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Shadow Warriors (interview with author of explosive new book)
Front Page Magazine ^ | December 12, 2007 | Jamie Glazof

Posted on 12/12/2007 10:54:18 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

FP: Kenneth Timmerman, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Timmerman: Thanks, Jamie. It’s always a pleasure to appear alongside other founding members of the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy.

FP: My pleasure as well.

What inspired you to write this book?

Timmerman: In the beginning were the leaks. I was curious how highly-classified intelligence information was winding up on the front pages of the NY Times and in other leftist media. Two stories, in particular, caught my attention initially: the leak of the CIA “secret prisons,” and the smearing of Ahmad Chalabi, to which I will return below.

I knew quite a bit about both stories, and knew that the way they were being reported was incredibly selective and politically motivated. I wanted to track them back to the source.

What I discovered was a vast, underground network of government officials, former intelligence officers, members of Congress and their staffs, who were in bed with a complacent, anti-Bush media. They were eager to publish anything that did damage to this president, even if it put the lives of our intelligence officers or of our front-line troops in jeopardy.

FP: So tell us about the underground resistance movement against President Bush.

Timmerman: It certainly comes as no surprise to readers of this page to discover that a segment of the Democrat party never accepted the legitimacy of the 2000 presidential election, and sought in every possible way to delegitimize George W. Bush.

What I discovered, however, was that this political “pay-back” went far beyond the realm of domestic politics, and that legions of “shadow warriors” purposefully burrowed into the bureaucracy with the sole purpose of undermining the president and his policies.

(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beaucracy; bush; clintonholdovers; countdowntocrisis; democratparty; glazov; iraqwar; kennethrtimmerman; kennethtimmerman; shadowgovernment; shadowwarriors; term2; treason
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1 posted on 12/12/2007 10:54:19 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: ExTexasRedhead; SandRat; river rat; SJackson; Alouette; bnelson44; Old Sarge; Salem; neverdem; ...

What this author charges is nothing short of astonishing. If what he says is true, national Democrats are more interested in defeating George W. Bush than protecting the United States from its enemies.


2 posted on 12/12/2007 10:57:01 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If what he says is true, national Democrats are more interested in defeating George W. Bush than protecting the United States from its enemies.

That hasn't been obvious for the last seven years?

3 posted on 12/12/2007 11:01:10 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
national Democrats are more interested in defeating George W. Bush than protecting the United States from its enemies.

Correct.

4 posted on 12/12/2007 11:02:07 AM PST by JennysCool (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the article:

"For the shadow warriors, the failure of the liberation of Iraq was not “collateral damage.” It was the actual goal of their efforts."

Suspicions confirmed?

5 posted on 12/12/2007 11:09:40 AM PST by MizSterious (Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If what he says is true, national Democrats are more interested in defeating George W. Bush than protecting the United States from its enemies.

I am surprised that you seem surprised by this. Democrats are more interested in their own political power and prestige than the welfare or protection of America or its citizens. Their political behavior suggests (and has for decades now) that the worse off the country is doing, the more power the democratic party gets. They almost have to hope for the worst for America to acquire the personal power and prestige they quest. Damn the consequences to the Nation as a whole, until they are in power.

Once they are in power, the pull out the tape and start checking the political opinion winds to see what will make the people happy. A little tape here, a little tape their...announce how great things are and what has been fixed...check the poles...Repeat.

Anything that goes bad in America can be attributed to Bush and republicans in general. Therefore, they have to hope for the worst if they want the best for their careers.

6 posted on 12/12/2007 11:10:05 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (I put my foot in my mouth once. I think I'll just leave it there, lest it happen again.)
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To: Tenacious 1
Their political behavior suggests (and has for decades now) that the worse off the country is doing, the more power the democratic party gets. They almost have to hope for the worst for America to acquire the personal power and prestige they quest. Damn the consequences to the Nation as a whole, until they are in power.

I agree with the context of the discussion, but the democratic party's assumed strategy of "hope/strive for the worst so that we get elected" is at best a flawed premise: the premise being that a majority of voters are actually stupid enough to believe that the democrats can do anything right when it comes to America.

7 posted on 12/12/2007 11:15:09 AM PST by kromike
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To: Clintonfatigued

Ya new around here? That’s been clear for a long time.


8 posted on 12/12/2007 11:15:16 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I am surprised this book has not gotten more attention, even with the usual MSM bias. It tells the inside story of how the CIA shadow warriors got rid of Porter Goss, for one thing. The story of the forged yellowcake memo. There’s lots of stuff in here. Sabotaging the war effort was probably the worse thing they did.


9 posted on 12/12/2007 11:23:43 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Clintonfatigued

[ If what he says is true, national Democrats are more interested in defeating George W. Bush than protecting the United States from its enemies.]

Does this surprize you? This fact has been obvious for at least 6 years.


10 posted on 12/12/2007 11:32:54 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The president failed to clean house and his appointees followed suit, does anyone still think that Colon(spelling need not be corrected) Powell is POTUS material?


11 posted on 12/12/2007 1:02:02 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: kublia khan
"The president failed to clean house and his appointees followed suit, does anyone still think that Colon(spelling need not be corrected) Powell is POTUS material? "

Seems to me like many people of the conservative stripe (here on FR, Hannity, Dick Morris) were proposing the candidacy for president of a certain prominent black female, now in charge of that snakepit at State Dept.

12 posted on 12/12/2007 1:18:40 PM PST by matthew fuller (The destruction of the CIA tapes was indubitably intentional obstruction of treason.)
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To: kublia khan
Porter Goss was Bush's attempt to clean house at CIA. Powell was wrong from the get-go: too many unconservative opinions. The culture at State was also too entrenched for both Powell and Rice.

The same thing used to happen to our schools chancellors here. They would get absorbed by the bureacracy.

Even supposedly conservative Supreme Court Justices get twisted by the pervasive liberal culture in Washington.

I wouldn't blame it on Bush. One man can't fight decades of Gramscied government.

13 posted on 12/12/2007 1:33:43 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Clintonfatigued
Democrats are more interested in defeating George W. Bush than protecting the United States from its enemies.


14 posted on 12/12/2007 1:42:36 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: kublia khan
Colon(spelling need not be corrected) Powell

Minor spelling error: it's Colon Bowell.

And I agree with your premise, nonetheless.

15 posted on 12/12/2007 1:44:59 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Skeet; Interesting Times; Howlin

SITYS


16 posted on 12/12/2007 1:47:56 PM PST by The Shrew (www.ToSetTheRecordStraight.com/www.swiftvets.com/www.wintersoldier.com-The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: MizSterious

Yes,...thank you for the ping....


17 posted on 12/12/2007 1:54:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

A Must Read:
Unholy Alliance :
Radical Islam and the American Left (Hardcover)
by David Horowitz
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Vastly Illuminating, September 25, 2004
Reviewer:
Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews

I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.
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18 posted on 12/12/2007 1:55:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If what he says is true, national Democrats should be speedily tried, convicted and hung for treason.


19 posted on 12/12/2007 2:25:19 PM PST by Noumenon (Liberalism itself is a hate crime)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For read reference later to self.

Thanks.


20 posted on 12/12/2007 2:27:01 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (I put my foot in my mouth once. I think I'll just leave it there, lest it happen again.)
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