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Racial Undercurrent Is Seen in Clinton Campaign
Washington Post ^ | December 23, 2007 | Chris Cillizza And Shailagh Murray

Posted on 12/23/2007 7:17:40 AM PST by Zakeet

It has unfolded mostly under the radar. But an important development in the 2008 Democratic battle may be the building backlash among African Americans over comments from associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton that could be construed as jabs at Sen. Barack Obama's race.

These officials, including Clinton aides and prominent surrogates, have raised questions or dropped references about Obama's position on sentencing guidelines for crack vs. powder cocaine offenses; on his handgun control record; and on his admitted use of drugs as a youth. The context was always Obama's "electability." But the Illinois senator's campaign advisers said some African American leaders detect a pattern, and they believe it could erode Clinton's strong base of black support.

Here's a sample of how the issue is playing out [with Black journalists]:

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From Black Star News of New York, Dec. 19:

"So the Clinton campaign decided to use the race card. A senior campaign official, Billy Shaheen, the co-chairman of Hillary Clinton's campaign in New Hampshire, warned voters that Obama might not be the suitable candidate because were he to win the Democratic nomination, those nasty Republicans could bring up the fact that Obama has admitted to using marijuana and cocaine in his youth. Might the Republicans not even ask whether Obama had also been a drug dealer? This was clearly playing to the deep seated stereotype that some white people harbor -- of Blacks as natural born criminals and drug dealers."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; democrat; election; hillary; obama; racism; racistleft

How dare you Blacks call this liberal a Racist


1 posted on 12/23/2007 7:17:41 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

And here I thought she was just an anti-semite.


2 posted on 12/23/2007 7:20:33 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: Zakeet

“...This was clearly playing to the deep seated stereotype that some white people harbor — of Blacks as natural born criminals and drug dealers.”

This is what liberals think. They are the racists.


3 posted on 12/23/2007 7:23:28 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Zakeet

Setting aside all the political baggage these candidates carry I’ve often wondered how the country would really vote if it came down to a white woman vs. a black man.


4 posted on 12/23/2007 7:23:59 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: gate2wire
....of Blacks as natural born criminals and drug dealers...

Is this why Bubba enjoys the mantle of being the "First Black President"? I guess everyone needs goals.

5 posted on 12/23/2007 7:26:09 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: gate2wire
"So the Clinton campaign decided to use the race card

>This is what liberals think. They are the racists.

How dare you call liberal trash or the MSM "racists"?!?


6 posted on 12/23/2007 7:28:49 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: SERKIT

Ha.
Truth be told, to bill’s credit, I don’t believe he has a racist bone in his body. To me, he looks truly comfortable around all people (except maybe the military.)
Mrs. clinton, OTOH, looks like she’d rather be ANYWHERE other than with a group of black people.


7 posted on 12/23/2007 7:31:46 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: mtbopfuyn
>I’ve often wondered how the country would really vote if it came down to a white woman vs. a black man.

I would think that would come down to their politics.

The choice between a liberal trash white Hillary, or the liberal trash black Obama is a choice between rotten garbage and spoiled garbage.

Were they actually at different ends of the political spectrum, then that would be an interesting question.

8 posted on 12/23/2007 7:32:56 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: nuconvert

Here ya go............

http://sonic.net/maledicta/clintons.html


9 posted on 12/23/2007 7:33:19 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: gate2wire

>looks like she’d rather be ANYWHERE other than with a group of black people.

Ever see the difference when she talks to a woman or a man?
I’m being serious. - She is totally relaxed and chatty on say, “the view.” - IOW:

>looks like she’d rather be ANYWHERE other than with a group of men.


10 posted on 12/23/2007 7:36:28 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: nuconvert
And here I thought she was just an anti-semite.

I gotta defend Hillary on this one. She's always been an equal oppurtunity bigot.

11 posted on 12/23/2007 7:42:37 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Zakeet

12 posted on 12/23/2007 7:43:14 AM PST by WKB (FDT= Alabama's song from1982 He's "Close Enough To Perfect For Me")
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To: Zakeet
The Democratic Party exists, in large measure, to control African Americans.

First through slavery, then through terrorism and discrimination, now through social dependency, denial of basic education and urban policies that discourage opportunity. This is why Harold Ford is not Speaker of the U. S. House of Representatives and this is why Barak Husein Obama will not be the Democratic nominee for President.

13 posted on 12/23/2007 7:47:18 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: bill1952

Oh yeah, I have no doubt that she’d much rather be around women.


14 posted on 12/23/2007 7:50:31 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: nuconvert
Anti-semite?

Nah, she hates everybody. Jews, blacks, Christians, non-anti-American Americans...

She currently has the need for all colors, creeds, sexes, and income brackets of useful idiots, until she gets back into real power, and tries to pull what Hugo Chavez tried to pull, and other have successfully pulled off, to the dismay of humanity, and becomes the Dear Great Leader for Life.

15 posted on 12/23/2007 7:50:42 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Zakeet
But the Illinois senator's campaign advisers said some African American leaders detect a pattern, and they believe it could erode Clinton's strong base of black support.

If I ever condescendingly spoke to my black neighbors in a fake Homey accent, like she did, I would have expected something a LOT worse than their vote.

Glad to see someone is figuring it out.

16 posted on 12/23/2007 7:57:50 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Zakeet
an important development in the 2008 Democratic battle may be the building backlash among African Americans over comments from associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton that could be construed as jabs at Sen. Barack Obama's race.

Aside from the fact that you get to enrich yourself by public corruption and get a pass from the MSM, it would suck to be a Democrat. Imagine having to be so touchy-feely & sensitive to your entitled constituents all the time.

17 posted on 12/23/2007 8:06:30 AM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: Zakeet

Atticus Finch: Did you rape Mayella Ewell?
Tom Robinson: I did not, sir.
Atticus Finch: Did you harm her in any way?
Tom Robinson: I did not.


18 posted on 12/23/2007 8:06:51 AM PST by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Zakeet

Racial Undercurrent Is Seen in Clinton Campaign....

just wait until the Clinton Campaign goes after those f’n joo bastards!!!!


20 posted on 12/23/2007 8:12:39 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Ethnic cleansing in San Francisco

by Don Santina

Wednesday, 10 October 2007

San Francisco is pushing out the poor to give the rich their million-dollar views.

Not so long ago, San Francisco was home to about 100,000 Blacks, and the Fillmore district was a thriving Mecca of African American life. Today, Fillmore is gone, wiped out by "Negro Removal" in the guise of "redevelopment," and the city's Black population has shrunk to 40,000 - less than half the Black population of Augusta, Georgia. The last bastion of concentrated Black life, Hunters Point, is slated for ethnic cleansing designed to rob African Americans of not only a spectacular view of the Bay, but of any hope of remaining in the city. The "patron saint" of this racist juggernaut is none other than Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. Alan Goodspeed was my next door neighbor in the Ingleside District on the south side of Ocean Avenue in San Francisco. He was a Black man from Marshall, Texas, who had moved to San Francisco during World War II and worked as a machinist for 25 years in the shipyards of Hunters Point. Within that time, he bought a home and raised a family. When Alan passed away a few years ago, working class Black people had already become an endangered species in San Francisco. According to a 2005 demographic study, there are probably fewer than 40,000 Black people left in the city. Back in the day when Alan and I changed the oil in our cars in adjoining driveways and jawed about whether Muhammad Ali would regain the title, there were almost 100,000 Black people in San Francisco.

So, here in 2007, ethnic cleansing of the Black population in the city "where little cable cars climb halfway to the stars" is more than halfway to completion.

The jobs at the Hunters Point Shipyard By 1974, most the 8,500 jobs at the Shipyard created during World War II were gone, and a decade later a petulant Navy scotched plans to homeport the nuclear-armed USS Missouri when City officials objected to footing the bill with no job guarantees for locals. The shipyard was closed, and the Navy pulled out, leaving 40 years of highly toxic contaminants behind them, and a commitment to clean up their mess some time in the future.

Even as jobs at the shipyard were drying up, the Hunters Point Bayview neighborhood was a majority Black neighborhood, a vibrant community in southeastern San Francisco which was affordable and had spectacular views of San Francisco Bay. The slaughterhouses of "Butchertown" were gone, along with most of the auto wreckers, and although it was underserved and largely ignored by City officialdom - except for the heavy-handed police presence - the neighborhood was hearth and home for thousands of Black Americans.

Gentrification rears its ugly head

Fast forward 20 years from the Navy's retreat. San Francisco's housing dynamic has changed drastically. Home prices and rents have skyrocketed. A studio rents for $1,800 and a small condo fetches $650,000 to $800,000. The City's light industry has disappeared and, while most of the dot commers dot come and dot gone, they were replaced by a new urban class of middle managers, hedge fund hustlers, fashion designers, bio-meds, money changers, paper brokers and techies of all persuasions. Gentrification has metastasized throughout the City, spilling out of the central Victorian neighborhoods into the outlying frontiers, like Hunters Point Bayview. Consequently, the public lands on which the shipyard once stood provided both lucrative opportunities for developers and desirable potential properties for the new yuppie class.

On the part of the shipyard now known as Parcel A, the bulldozers, scrapers and graders of the Lennar Corp. are hard at work, flattening a former hillside for new homes and condos. The original plan approved by the City included affordable rental units in the mix. However, those units have now been scrapped. Lennar reneged on the affordable housing part of the plan, claiming a lack of profitability. Very few, if any, of the local residents will be able to afford the new residences and they will be forced out of this last corner of the City, as the prices go up around them. And, to add injury to insult, the asbestos dust being raised during construction is making the neighbors sick. Dress rehearsal in the Fillmore

To understand what's happening today at Hunters Point, it is necessary to understand what happened in San Francisco's Fillmore District in the 1960s and 1970s. The Fillmore, often called the "Harlem of the West," was a center of Black culture in the decades following World War II. Like Tulsa in the early 1920s, the Fillmore was a flourishing home for thousands of Black people and hundreds of Black-owned markets, auto repair garages, barber shops, salons, restaurants, shoe repair shops, laundromats, night clubs and apparel stores. Among those businesses was the legendary Jimbo's Bop City, which featured performances by jazz immortals like Billie Holiday, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie and John Coltrane.

And then came something called Urban Renewal in the guise of a heavily-cloaked urban real estate operation called the Redevelopment Agency. When the SFRA was finished, the Fillmore was gone. The bulldozers had smashed and leveled block after block after block. The fabulous Fillmore looked like a bombed-out city in an old newsreel. And that's exactly what it was, displaced residents and all. The people who lived in the Fillmore were dispersed to the East Bay cities of Oakland, Richmond and to Hunters Point Bayview. As the Redevelopment Agency smashed homes and businesses, it issued thousands of certificates of preference to the people of the Fillmore. These certificates were documents which gave the displaced businesses and families a promise of preference for renting or buying other redevelopment property within the City and the right to return to the neighborhood from which they'd been evicted.

Of the 883 certificates given to Black-owned businesses, only 39 resulted in other business locations. Of the 4,719 certificates given to families, only 1,099 certificates put families in other homes. Somehow, the Redevelopment Agency lost contact with 3,055 families and 590 businesses which held certificates of preference.

Today, the Fillmore is almost completely gentrified. Much of the neighborhood has been condo-ized and yuppified, replete with foo-foo restaurants and ersatz jazz festivals. However, a pocket of Black families remain in the neighborhood with enough young Black men to be targeted for a gang injunction from the City Attorney.

The gangs of San Francisco

Most observers of Urban America agree that there appears to be a national program to target, arrest and warehouse young Black men into the "criminal justice" - that is, prison industrial complex - system across the United States. Aside from the near genocidal effect of the proactive criminalization of an entire generation, this program also serves as a convenient method for clearing out the soon-to-be-lucrative neighborhoods of the former "inner cities," neighborhoods which will provide potential profit for hungry real estate and investment industries.

The Fillmore, “Harlem of the West,” was bulldozed. Now it’s Hunters Point’s turn.

The City of Saint Francis is no exception to the rule. A recent study found that San Francisco police arrest African-Americans at a higher rate than any other city in California, even as the number of Black people living in the city diminishes. However, it seems that the simple policy of arresting young Black men is not efficient enough to move them out of town. They must also be kept from gathering in their own neighborhoods.

Accordingly - in keeping with the continuing national dismemberment of the Constitution - the City Attorney of San Francisco has sought gang injunctions against a list of African American gangs in the Fillmore known as Eddy Rock, Chopper City and Knockout Posse, along with some "gangs" in the Mission. Last year, the first injunction was granted against the alleged "Oakdale Mob" in Hunters Point Bayview. Under these injunctions, alleged members of the alleged gangs are prohibited from meeting with each other in designated geographic locations, like, uh, their own neighborhoods. Aside from the questionable constitutionality of these injunctions, the fact remains that these injunctions literally drive non-white residents out of their own neighborhoods.

For the local folks who have some idea of what's going on, the irony of these court-ordered gang injunctions is that the most powerful, ruthless and rapacious gang in San Francisco is glaringly absent from the City Attorney's list.

The Downtown Gang (AWDG)

Not surprisingly, the City Attorney's injunction list did not include the Downtown Gang, also known as the AWDG (All White Downtown Gang). These gang members virtually control all public policy in San Francisco, including who will live in the City and who will not.

How does one identify members of the Downtown Gang? Well, for starters, like members of all gangs, the AWDG hang out together: at museum galas, society do's, first nighters at the opera and the symphony, parties in Pacific Heights, winter in Tahoe and so forth. But the best way to ID them is to use the old-fashioned follow-the-money method. Pick a politician, check out the big buck contributors and then see whether the politician's policies benefit private sector profit or the public good. It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to find a political spear carrier for the AWDG and then the AWDG member who owns and supplies the spears.

A textbook example is the current mayor, Gavin Newsom. Newsom, the extremely personable shill for all things rich and white in San Francisco, pulls all the levers and pushes all the buttons that put the policies of the AWDG into motion, which include sweeping out homeless people, lowering business taxes and continuing the privatization of public housing. As a San Francisco supervisor, Newsom made his bones for the AWDG in 2002 by placing his "Care Sen. Dianne Feinstein Not Cash" proposition on the ballot, which would solve the problem of homeless people by slashing monthly welfare payments from $395 to $59 in return for a proposed system of "care." "Care Not Cash" would have flopped without the big buck effort behind it.

The campaign for the "Care Not Cash" proposition, known to homeless advocates as "Neither Care Nor Cash," was funded by a shadowy group called SFSOS, or San Francisco SOS, which was founded by Warren Hellman, heir to the Wells Fargo fortune, Donald Fisher, the sweatshop king of the Gap/ Banana Republic/ Old Navy clothing empire, and . Other original supporters included financial heavy hitters like Charles Schwab, William Hume, Feinstein's husband, the war profiteer, Richard Blum, and socialites like Dede Wilsey. In addition to its outright attack on the homeless, SFSOS also opposed the living wage campaign, affordable housing and tenant protection and supported re-segregation of the public schools system through charterization. SFSOS and the AWDG won big in the ensuing election. Merchants have no country.

Thomas Jefferson noted toward the end of his life that "merchants have no country," in that the merchant's first loyalty is always to profit. He could have just as readily said that the merchants have no political party either. Business loyalty to self interest rather than common interest is rife in modern American politics, where corporations regularly hedge their bets by contributing to opposing candidates. Such was the situation when Supervisor Newsom ran for mayor in 2003.

As Election Day neared, it became apparent that Newsom was barely ahead of his Green Party opponent, Matt Gonzalez, even though he was outspending him by a 10 to 1 margin. The possibility of a Green coming to power in San Francisco so terrified the AWDG that the gang pulled out all of the stops and flew into action, calling in celebrity Democrats like Bill Clinton and Al Gore and coughing up cash. Dianne Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi hit the phones. Republican businessmen rushed to the fore. George Shultz, a Republican flush with new found Bechtel riches from Iraq, opened his wallet, as did the heirs to the Getty oil fortune, who were Newsom's original sponsors. Republicans Charles Schwab and Donald Fisher wrote checks. The Swig and Shorenstein families, real estate developers who had underwritten the activities of local Democrats for years, dialed in their dollars.

And, of course, Newsom won and policies favored by the AWDG continue to flourish during his regime - like the onslaught to quickly privatize the shipyard property, regardless of the health of the residents during construction on this toxic site or the fact that no one in the neighborhood will ever be able to live in the new housing units. In 2006, Lennar Corp. was cited multiple times for failing to monitor and control asbestos dust during the grading phase on Parcel A. Oddly enough, the project was never shut down to correct any non-compliant operations.

Finally, several local African American neighborhood organizations went to City Hall this year to protest this continuing contamination and request that the City red tag the site until safety measures could be enforced. Their request fell upon deaf ears. Meanwhile, the AWDG, not content with securing a financial stranglehold on future development of public lands, continues to target existing public housing for privatization.

Hunters View and the patron saint of privatization The situation at Hunters View, a public housing project in the Hunters Point Bayview neighborhood with a scenic view of the Bay Bridge and the Bay, is a classic case of how politicians, developers and financial interests work together to achieve their respective ends of power and profit at the expense of people. In 1997, a grandmother and five children burned to death in Hunters View because the smoke detectors didn't work. A recent inspection - 10 years later - found that 64 percent of the units still had non-functioning smoke detectors and pockets of sewage bubbling up in and around these rat-infested homes.

Do you think City Hall rushed plumbers, carpenters and electricians out there to fix things up? Go sit in the corner if you answered in the affirmative.

Here's how privatization for profit works: First, don't maintain anything; let everything deteriorate. Second, throw up your hands in dismay of ever being able to repair anything with the meager public funds available. Third, call in private developers and their bankers to "help out." Fourth, evict the residents because by now everything has to be torn down. And fifth, build units to buy, not to rent, that the evicted residents can't afford.

When the federal government purposely abandoned the "inner cities" of Urban America almost 30 years ago, the vacuum left in its wake created vast and lucrative investment opportunities for the exploitation of public property. Do you think that the snail's pace rebuild of the infrastructure and return of the displaced residents of New Orleans is accidental? Go sit in the corner!

In San Francisco, the patron saint of privatization is Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, known to some locals as "Nancy Privatisi" for her landmark work in taking the 1,200 acres of public land in the Presidio and placing it into private hands. Even the staid San Francisco Chronicle couldn't avoid noting that the Presidio was "the first privatized national park in the United States." How about a little Q and A? Who was one of the founding directors of the Presidio Trust? Donald Fisher. Who appointed him? Bill Clinton. Who is a major contributor to Pelosi's campaign, while at the same time being a charter member of the SFSOS, the AWDG and the Republican Party? Donald Fisher. Who's going to construct a museum to himself - excuse me - for his art collection, in the Presidio? Donald Fisher. Who supports it? Nancy Pelosi. There's also a plan to put a Walt Disney museum in the Presidio, which would be appropriate because Nancy's husband, Paul, owns a bit of Disney. A local union organizer suggested that it would be fitting that a third museum be erected between the first two museums - a museum to sweatshop workers.

Getting back to Hunters View, Newsom has been seen cruising the neighborhood with developers from the AWDG. Hunters View is a perfect candidate for privatization: It has a view that yuppies will pay big bucks for, and it's sufficiently destabilized to warrant complete leveling. Hunters Point resident Apollonia Jordan, in a recent article in the Black-owned San Francisco Bay View newspaper, wrote: "I know you have noticed the groups of clean, pressed suited white men who jump out of these brand new SUVs with Mayor Gavin Newsom looking around your housing project. They smile and sometimes even talk to the ‘poor' children playing outside."

In response to a Chronicle series about the dire living situation at Hunters View, Pelosi, whose nephew Laurence has worked for both Lennar and Newsom and is Newsom's first cousin, announced that the Democrats had not only increased funding for public housing, but that their $1 million allotment for Hunters View would create "one-for-one replacement of 267 public housing units" with "new affordable rental units" and "market rate homes." Sounds familiar. Sounds like Lennar's original plan for the shipyard. Sounds like the Fillmore.

21 posted on 12/23/2007 8:13:31 AM PST by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
First through slavery, then through terrorism and discrimination, now through social dependency, denial of basic education and urban policies that discourage opportunity.

I've never seen this stated so clearly and succinctly. This needs to be repeated daily until everyone understands the democrats soul.

22 posted on 12/23/2007 8:28:15 AM PST by joshhiggins
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To: mtbopfuyn

And just how do we go about “setting aside all the political baggage” when that is really the single defining factor in how most Americans vote? Don’t buy into the liberal crappola abour how rascist white Americans are. It just ain’t so. If it were, none of us would be watching professional sports, none of us would be going to movies with black stars, none of us would be working side by side with black cohorts (and working under black bosses), and none of us woule be voting for black candidates — as happens all the time.

If anyone is basing their vote on color, it isn’t white America. And, frankly, I am deeply offended by those who suggest such a thing.


23 posted on 12/23/2007 8:41:30 AM PST by lapster
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To: Zakeet

How dare you Blacks call this liberal a Racist!

Forty percent of Americans say they would vote to keep Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton from winning the presidency, more than twice the total for their No. 2 "anti-" pick, former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani.

In a new Fox 5-The Washington Times-Rasmussen Reports survey, 64 percent of Republicans, 42 percent of third-party or independent voters, and 17 percent of Democrats said the candidate they most want to keep from the White House is Mrs. Clinton.

"Hillary Clinton is better known than any [other] presidential candidate on either side. She has a lot of people who love her and a lot of people who hate her," said Scott Rasmussen, who conducted the poll.

While Mrs. Clinton performed poorly among most demographics, younger male voters were particularly cold. More than half of the adult men younger than 40 said they would use their vote to keep Mrs. Clinton from returning to the White House.

Afterwards, Big Brown delivers the Sad Hill in her big brown and ugly pant suit to light up a meeting for her in Gilford, NH!

Then the Hill lights up the Gilford, NH Meeting with her charm and energy!

Hopefully the scenes below will happen early next year.


24 posted on 12/23/2007 8:44:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Zakeet
So it seems that in this election the Dems are going to be playing that popular Liberal theme song Dueling Victims

The question is, will it be played more effectively with a banjo or a blues harp?

Now DIVE for the bottom rung of the ladder... GO!

25 posted on 12/23/2007 9:01:57 AM PST by Carbonado
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To: Zakeet
Why does this article remind me of a Limbaugh monologue?

ML/NJ

26 posted on 12/23/2007 9:07:37 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Grampa Dave
Deer in the headlight look?

Huma gots it too.


27 posted on 12/23/2007 9:25:26 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Zakeet

These are issues, not personal attacks. They have nothing to do with Obama’s “race” (by the way, his mom’s from Europe). Obama is not a sacred cow for the fact that his dad came from Africa.


28 posted on 12/23/2007 9:38:57 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Zakeet
Why, I'm shocked, shocked, I tell ya!
29 posted on 12/23/2007 9:46:21 AM PST by TheRealDBear
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To: Grampa Dave

Dave, you channeling MiaT today or what? :)


30 posted on 12/23/2007 9:55:32 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Zakeet
Anyone who has ever dealt on a long term basis with die-hard liberals knows that the only thing they have in common, other than there leftist beliefs and goals, is there deep hatred for and/or visceral racism towards people they perceive as not of there own group.I firmly believe thats the reason they accuse all conservatives of similar attitudes,its such an integral part of there personalities they can`t see anyone else feeling differently.I`ve lived around and worked with black, brown, and now white lefties my whole life, and in my opinion there is no real difference between the vast majority of them on that point.
31 posted on 12/23/2007 2:26:37 PM PST by nomad
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To: gate2wire

You nailed it.Bill,for all his many faults,had that comfort level with blacks that is rare for whites in this day and age.
Hillary,on the other hand,feels like a fish out of water and it shows in her straining efforts to be”soulful”in front of black audiences with those fake intonations.She can never be a white”soul sister”no matter how hard she tries.


32 posted on 12/23/2007 3:39:38 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: nyyankeefan
"Racial Undercurrent Is Seen in Clinton Campaign.... just wait until the Clinton Campaign goes after those f’n joo bastards!!!!"

Hillary could say that on camera and still get 70% of the Jewish vote. And she'll still collect 89-92% of the black vote, no matter what.

33 posted on 12/23/2007 6:28:19 PM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

just out of curiosity-is harold ford still a congressman?i thought he gave up his rep seat to run for the senate


34 posted on 12/24/2007 8:42:29 AM PST by steamroller
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To: Zakeet

Help Stop Osama Obama! We don’t need another Hussein!


35 posted on 12/26/2007 9:43:36 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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