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Tancredo video of Romney supporting Amnesty
michelle malkin ^ | 27 Jul 07 | michell malkin

Posted on 12/20/2007 1:41:59 PM PST by Robbin

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To: Robbin

“Why not Duncan or Fred????”

Because Bay Buchanan, a chief Tancredo supporter, is an apostate catholic turned mormon. Mormon hate Huckabee, so the best way to stick to Huckabee is to endorse Romney. Logically, Tancredo’s endorsement should have gone to Thompson who is closest to Tancredo on immigration.

Oh, don’t let the talk about Thompson not being a top tier obscure the action. This was a mormon attack on a Baptist.


61 posted on 12/20/2007 4:00:54 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: tompster76

Michelle is WRONG

I guess she has never looked at this.

http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop1.html


62 posted on 12/20/2007 4:17:23 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: Sola Veritas

“Logically, Tancredo’s endorsement should have gone to Thompson who is closest to Tancredo on immigration.”

This is not delusional. Fred has better record in opposing legal immigration, but as for illegal immigration Romney actually has a record and clearly better than Fred (in actions). Michelle Malkin and Numbers USA agreed. So did Tancredo.

Now Fred has a nice policy, but talk is cheap. Also, last year Thompson stated that illegals should have aspirations of citizenship. I doubt that Tancredo or any other conservative finds this comforting. Also, Romney can win, unlike Paul, Hunter or Thompson.


63 posted on 12/20/2007 4:27:47 PM PST by tompster76 (Amnesty: No aspirations of citizenship to illegals - ever!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So you admit you were untruthful, and made it up.

Just like your hero, Romney. Peas in a pod.


64 posted on 12/20/2007 4:34:28 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: tompster76

See post 62.


65 posted on 12/20/2007 4:49:04 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: tompster76

“Also, Romney can win, unlike Paul, Hunter or Thompson.”

Everyone else on FR seems to relish conspiracy ideas, so why should I be different? :-) So, with that being said, I still think this smells of a Bay Buchanan mormon helping mormon while sticking it to the Baptist.


66 posted on 12/20/2007 4:49:49 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: tompster76

“Also, last year Thompson stated that illegals should have aspirations of citizenship. I doubt that Tancredo or any other conservative finds this comforting.”

Oh, and this Mitt Clip is that much more comforting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bckSLaN49mo


67 posted on 12/20/2007 4:54:06 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Maybe it's because Tancredo sees that Mitt had the right mind-set on immigration from Day One. BEFORE anyone marched in the streets, Mitt denied driver's licenses to illegals, denied tuition breaks to illegals and demanded that everyone learn English. Maybe Tancredo cares about the other GOP platform issues as well, not just immigration. Romney and Tancredo agree on the HLA, FMA, No New Taxes Pledge and Tort Reform as well. Fred does not.

Fred's game has improved though. And Mitt's record isn't perfectly spotless (who's is?).

But I don't get this trashing of Tanc over endorsing Mitt. Maybe he sees Mitt as having the organization and the checkbook needed to stop open-borders Rudi. Maybe Mitt offered him a convention slot on one of the two big nights. Or consideration for a post at DHS or to use his influence for Tanc at Heritage. I'd have no objection. None at all. (Of course, I don't even resent that Mitt made $250M as a filthy capitalist so I obviously have no standards at all.) And Tanc has done his job: he has, more than any other person, held the line on borders/illegals, no matter how much mud got slung at him.

I'm going to remember fondly and wish him well. He has forced the issue of borders/illegals front and center in both parties. And that is the very definition of a successful issues candidacy. This was a rare instance where an issues candidate declared victory and did so accurately, possibly understating his own success. So good for Tom. And Mitt deserves some credit for locking up this endorsement too. It's a lot better than Brownback's lame endorsement of McCain (a nobody endorses Mr. Nasty).

BTW, you Mittsters can have Tom's endorsement (which is very nice) and we Friends Of Ron will take all of his NH organizers and grassroots organization. Fair enough? LOL.
68 posted on 12/20/2007 4:58:27 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: RatsDawg

Tancredo knows about Mitt’s and Fred’s past positions (and especially actions) and after considering them, Tancredo decided to support Mitt. This should be telling (but yeah, I know..Tancredo is just another soft on immigration RINO:)

Talk is cheap so it is best to check actions when in office. Fred does not fare well in this comparison.


69 posted on 12/20/2007 4:58:36 PM PST by tompster76 (Amnesty: No aspirations of citizenship to illegals - ever!)
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To: Sola Veritas
Because Bay Buchanan, a chief Tancredo supporter, is an apostate catholic turned mormon. Mormon hate Huckabee, so the best way to stick to Huckabee is to endorse Romney.

You've charted new depths in Mormon-bashing with this one. And here I thought you guys were out of fresh material.
70 posted on 12/20/2007 5:00:35 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: tompster76

Yeah, we can just go with Mitt and give all the Illegals green cards for being here.

Fred said in an interview with Laura Ingrim that giving Illegals cards to work is a LIBERAL idea and a wrong path for America. With the video that Tancredo posted, Tom seems to think the same thing. But Mitt...the video speaks for itself


71 posted on 12/20/2007 5:29:29 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: Robbin

Sorry world series bet from one civil master to another!
Just fun and games to most of these frauds!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1916469/posts

Esoteric Republican presidential hopeful Tom Tancredo made an offer to a fellow Republican (and it wasn’t newly minted Sox fan Rudy Giuliani):

[Tancredo’s] campaign called ABC News to issue this challenge: The Colorado congressman will drop out of the race if the Rockies lose the World Series — if rival Mitt Romney agrees to pack it in if the Red Sox lose.


72 posted on 12/20/2007 5:36:50 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland; spacekicker
So, none of the journalists asked much? Not a lot of supporters there? It would be a glum turnout just by the nature of the announcement in any case. It seems like a lot of FReeper Tanc supporters feel disillusioned. I sure would be. Romney? Don't get me started. The thing is, Romney isn't a bad guy, he's just the wrong guy. Way, way wrong. He's Big Government Liberalism massaged to be palatable to those afraid of real limited-government principled conservatism. Tanc should know that. All Republicans should recognize that.

I crack up at the term "presser." :^) Like Hugh Hewitt's "graphs" and "ledes." Speaking of ... I see no mention of Tancredo's "presser" on Hewitt's site. Am I misssing something?

73 posted on 12/20/2007 5:53:55 PM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: elizabetty
The nominee will be Rudy, Huck or Romney.

In that case, Republicans lose. Even if they win.

74 posted on 12/20/2007 5:56:44 PM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: Tarpon
Core principles?

Politicians are devoid of such weaknesses and this just goes to prove it.

I figure tancredo was promised something of great value and being an elected official decided it trumped his previous stand.

In other words, he was being a politician.
75 posted on 12/20/2007 5:59:21 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
What's NOT liberal about a guy who totally embraces the concept of government-mandated, administrated health insurance and related fields? This is poison to the ROOT, the CORE, of human privacy, individuality, dignity! WAKE UP!!!

This is what flumoxxes me so much about Romney people. Nobody's saying (or should be saying) that Romney is evil, a bad guy, etc. At least, I'm not and I personally, I wouldn't need to even if I believed it, which I don't. I think Romney is what he is -- a very flexible adroit businessman and razor-sharp business manager who is so guided by those principles that he's unable to grasp political principles. They don't relate -- that's the way it is. If they did, he'd grasp such fine points of government as ... well, the importance of keeping government intrusion and meddling OUT our lives and dynamic free markets (i.e., NOT managed), which means lots and lots of small enterprises. Small business IS the largest employer in the nation.

You'd think Romney would get it because he's a business guy, but alas, the MBA part of him has found success in careful management and control of very large enterprises, so he sees roles in government the same. A lot of executives are fundamentally Liberal in their political beliefs -- "liberal" defined as seeing infinite rolls for government in "helping" Americans thrive.

This is God's truth, and the truth of Liberty: Government suppresses the ability to thrive, especially in free markets.

That's enough to reject Romney. Imagine how much propserity would blossom if people weren't manacled, shackled, and chained down by draconian bureacracy, taxation, legislation, and paperwork just to open a shop and employ a few people! Or perhaps you have no idea -- perhaps Romney doesn't either; perhaps he's not had much experirence with small business. Who knows. But the more government involvment, the less "thriving" of the people.

There's enough substantial, urgent, real reason to reject Romney without resorting to criticizing his religion, and without insulting his supporters by calling them "Liberals." I don't think Romney supporters are Liberals -- I think they're chickens. Just not able to really embrace the moral ethic of small government, and the risks it entails. Bigger is so much safer. In the short run.

76 posted on 12/20/2007 6:32:14 PM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: Finny; CharlesWayneCT
I'll add to my blabby post 76 ... I don't believe Romney really grasps the concept of how freedom works in a Federalist system -- limited government. Not because Romney's a bad guy or anything, but just because he's who he is.

Thompson, on the other hand, writes and speaks in ways that shows he grasps and embraces the ethic. It's his political compass, and it guides him to do right by our moral God-given freedoms: when in doubt, less government. Leave it to the individual. Or at least to the individual states. So I know where he stands on the 2nd amendment, health care, taxes, increased government, environmentalism, education ... nearly every issue. He's not perfect, but he sure looks better than the others to me.

77 posted on 12/20/2007 6:40:26 PM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: Finny

“Thompson, on the other hand, writes and speaks in ways that shows he grasps and embraces the ethic.”

yeah. With CFR he tried to shut down free speech and protect incumbents. He was not just voting for it, he was the key author behind it and he even pushed for more liberal amendments to it. Sometimes in a leadership position you may have to compromise (kind of position Fred never held, though) but this was a senator we are talking about.
CFR alone is good reason to never trust that man. Given his high negatives in polls, it seems that most conservatives agree. CFR and his immigration record tell a lot what kind of person Fred is.

Tancredo, Bork and other real conservatives seem to agree.


78 posted on 12/20/2007 6:54:58 PM PST by tompster76 (Amnesty: No aspirations of citizenship to illegals - ever!)
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To: Diogenesis

You really like to make up stuff, don’t you.

If you can’t own up to the meaning of your own words, why bother saying them?


79 posted on 12/20/2007 7:03:54 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RatsDawg

Obviously, since Tancredo endorsed Romney.


80 posted on 12/20/2007 7:04:36 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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