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Precursor of the Constitution Goes on Display in Queens
NY Times ^ | December 5, 2007 | GLENN COLLINS

Posted on 12/05/2007 4:38:26 AM PST by Pharmboy


Marilynn K. Yee/The New York Times
An art handler at the Queens Public Library cleaned the display case Tuesday where the Flushing
Remonstrance will be shown.

The Flushing Remonstrance made a rare visit yesterday to the old neighborhood.

...the] Remonstrance...an important early recorded defense of the freedom to worship that has been called the religious Magna Carta of the New World.

Relatively little known, this 1657 appeal by some 30 Flushing farmers for freedom to practice their Quaker religion goes on display...

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According to historians, a group of about 30 freeholders in Flushing, which was then called Vlissingen, drafted and signed a remonstrance, or traditional form of Dutch protest, opposing the policy of Peter Stuyvesant, the provincial director general, that restricted the worship of Quakers because they were not members of the Dutch Reformed Church.

These English nationals, subject to Dutch law, signed the document on Dec. 27, 1657. After they presented it to the colonial government, some of them were arrested (and released a short time later).

“They went to jail for it; they put their money where there mouth was,” Dr. Jackson said.

John Bowne, a Flushing farmer, subsequently invited Quakers to meet in his home — now a museum on Bowne Street that bears his name. For his daring, he was arrested, jailed and banished.

Bowne journeyed to the Netherlands and made successful arguments to the Dutch West India Company, which ultimately freed him and upheld the ideals of the Remonstrance, in a rebuke to the irascible Stuyvesant.

... The Remonstrance exhibited in Flushing is the 1657 record of the original, copied by a notary onto rag paper and included in the colonial-council minutes of New Amsterdam. The original petition has never been found.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: dutch; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; newamsterdam; religiousfreedom; whattacountryusa
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Growing up in NYC, we learned about the Flushing Remonstrance in grade school.

Stuyvesant did not share the feelings of many of his Dutch countrymen when it came to believers who were not of the Dutch Reform persuasion. Quakers were considered similarly to Catholics and Jews by him, but the attitude of the Dutch West India company usually prevailed.

1 posted on 12/05/2007 4:38:28 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; timpad; ...

The Bowne House, 17th Century farmhouse in Flushing, Queens, NY

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2 posted on 12/05/2007 4:41:55 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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To: Pharmboy

Good morning! Thanks for posting, I had not heard of this document before.


3 posted on 12/05/2007 6:21:15 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: knighthawk

A Dutch ping for you, friend...


4 posted on 12/05/2007 6:31:17 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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To: hedgetrimmer; All
You're quite welcome.

Here is the original text of the Remonstrance with the signers below.

5 posted on 12/05/2007 6:48:12 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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Thanks for the ping.

When I was working on a political campaign back in '02, I always pointed out the meetinghouse where the Flushing Remonstrance was written. Unfortunately, it is located near a very dangerous intersection, so exercise caution while in the nabe.

6 posted on 12/05/2007 6:49:55 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks for that, too.


7 posted on 12/05/2007 7:09:59 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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Thanks Pharmboy. This is one of those rare modern history topic pings, and worth a look.

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8 posted on 12/05/2007 8:08:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, November 30, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I had never heard of this before. Thanks many muches for the ping.


9 posted on 12/05/2007 8:17:24 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv
Fascinating. Thanks for the ping! I grew up in another (at the time) primarily Dutch part of Queens called Ridgewood. One of the original street names was Onderdonk Avenue.

I remember as a kid watching the Dutch women come out of their houses every week (Saturday as I recall) and scrub their stoops clean.

10 posted on 12/05/2007 8:18:58 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: Pharmboy; Admin Moderator

I think this thread belongs in News activism/ general news or at least in the editorial section as it pertains to more than just New York History.


11 posted on 12/05/2007 8:39:10 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Clemenza

Thank you much for the ping.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 8:40:00 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Pharmboy

Constitution or Declaration of Independence?


13 posted on 12/05/2007 8:57:56 AM PST by GoLightly
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:’) Not unlike Wall St, which traces the route of the former city wall. Like Grimmy, I’d never heard of this before either, and I’m glad Pharmboy shared this with us.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 9:12:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, November 30, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GoLightly

I imagine the Constitution because of the First Amendment—Freedom of Religion.


15 posted on 12/05/2007 9:56:52 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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To: Pharmboy

Is a photo of the original available?


16 posted on 12/05/2007 9:58:39 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Pharmboy

New to me also Pharm. Thanks


17 posted on 12/05/2007 10:01:55 AM PST by davetex (There are no stupid questions, however there does seem to be an abundance of inquisitive idiots.)
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To: Pharmboy

18 posted on 12/05/2007 10:05:48 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: ctdonath2

Thanks!


19 posted on 12/05/2007 10:09:59 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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To: Pharmboy

Would like a really high-res version, as I like printing such old documents & framing them.
Interesting how several signatures are crossed off...


20 posted on 12/05/2007 10:14:16 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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