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Robot rights
WND ^ | December 12, 2007 | Benjamin Shapiro

Posted on 12/13/2007 7:02:28 AM PST by Dan Evans

Do robots deserve rights? The question is less ridiculous than it sounds. As scientists develop ever more sophisticated robots, we are faced with an ethical dilemma: When does artificial intelligence demand humane treatment?

In the last month, Japanese scientists have unveiled robots capable of serving food and even playing the violin and trumpet. These aren't self-aware robots – many scientists deride the notion of ever creating a robot capable of self-awareness – but self-awareness isn't the sole qualifier for rights. Certain severely brain-damaged human beings and newborns lack general self-awareness, but there is little doubt that they have rights, no matter what "ethicist" Peter Singer says.

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At the most basic level, there is only one element separating human beings from robots: the soul. ...

When the atheist speaks of human rights, therefore, he cannot speak of rights unique to human beings – he must speak of rights that extend to animals or even robots.

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Human beings have responsibilities because they have Godly souls. Robots do not have souls – they can never transcend their programming. Animals do not have souls – they cannot transcend their programming. The sanctity of human life is based on its unique status. Without the soul, the human being is a complex machine, no more sanctified than a tree or a squirrel or a robot.

... The sanctity of human life is based on its unique status. Without the soul, the human being is a complex machine, no more sanctified than a tree or a squirrel or a robot. There can be no high ideals in a soulless world.

Why worry about murder when every human being is as banal as a pocket calculator? Why worry about human rights when humans don't deserve special rights?

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: ai; robots
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I have a suggestion for dealing with this moral dilemma. Instead of wrestling with the metaphysical task of determining whether robots, dogs or dolphins have souls, why don't we look at rights from a different perspective? -- A right is a sanction against another person or entity. For example, the Bill of Rights is a list of prohibitions that the state must not violate. Likewise, instead of, "Those with souls have a right to life" the commandment is "Though shalt not kill".

Farm animals don't have a "right to life" but if we find a young boy torturing a chicken, he is disciplined for it -- not for the sake of the chicken, but for our own good. We simply cannot tolerate people in society who take pleasure in the misery of other living things. Otherwise the boy might direct his murderous tastes to his own kind.

1 posted on 12/13/2007 7:02:29 AM PST by Dan Evans
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In the last month, Japanese scientists have unveiled robots capable of serving food and even playing the violin and trumpet.

My computer can play CDs, and my microwave prepares food. Does that mean they have rights?

What an ass.

2 posted on 12/13/2007 7:04:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Dan Evans

Only if those rights extend to my toaster and iPod.

One electronic is equal to any other.


3 posted on 12/13/2007 7:05:05 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Hillary’s personal electronics demand rights.


4 posted on 12/13/2007 7:05:41 AM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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To: Bender2

ping


5 posted on 12/13/2007 7:05:54 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Dan Evans

Q. When does artificial intelligence demand humane treatment?

A. Never.

Even posing this question opens the curtain on the irrational projection of human identities onto creatures and things which are not human.


6 posted on 12/13/2007 7:05:56 AM PST by BenLurkin
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Scientists are unwilling to define WHEN life begins so as to further justify the selfish act of infanticide that is abortion.

Some also have a god complex and want to believe that they have created LIFE so to treat their creation with RESPECT, they want to have Scientist given RIGHTS for robots.

Only now waiting for them to force the robots to love them “or else”.


7 posted on 12/13/2007 7:06:31 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: Darksheare

I’d think they’d claim sanctuary status under several human rights treaties.


8 posted on 12/13/2007 7:06:56 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ClearCase_guy

You must buy and endure the CDs that your CD player WANTS to play.

PS Your tv is a fan of the View.


9 posted on 12/13/2007 7:08:16 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: Dan Evans

Why don’t we wait until a robot asks us, unprompted, about it?


10 posted on 12/13/2007 7:08:43 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: SampleMan

Thank you alotto Mr. Roboto.


11 posted on 12/13/2007 7:11:00 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: weegee
PS Your tv is a fan of the View.

Well, S.A.R.A.H. is addicted to Jerry Springer. /obscure

12 posted on 12/13/2007 7:16:27 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Probably.


13 posted on 12/13/2007 7:16:35 AM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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To: Dan Evans

Machine rights.
Interesting.


14 posted on 12/13/2007 7:18:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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To: Dan Evans

A robot is just a collection of parts and a program. No program I ever wrote had or deserved rights of any kind. If we’re going to extend rights to a collection of parts, we might as well extend them to a single part. Or a frying pan.


15 posted on 12/13/2007 7:19:45 AM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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Come on, come on - certainly there are some machines that deserve humane treatment. My girlfriend calls me The Love Machine, yet she overworks me and constantly overtaxes and abuses my mechanism; doesn’t that rate some sort of sanction?

Be kind to your fridge and it’ll be kind to you!


16 posted on 12/13/2007 7:22:23 AM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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Right and before you know it they will be telling you

"F*** you @$$h0le"

17 posted on 12/13/2007 7:22:26 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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PETER — People for the ethichal treatement of every robot.’

It also describes in vulgar slang the type of people that would join such a group if it existed.


18 posted on 12/13/2007 7:32:01 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Vaquero

My mouse just squeaked, “’Ere, ‘oo are yoo?”
/ end vague Tolkien reference.


19 posted on 12/13/2007 7:42:40 AM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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To: Dan Evans
The robots will have to demand their rights the same way we did with the Brits.


20 posted on 12/13/2007 7:47:31 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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