytime there is an incident involving a black person, Quanell X is there to start screaming racism. Quanell X is always there to claim that police have tased or shot or did something wrong. Doesn't matter the racial background of the police or whatever happened with the incident. It's always something being done against a black person and their benefit, just like Jesse Jackson is. And he was there with his new black party, Black Panther party members and they are always, at least to my experience, heavily armed to the teeth. I've had the guy in my studio before and he wouldn't come in without his bodyguards, you know, like I'm real threatening. He wouldn't come in without his armed bodyguards. They are always there to intimidate and in fact, sometimes they are carrying shotguns out in the open when they show up at these kinds of events. They weren't --

GLENN: How is that even -- wait a minute. How is that even possible?

GRAY: I don't know.

GLENN: Hold on just a second. Hold on just a second. Are they police officers?

GRAY: No, no.

GLENN: You know, I don't know. Maybe they're sheriffs or something.

GRAY: I just think -- you know, maybe it's something --

GLENN: Hold on. Hold on just a sec. Let me ask Adam because he knows this kind of stuff. Security, if I wanted to hire private security, okay, to carry shotguns out in the open with me everywhere I go, could I get away with that? License, with what kind of license? State -- for what? What kind of a license, though? He said they have to be licensed, licensed security by the State of Texas, they would have to have that if Texas even has that. You should look into that, Pat.

GRAY: I will.

GLENN: Find out what kind of law allows -- you cannot carry weapons open. That is -- I mean, that is a -- you know, that's brandishing a firearm.

GRAY: Well, isn't that why they call it a concealed weapons permit?

GLENN: Yes.

GRAY: You are supposed to conceal it, right?

GLENN: Up in some states like Connecticut, if you even allow the imprint of the gun, if you are carrying a gun and it's, you know, in your back or on your side or on your person or whatever, if you even see the imprint of the gun, if you can see just a little bit of the outline of the gun, you can actually get nailed for brandishing a firearm.

GRAY: Yeah.

GLENN: Because they say just that is threatening. So check the state laws and find out how exactly he gets away with people brandishing shotguns.

GRAY: Yeah, but just to give you a little background on these guys, they've showed up at city council, interrupted city council meetings that have had nothing to do with any sort of racial issue and have demanded reparations for blacks. I mean, this is the stuff that they do all the time. They've showed up as city councilmembers who don't support reparations and protested outside their homes on Sunday afternoons and tried to intimidate. And yesterday they showed up in this neighborhood and tried to intimidate Joe Horn, and they actually announced initially that they were going to do it today because they knew people had jobs and wouldn't be there. And then they changed it to yesterday for whatever reason and so about 300 to 500 right-thinking Americans showed up to support Joe Horn who --

GLENN: Now, this is in his neighborhood? Is this in front of his house?

GRAY: This is in front of his, right in front of his house.

GLENN: Okay, because it -- I see the video and we're going to post this now on GlennBeck.com. It will be right on the front page of GlennBeck.com in a few minutes. But we're posting this video which, it looks like a very nice neighborhood. Let me ask you this question. I have not seen this video anywhere. Is it being shown locally in Houston?

GRAY: No, I got this from listeners who were there. So I haven't seen it anywhere but my listeners sending it to me.

GLENN: Okay. I see video cameras. I see TV cameras there in the video that I have.

GRAY: Yeah.

GLENN: I see video cameras for TV stations but I have not seen this footage on television anywhere.

GRAY: Well, what they showed on TV was Quanell ranting and raving about, you know, this being a racial issue and that he didn't -- he wasn't sure it was a racial issue but now he wouldn't be surprised because of the people who showed up. And from what I've heard from people who were actually there, most of them told me that there was no -- there were no racial slurs, but I got a contrasting point of view from somebody who was there and who said he stood next to Quanell X for about 30 minutes yesterday and he did hear some racial slurs, which is really unfortunate and really ruins the message because the message was mostly about America. If you hear him chanting, it's usually USA or maybe "Go home", you know, to Quanell but they were there to support American rights, and in America and in Texas people, we think, have the right to do what Joe Horn did and we'll find out more about that tomorrow to see whether the grand jury indicts him or not.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 911call; armedcitizen; banglist; blackpanthers; citizenuprising; godblesstexas; horn; legalshooting; pasadena; quannelthetenth; racebaiters; txarmedcitizen
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To: Plains Drifter
I think if more thugs got it, the other thugs would be thinkin’ twice about being a thug.
81 posted on 12/04/2007 6:01:36 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Plains Drifter

Instead, the bimbo types want us to think twice about standing up to the thugs.


82 posted on 12/04/2007 6:02:20 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Plains Drifter

I’m on Joe’s side. I think the guy is destined to become a folk hero.


83 posted on 12/04/2007 8:06:07 PM PST by Lobert
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To: do the dhue

“Instead, the bimbo types want us to think twice about standing up to the thugs.”

Exactly. Your post reminds me of the video of the thug beating up an old man in Detroit, trying to steal the old man’s car (I believe it was Detroit—I could be wrong). There are 3 or 4 guys standing in the background doing absolutely nothing. It was one of the most sickening things I’ve ever seen.

This is what the whole “don’t get involved!” mentality leads to. It makes regular guys into pansies and it gives criminal thugs license to beat the hell out of old men in broad daylight and break into people’s houses without a care in the world.

Luckily, this mentality hasn’t taken over everywhere. I guarantee you, if a thug tried to beat up an old man in a close-knit, small town community in, oh I don’t know, TEXAS, that same thug would suddenly find himself underneath six pairs of boots.


84 posted on 12/04/2007 8:19:18 PM PST by Lobert
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To: stainlessbanner

Ping!
It’s high time this Quanell X Buffoon got his comeuppance!
Some people in the Houston area at least still believe in the right to keep and bear arms and to defend their and their neighbor’s property.


85 posted on 12/04/2007 9:14:29 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: do the dhue
Don’t know anyone who does. Do you?

Hillary did. And likely still does. Both old and new.

86 posted on 12/05/2007 12:14:53 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Global2010
Hmmm I guess being born in East Texas up to the age of 3yrs doesn’t make me official.

Sure it does. And you'll always be welcome back, as long you don't bring any funny "Left Coast" ideas with you.

87 posted on 12/05/2007 12:18:59 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: do the dhue

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou071204_tnt_pasadenaburglars.69d89aae.html


88 posted on 12/05/2007 12:25:16 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Eaker
Houston after Rita.

That Big .50, and the gal wielding it, look awfully familiar. So does TheKid with TheShotgun.

89 posted on 12/05/2007 12:28:26 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: XeniaSt
From the link:

DPS was watching burglars shot by Horn

According to a DPS memo obtained by 11 News, the department was investigating the use of Puerto Rican birth certificates by Colombians seeking to obtain Texas driver’s licenses.

Both Ortiz and Dejesus had applied for licenses. Dejesus listed his country of origin as Puerto Rico, but both men were Colombian.

Apparently, the DPS is investigating hundreds of immigrants who may have used illegal papers to get Texas licenses.

But that’s not all.

A much wider probe has been launched into an organized syndicate of Colombians who are engaged in illegal weapons sales and home break-ins – just like the one Ortiz and Dejesus were involved in last month in Pasadena.


Looks like Mr. Horn did a bigger service to the people of the city of Pasedena, the State of Texas and of the United States, than we first thought. Hmmm... the plot thickens.

90 posted on 12/05/2007 12:34:23 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Looks like Mr. Horn did a bigger service to the people of the city of Pasedena, the State of Texas and of the United States, than we first thought. Hmmm... the plot thickens.

I sent that link to BOR and Glenn Beck show.


91 posted on 12/05/2007 12:42:55 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Lobert

HEAR HEAR!!


92 posted on 12/05/2007 5:37:21 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue

I need help. I can’t seem to find any contact information for the pro-Joe supportors. I would love to have shown my support in-person. If anyone has any information, please publish or contact me directly.


93 posted on 12/05/2007 7:35:39 AM PST by baitfinger (bubbacoast.com)
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To: Eaker

Houston after Rita.

Rita hit Beaumont,Port Arthur Southeast Texas; Houston was spared.
The “Drunks with Guns” photo was from Beaumont; that is for sure


94 posted on 12/05/2007 7:49:34 AM PST by brickdds
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To: wardaddy
It’s s small town here really and comfortable for folks to live privately and unaccosted

I enjoy seeing the celebs around town. The only one I've bothered (so far) was Donna Summer.

"Ahem. Excuse me. Ms. Summer? I just love you. You're the best singer in the world!"

I then blushed and strongly fought the urge to sing to her: "On the ray, dee, oh. Oh, oh, oh, OH! On the ray, dee, oh..."

She was very nice, considering. And beautiful. No make-up. A few cute little freckles accross her nose. Simply and elegantly dressed. A goddess.

95 posted on 12/05/2007 2:13:18 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: brickdds
Houston was spared.

I know. I was there. We prepared anyway.

96 posted on 12/05/2007 4:27:30 PM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: do the dhue
It was announced yesterday that one of the burglars that Horn shot was a convicted illegal alien thief from Colombia, South America.
97 posted on 12/06/2007 12:46:24 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Should have never been here in the first place. I hear one of them was deported once already.

Nice border security /SAC


98 posted on 12/06/2007 7:17:18 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue
When I lived in Colombia I wanted someone to translate my documents into working Spanish.

One of my servants recommended a friend of a friend who knew perfect English.

The man applied for the job.

I later found out the man had been to the USA on several different occasions as an illegal immigrant.

He lived in Los Angeles and worked as a machinist for 13 years the last time he came in illegally.

He enjoyed the good life of acting like a legal American citizen.

The servant told me that he was caught on at least three separate occasions by the immigrations folks,released and told to leave the country voluntarily.

He was finally caught in a drug bust and deported after it was found out he had been for years dealing drugs along with his regular day job.

Needless to say I did not hire the man.

BTW: Colombians are really good people despite the bad name of the drug lords and rebels trying to take down the government.

Colombia has always been a good friend to America and even fought along side of the USA in the Korean War.

99 posted on 12/06/2007 9:45:46 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: basil

I hope you guys down there stick by him!!


100 posted on 12/10/2007 7:57:02 PM PST by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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