I Was on the Waterboard

Self | 12/11/2007 | Mariner

[Mariner]

I am an honorably discharged US Military member that was subject to the Waterboard in SERE school circa 1979-1980.

I'm certain there are other ex military member that would like to join me in testifying to both the US Congress and the US Media that this procedure, while effective, is not torture.

If the majority of the American people knew that this was an act that US service members are subject to, it would disappear off the front pages of every newspaper and news show in the country.

Sign up. State you were waterboarded. Jim Robinson can collect our logins and provide our info to a brave Congress Person or member of the administration.

Let's send the dims and the media running and looking stupid while doing so.

[Mariner]

Come on. Sign up.

[wastedyears]

Present it to Duncan Hunter. He needs all the media attention he can get to help him get elected.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Amen.

[edcoil]

You’re assuming democrats care about facts. They don’t. It is all about grovelling to their anti-american base and making the traditions of this country bad.

[Mariner]

Put me in front of Chris Matthews and Dingy Harry.

[freema]

Ping

[gidget7]

It would be great if it was sent to Hunter, the military is one of his biggest supporters, and he champions ALL their causes! And he won’t back down. Plus he is on the Armed Services Committee. He debated Kiki Dee on BOR tonight on the very subject!

[Dumb_Ox]

May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?

There are some who wouldn't even object to waterboarding if they knew for certain it was torture. However, stunts like this post will certainly help those who need a sense of ambiguity before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Ask kellynla, he seems to be very familiar with all things Marine.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

For the most part, isn’t someone in each SERE class given that experience? My dh went through SERE. While he was not afforded this particular opportunity, he had the pleasure of experiencing some of the others.

[Alright_on_the_LeftCoast]

you have chosen your screen name appropriately.

[SamAdams76]

I wasn’t waterboarded when I was in the Marines but I did get a blanket party. So sign me up as having had a blanket party.

[Mariner]

Are you an anti-American?

You have NO IDEA whether this is a difference. YOU haven't "been there, done that".

Yes, there was a doctor present. There's also a doctore present when an enemy combatant is waterboarded.

[Mariner]

Somewhere between 1 and 3 in each class.

Everyone else watches.

[REDWOOD99]

I think he got the “Aunt Jemima” treatment.

[Brad from Tennessee]

Besides Congress I think you could get somebody like Oliver North or Shaun Hannity to do an hour special on FOX showing that you and others who went through these evasion schools are today healthy and well-adjusted despite being “tortured.”

[Mariner]

Jim, can you help us out?

[edcoil]

What good would an audience of 12 do? maybe Rusbo will do something tomorrow.

[Lancey Howard]

stunts like this post will certainly help those who need a sense of ambiguity before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

Waterboarding has only been used on three terrorists, and has not been used since 2003. Some of our own military special forces and intelligence operatives are subjected to waterboarding as part of their training. The technique, though obviously extremely unpleasant, causes no physical pain and no physical damage - - it is "torture" the way fingernails on a blackboard is torture, or the way the constant blaring of rock music is "torture". Information obtained from the terrorist Abu Zubayda stopped terrorist attacks and saved lives. Yet you refer to the technique as ethically dubious.

You sound like a real buffoon, Bunky.

[Lurker]

before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

Waterboarding these thugs is not 'ethically dubious'. It would be absolutely immoral NOT to waterboard them.

Personally I don't give a rat's ass if we use blowtorches and rusty pliers on 'em.

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