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Giant Squid's California Migration Product Of Warming
PRAVDA ^ | 12/04/-7 | AP

Posted on 12/05/2007 7:37:30 PM PST by ricks_place

BALI, Indonesia -- More than 3,000 flying foxes dropped dead, falling from trees in Australia. Giant squid migrated north to commercial fishing grounds off California, gobbling anchovy and hake. Butterflies have gone extinct in the Alps.

While humans debate at U.N. climate change talks in Bali, global warming is already wreaking havoc with nature. Most plants and animals are affected, and the change is occurring too quickly for them to evolve.

"A hell of a lot of species are in big trouble," said Stephen E. Williams, the director of the Centre for Tropical Biodiversity & Climate Change at James Cook University in Australia.

"I don't think there is any doubt we will see a lot of (extinctions)," he said. "But even before a species goes extinct, there are a lot of impacts. Most of the species here in the wet tropics would be reduced to ... 15 percent of their current habitat."

Globally, 30 percent of the Earth's species could disappear if temperatures rise 4.5 degrees Fahrenheit -- and up to 70 percent, if they rise 6.3 degrees Fahrenheit, a U.N. network of scientists reported last month.

It wouldn't be the first time. There have been five major extinctions in the last 520 million years, and four of them have been linked to warmer tropical seas, according to a study published last month in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, a British scientific journal.

The hardest hit will include plants and animals in colder climates or at higher elevations and those with limited ranges or little tolerance for temperature change, said Wendy Foden, a conservation biologist with the World Conservation Union, which catalogs threatened species.

Butterflies that lived at high altitudes in North America and southern France have vanished, and polar bears and penguins are watching their habitat melt away.

The carbon dioxide emissions that are a leading cause of global warming also turn oceans more acidic, killing coral reefs and the microscopic plankton that blue whales and other marine mammals depend on for food.

"In the long run, every species will be affected," Foden said.

A few will benefit, chiefly those that breed quickly, already exist in varied climates and are able to adapt swiftly to changing conditions, scientists said. Think cockroaches, pigeons and weeds.

The spread of a deadly fungus that thrives in warmer conditions has decimated some frog populations in South America, Africa and Europe.

Then there are Australia's flying foxes.

More than 3,500 gray-headed and black flying foxes -- huge bats -- died in 2002 after temperatures rose above 107 degrees Fahrenheit in New South Wales, according to a report published last week in the Royal Society B journal.

The rising temperatures are related to global warming, said the author, Justin Welbergen of the University of Cambridge.

"It got really hot and suddenly started raining foxes from the trees," said Welbergen, who witnessed the die-off. "It was quite gruesome. This colony had between 20,000 and 30,000 animals and about 10 percent of those individuals died."

In Australia's Queensland state, temperatures are projected to rise 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit, an outcome that could drive half the species to extinction in a mountainous stretch of tropical rain forest, Williams said.

Even a 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit increase would reduce by half the habitat of the Thornton Peak nursery frog, golden bowerbird and the spotted-tail quoll, a cat-like mammal.

"There are many species and plants that are restricted to the higher altitude areas," he said. "It doesn't take much of an increase in temperature to push them off the mountain. They can't go anywhere."

As temperatures rise, animals are seeking cooler climes. In a study of more than 1,500 species, University of Texas biologist Camille Parmesan concluded that 40 percent had shifted their ranges, mostly toward the poles.

A dozen bird species have moved about 12 miles north in Britain, and 39 species of butterflies have shifted north by as much as 125 miles in Europe and North America, according to another study that Parmesan took part in.

Millions of Mediterranean jellyfish have turned up off Northern Ireland and Scotland. The Humboldt squid, which can grow up to 7 feet long, has moved up the California coast as ocean waters warmed.

"It's the latest in a long series of bad news for fishermen," said Stanford University's Lou Zeidberg, adding that squid have been found as far north as Alaska in the past five years.

With warmer weather, 60 percent of plant and animal species are migrating, breeding and blooming earlier in the spring, Parmesan said. But not all are, and that could upset relationships between birds and the insects they feed on as well as insects and the flowers they pollinate.

"Frogs, birds and butterflies are responding more strongly to warming winters and springs than are plants," she said. "The concern is that this will cause population declines for both plants and animals."

With many species unable to evolve fast enough to adapt, conservationists are considering the creation of natural corridors to encourage animals to move and even relocating them to cooler places. The latter is controversial.

"You are effectively playing God. You are effectively changing evolution on purpose," Foden said. "If our job as biologist is to conserve species, then certainly we must move them. But if it's to conserve natural evolutionary processes ... then we have to give them corridors and let them do their thing."


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Giant Squid's California Migration

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1 posted on 12/05/2007 7:37:31 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place
Giant squid migrated north to commercial fishing grounds off California

Califronia Calimari.

2 posted on 12/05/2007 7:38:52 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: ricks_place
"You are effectively playing God. You are effectively changing evolution on purpose,"

The blatant hypocrisy in that statement is alarming.
3 posted on 12/05/2007 7:40:05 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: ricks_place
...got that. I'll spread the word.

California Attacked by Giant Squid!
4 posted on 12/05/2007 7:51:13 PM PST by familyop
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To: ricks_place

I wonder if anyone is beginning to notice: Our highest temperature year was 1998. Its been cooling ever since. This winter is starting off colder than it has been for years. The ski lodges here have not had a better start in decades. We’ll soon see a switch back to dire warnings of global cooling.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 7:51:27 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: ricks_place
Giant Squid's California Migration Product Of Warming

Isn't everything?

6 posted on 12/05/2007 7:53:24 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: kinoxi
Squid are evolving!
7 posted on 12/05/2007 7:56:53 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law

~~ AGW™ ping~~


8 posted on 12/05/2007 7:56:53 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: norwaypinesavage

Actually NOAA just redid their calculations not too long ago. It appears that corrupt data had been used, I think by Hanson, a goracolyte. Turns out the warmest year was 1939.


9 posted on 12/05/2007 7:58:57 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: ricks_place
"A hell of a lot of species are in big trouble," said Stephen E. Williams, the director of the Centre for Tropical Biodiversity & Climate Change at James Cook University in Australia.

Didn't take long for them to crawl out of their holes down there.

10 posted on 12/05/2007 8:00:51 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (hillary clinton is vladimir putin in drag.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Actually the 1998 year was a bug in the software already acknowledged by the hacks, lots earlier. The hottest year was my summer in Barbados, hint, hint, wink, wink.
11 posted on 12/05/2007 8:02:46 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: ricks_place

It must be my latent cephalopodist tendencies (on my father’s side) that make me think that humans are more valuable than squid. I am such a bigot. I must need medication to correct this.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 8:03:03 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: ricks_place

Paging Captain Nemo.

13 posted on 12/05/2007 8:03:17 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: ricks_place
"Most plants and animals are affected,..."

I look forward to being able to plant palm trees, maybe even a few grapefruits here in North Texas!

Not EVERYone thinks that a little warming would be a bad idea.
Ask the folks in Iceland and Greenland, for example.

14 posted on 12/05/2007 8:14:20 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Quick, Kowalski, call the Reactor Room and tell them to shoot a charge through the hull ...


15 posted on 12/05/2007 8:14:36 PM PST by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: ricks_place
"It got really hot and suddenly started raining foxes from the trees," said Welbergen, who witnessed the die-off. "It was quite gruesome. This colony had between 20,000 and 30,000 animals and about 10 percent of those individuals died."

If 107 degrees kills foxes, wouldn't all 30,000 of them fallen out of the trees, not just 10 percent?

16 posted on 12/05/2007 8:15:15 PM PST by bubbacluck
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To: ricks_place
I’ve heard of the sky is falling, but who knew it was really squirrels?
17 posted on 12/05/2007 8:16:44 PM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: ricks_place
""Frogs, birds and butterflies are responding more strongly to warming winters and springs than are plants," she said. "

Neither the temp, or the climate's changed significantly. I think these idiots' mothers tossed the wrong thing out with the diapers and saved what they should have tossed.

18 posted on 12/05/2007 8:21:11 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: ricks_place
“Giant Squid’s California Migration Product Of Warming”

I am telling my kids that we need to print off all of these dumb stories and keep a file.
In 20 years no one will believe that people actually fell for this nonsense in our present day

19 posted on 12/05/2007 8:21:13 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: ricks_place

Pravda?.......No izvestia........


20 posted on 12/05/2007 8:26:26 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

It’s called La Nina, the opposite of El Nino. And what we get in the PNW is more precipitation and snow.


21 posted on 12/05/2007 8:30:59 PM PST by CT (Thompson wouldn't convict Clinton, and now I won't vote Fred)
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To: Redbob

Consider that most of the species ever to exist on this planet are now extinct. Think about it. That’s just the way it goes. Global warming my @ss.


22 posted on 12/05/2007 8:32:42 PM PST by pankot
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To: CT

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-1852.html


23 posted on 12/05/2007 8:33:22 PM PST by CT (Thompson wouldn't convict Clinton, and now I won't vote Fred)
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To: ricks_place

I migrated to California to be warmer too.


24 posted on 12/05/2007 8:34:11 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
"Giant Squid's California Migration Product Of Warming"

Not to get picky but wasn't there a recent story of how scientists finally got a picture of an underwater giant squid and it was a big deal because they had only seen dead ones washed up on the beach? I know it was super rare to actually see one, let alone follow its "migration".

25 posted on 12/05/2007 8:36:26 PM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: pcottraux

Giant squids are pullin’ people outta boats and devourin’ ‘em right off the California beaches. Aiiiieeee! Godzilla’s next.


26 posted on 12/05/2007 8:36:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, December 5, 2007 _________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Redbob

Personally, I can’t wait until it’s warm enough to deer hunt without a jacket in Alberta! Embrace global warming ‘cause you sure as hell can’t change it.


27 posted on 12/05/2007 8:37:00 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: ricks_place

When in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout


28 posted on 12/05/2007 8:37:39 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: ricks_place

One ignorant statement after another, cobbled together like the nest of a magpie. These guys aren’t scientists, they are nitwit enthusiasts.


29 posted on 12/05/2007 8:40:59 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: liege
If 107 degrees kills foxes, wouldn't all 30,000 of them fallen out of the trees, not just 10 percent?

Case in point. This is a good thing, not a bad thing. Called "thinning the herd." Mother Nature's way of practising eugenics. Instead of a crew of 30,000 motley bats, she now has a hardier crew of 27,000 heat resistant bats.

30 posted on 12/05/2007 8:45:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ricks_place
There have been five major extinctions in the last 520 million years, and four of them have been linked to warmer tropical seas

Yet the world still thrives.

31 posted on 12/05/2007 8:47:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: hinckley buzzard

32 posted on 12/05/2007 8:47:38 PM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
OUTSIDE VIEW


33 posted on 12/05/2007 8:52:27 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (-Not Afraid of the truth, and the whole truth - Are you?)
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To: CT

and we get less hurricanes.......


34 posted on 12/05/2007 8:52:51 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: ricks_place

These species sound like a bunch of wussies. If a few degrees shift in temperature screws ‘em up... then they deserve to die. I hate wussy species!


35 posted on 12/05/2007 8:54:09 PM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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A blast of hot air at Bali’s climate conference
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Japan climate proposal worries activists
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36 posted on 12/05/2007 10:15:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, December 5, 2007 _________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ricks_place
...encourage animals to move and even relocating them to cooler places.

How do you encourage them to move? Financial incentives? Free moving vans? What if they don't want to move? Will you force them to relocate? Has anyone consulted with the widdle animals?

37 posted on 12/05/2007 11:21:53 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ricks_place

What a bunch of B.S. There has been no temperature change, so all these species (which are mostly BUGS anyway, are dying off for other reasons, no doubt natural ones.

I’m so sick and tired of local weather changes being attributed to “global warming”. THey occur naturaly and always have.

Something has to be done alright, but it isn’t about “global warming”. Something has to be done to stop these kooks from having any influence on governments, and they MUST be turfed out of the UN, or even better, the entire UN must be scrapped. It’s anothing but a corrupt, evil place.


38 posted on 12/06/2007 12:39:41 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ricks_place
They’ll be proven right when summer comes, because during summer it gets hot. /s
39 posted on 12/06/2007 12:44:02 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Offer them jobs picking fruit.


40 posted on 12/06/2007 12:47:05 AM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: ricks_place

PRAVDA?? PRAVDA????

I’ll wait ‘till I hear it from a reliable source..... like Albore giving an interview to the NY Times. On 2nd thought, I might as well trust PRAVDA...... /s


41 posted on 12/06/2007 12:52:29 AM PST by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT - REPEAT")
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To: ricks_place
The only way to stop Global Warming is to launch the UN into the sun and see of they can negotiate with it when they get there.

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42 posted on 12/06/2007 1:35:32 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ricks_place
LOL!

I can deal with the fact that it's squid, but the "Made in China" label absolutely TERRIFIES ME! I have to wonder what it's really made from?

43 posted on 12/06/2007 1:38:11 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ricks_place

Better headline:

Captain Nemo engages giant squid as moonbats fall from trees


44 posted on 12/06/2007 5:44:15 AM PST by sergeantdave (The majority of Michigan voters are that stupid and the condition is incipient and growing.)
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