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House vote on illegal images sweeps in Wi-Fi, Web sites
c|net ^ | 12/5/07 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 12/06/2007 2:39:08 PM PST by LibWhacker

The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a bill saying that anyone offering an open Wi-Fi connection to the public must report illegal images including "obscene" cartoons and drawings--or face fines of up to $300,000.

That broad definition would cover individuals, coffee shops, libraries, hotels, and even some government agencies that provide Wi-Fi. It also sweeps in social-networking sites, domain name registrars, Internet service providers, and e-mail service providers such as Hotmail and Gmail, and it may require that the complete contents of the user's account be retained for subsequent police inspection.

Before the House vote, which was a lopsided 409 to 2, Rep. Nick Lampson (D-Texas) held a press conference on Capitol Hill with John Walsh, the host of America's Most Wanted and Ernie Allen, head of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Allen said the legislation--called the Securing Adolescents From Exploitation-Online Act, or SAFE Act--will "ensure better reporting, investigation, and prosecution of those who use the Internet to distribute images of illegal child pornography."

The SAFE Act represents the latest in Congress' efforts--some of which have raised free speech and privacy concerns--to crack down on sex offenders and Internet predators. One bill introduced a year ago was even broader and would have forced Web sites and blogs to report illegal images. Another would require sex offenders to supply e-mail addresses and instant messaging user names.

Wednesday's vote caught Internet companies by surprise: the Democratic leadership rushed the SAFE Act to the floor under a procedure that's supposed to be reserved for noncontroversial legislation. It was introduced October 10, but has never received even one hearing or committee vote. In addition, the legislation approved this week has changed substantially since the earlier version and was not available for public review.

Not one Democrat opposed the SAFE Act. Two Republicans did: Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning presidential candidate from Texas, and Rep. Paul Broun from Georgia.

This is what the SAFE Act requires: Anyone providing an "electronic communication service" or "remote computing service" to the public who learns about the transmission or storage of information about certain illegal activities or an illegal image must (a) register their name, mailing address, phone number, and fax number with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's "CyberTipline" and (b) "make a report" to the CyberTipline that (c) must include any information about the person or Internet address behind the suspect activity and (d) the illegal images themselves. (By the way, "electronic communications service" and "remote computing service" providers already have some reporting requirements under existing law too.)

The definition of which images qualify as illegal is expansive. It includes obvious child pornography, meaning photographs and videos of children being molested. But it also includes photographs of fully clothed minors in overly "lascivious" poses, and certain obscene visual depictions including a "drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting." (Yes, that covers the subset of anime called hentai).

Someone providing a Wi-Fi connection probably won't have to worry about the SAFE Act's additional requirement of retaining all the suspect's personal files if the illegal images are "commingled or interspersed" with other data. But that retention requirement does concern Internet service providers, which would be in a position to comply. So would e-mail service providers, including both Web-based ones and companies that offer POP or IMAP services.

"USISPA has long supported harmonized reporting of child pornography incidents to the (NCMEC). ISPs report over 30,000 incidents a year, and we work closely with NCMEC and law enforcement on the investigation," Kate Dean, head of the U.S. Internet Service Provider Association, said on Wednesday. "We remain concerned, however, that industry would be required to retain images of child pornography after reporting them to NCMEC. It seems like the better approach would be to require the private sector to turn over illicit images and not retain copies."

Failure to comply with the SAFE Act would result in an initial fine of up to $150,000, and fines of up to $300,000 for subsequent offenses. That's the stick. There's a carrot as well: anyone who does comply is immune from civil lawsuits and criminal prosecutions.

There are two more points worth noting. First, the vote on the SAFE Act seems unusually rushed. It's not entirely clear that the House Democratic leadership really meant this legislation to slap new restrictions on hundreds of thousands of Americans and small businesses who offer public wireless connections. But they'll nevertheless have to abide by the new rules if senators go along with this idea (and it's been a popular one in the Senate).

The second point is that Internet providers already are required by another federal law to report child pornography sightings to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which is in turn charged with forwarding that report to the appropriate police agency. So there's hardly an emergency, which makes the Democrats' rush for a vote more inexplicable than usual.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 110th; aliens; house; immigrantlist; internet; porn; safeact; vote; wifi
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To: Red_Devil 232

Unless they have some kind of logging function turned on or a sniffer, they wouldn’t.

If there are records, it would be at the ISP itself.

Just like a phone, a wireless connection is simply a pipe. It doesn’t remember what you said or who you talked to.


41 posted on 12/06/2007 5:09:04 PM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: djf
Just like a phone, a wireless connection is simply a pipe. It doesn’t remember what you said or who you talked to.

Thanks that is what I thought. So the onus is on the IP not the WiFi provider?

42 posted on 12/06/2007 5:17:10 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I would say so, yes. Because no actual content info is stored on the wi-fi equipment. No pictures, no emails, nada.

Now some providers might have proxy servers built in for caching and/or DNS resolution but my guess would be that for wireless setups like McDonalds or whatever, that’d be very few if any.

A simple 802.11 setup could easily handle the volume for a dozen or so users without even breaking a sweat, so there’s little need for that kind of equipment at a local wifi hotspot.


43 posted on 12/06/2007 5:46:11 PM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: DBrow
I would imagine it is more about making sure free WiFi doesn't become to widespread. Comcast and AT&T would much rather see you pay for it.

Follow the money.

44 posted on 12/06/2007 5:50:45 PM PST by nitzy (globalism and limited government cannot co-exist)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I like your analysis, it looks good. I still dislike it; it seems like the beginnings of a bad law. First they’ll pass the unenforceable law, then “add teeth” later.


45 posted on 12/06/2007 5:57:07 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Kay Ludlow

“The fewer people who can get on line and search out the facts for themselves,”

I’ve always seen Thomas from LOC as a huge threat. It used to take a week or more to get the text of a bill (call the rep, wait for the mail), and usually get it after the bill was voted on.

Now, it takes a second.


46 posted on 12/06/2007 5:59:38 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
true, but if they increase the risk to service providers fewer people will have access to it. Besides, they realize most people can’t understand the “plain english” the bills are written in ;-)
47 posted on 12/06/2007 7:33:07 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Red_Devil 232

You’re in the clear. You’re not “offering” it to “the public”.


48 posted on 12/06/2007 7:54:33 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: LibWhacker

This seems pretty unenforceable. It says “learns”, so businesses who provide these connections could just say they didn’t “learn” of it. If they do somehow catch a person looking at child porn, then they’ll have to report it.


49 posted on 12/06/2007 9:51:59 PM PST by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: jiggyboy
You’re not “offering” it to “the public”.

If it's not locked down the person may, in fact, be considered to be "offering it to the public".

Unfortunately, home routers have no ability to monitor or log data, just connections and DHCP requests, and ANY home router security measure (i.e. no broadcast; WEP; WPA; MAC address filtering) can be spoofed or defeated. In fact, I can do it myself given sufficient time.

That said, this measure shouldn't threaten a home wireless network operator who enables the usual (if ineffective) security measures.

50 posted on 12/06/2007 10:04:54 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: Jeff Chandler
LOL! I don’t think this applies to folks having their bandwidth stolen.

I'm willing to bet it would apply. If you choose to offer that service (by not locking it down) then I would think they could nail you.

51 posted on 12/06/2007 10:17:56 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: JerseyHighlander
This is the reason why John McCain can never be President of this country, he honestly believes every single person on the internet is a prime suspect for child pornography charges

Projection.

52 posted on 12/06/2007 10:19:17 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
“Projection.”

Whoa! You think if we podslurped his notebook, there’d be actionable images there? That would make for interesting news! (I don’t think it’s likely).

53 posted on 12/07/2007 6:07:10 AM PST by DBrow
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To: JerseyHighlander

>>I believe this won’t past Constitutional muster.<<

There is already some preposterously vague language in
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 71 > § 1466A:

“a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting ....an image that is, or appears to be....”

“Appears to be” in whose judgement? Can a cloud be “obscene?” To some people, yes. I don’t understand how that part is not unconstitutionally vague.


54 posted on 12/07/2007 9:57:38 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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