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Colorado Church Gunman `Hated Christians'
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-10-07 | Judith Kohler

Posted on 12/10/2007 2:24:21 PM PST by tcrlaf

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To: Cicero
This is exactly why some governments hassle home-schooled environments. The vote against them. It's about control.

They feel a federally funded diet of indoctrination will make them all happy drones...instead of instigators of needless slaughter.

61 posted on 12/10/2007 2:52:54 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

Which is ironic considering that the majority of these sorts of shootings are committed in public schools by public school students.


62 posted on 12/10/2007 2:54:45 PM PST by dschapin
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To: reagan_fanatic; Salvation
..being pressured to go by your Parents does not guarantee you'll become a genuine Christian, either.

That caused me, along with the legalism, to stay away from the Christian church and its hypocrisy for more than fifteen years. It seemed to me their "rules" meant more to them than the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I wasn't truly converted until I was close to 30. With Jesus in your heart, things will look a lot different. ;)

Prayers up for those who were murdered by this madman.

63 posted on 12/10/2007 2:57:21 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: ari-freedom

While I was joking, one can convert to Judaism and then to Hasidism.


64 posted on 12/10/2007 2:58:03 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: tcrlaf; SunkenCiv

I wonder about his ritalin and/or anti-depressant history. If his doctor father medicated him and homeschooled him there may not be records of psycho drug use/abuse.


65 posted on 12/10/2007 2:58:52 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: dschapin
Hmmm...think they've graduated to public venues.

A busy mall filled with shoppers and a standing-room only religious service.

66 posted on 12/10/2007 2:59:20 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: tcrlaf

Hmmm. Must have been instigated by all of that lefty hate speech against evangelical Christians.

Surely the Dems are rushing to file legislation to protect us ...


67 posted on 12/10/2007 3:01:11 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: tcrlaf
Here's my post from yesterday on Stop The ACLU-
The Golden Compass, gift of the ACLU Ferret

Christians attacked in Colorado


A young, black trenchcoated gunman is suspected in two separate attacks against Christians in Colorado. On this same weekend we're greeted with the holiday season opening of The Golden Compass, the first in a planned three film anti-Christian trifecta presentation of the His Dark Materials fantasy series which author Bill Pullman boasts is intended to 'kill God in the minds of children'. Four days earlier, a despondent young man kills eight at a shopping mall in Omaha before taking his own life.

The connection between these events are obvious, all signs and symptoms of a culture which breeds not 'separatism' but a growing cult of hatred against people of faith. While politicians argue over the definition of 'hate crime', the victims of true intolerance can be tallied both for now and the future-in a youth missionary center, a church parking lot and theater seats everywhere.

68 posted on 12/10/2007 3:02:02 PM PST by Dan Lacey
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To: tcrlaf
I pray the brave woman who saved at least several lives
does not suffer for having to shoot this rabid animal.
69 posted on 12/10/2007 3:02:20 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: tcrlaf

One more sign of the time we are living in.

Matthew 24
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


70 posted on 12/10/2007 3:02:57 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Eva
No! The gunman was a grown man, responsible for his own behaviour. No one is to blame but him.
71 posted on 12/10/2007 3:03:14 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: tcrlaf

One report described Matthew Murray as being “home schooled”. Matthew Murray was 24 years old! Seems like a gratuitous shot against home schoolers.


72 posted on 12/10/2007 3:03:51 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: Eva
"If this report is true, that the gunman’s motivation was nothing more than pure hate for Christians, we can lay this at the feet of the secularists, the ACLU and all the Democrat hate mongers."

Certainly the greater environment that the Children have to live in has a major influence. Anyone that denies that is only looking at this problem from a one dimensional view. There is no way to completely block the Christianophobic rhetoric being splashed around the country in the media and in our schools.

From the other point of view, I know a minister's son who fits the profile of a Christianity reject and his experience was a both a combination of legalism and connections to all things secular. He eventually found more acceptance in the secular world. Even his parents have abandoned him. Sad.

73 posted on 12/10/2007 3:04:08 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: RDTF

As the past leader of my county homeschool association and also one who has been active on the state level, I can tell you that the face of homeschooling is changing. Under no child left behind, our local school system has begun advising parents of at risk and problem students that homeschool might be a “good” option for them.

My godson styruggled with reading and when he tested at low 6th grade levels even though he was in the 9th grade, the school system suggested that maybe he neeeded to homeschool. I advisedd her to tell them they created the problem they needed to solve it.


74 posted on 12/10/2007 3:04:17 PM PST by kalee ( No burka for me...EVER.)
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To: dschapin

A news conference started about four minutes ago at 4 o’clock MST

There is a thread following it and a live link.


75 posted on 12/10/2007 3:04:33 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Phsstpok
Right no muslim skullcaps..../sarc


76 posted on 12/10/2007 3:05:43 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: tcrlaf

Matthew Murray???

Any relationship to the infamous Madelaine Murray
O’Hare - the woman who took prayer out of schools?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madalyn_Murray_O‘Hair


77 posted on 12/10/2007 3:07:21 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: ECM

it doesn’t even matter. this is a bad day for all those who advocate peaceful faith and homeschooling.


78 posted on 12/10/2007 3:08:14 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka! It’s just another ordinary miracle today.)
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To: Always Right

Yep. I’m also wondering what the security girl’s Freeper screen name is.


79 posted on 12/10/2007 3:10:25 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Then there are the church fires, and I recall a fire set at a synagogue.


80 posted on 12/10/2007 3:10:26 PM PST by Dante3
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