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TOP SECRET IRAQI FILES FOUND: SADDAM REALLY DID HAVE WMD
LoftusReport.com ^ | October 25, 2007 | John Loftus.

Posted on 12/24/2007 5:24:12 PM PST by roaddog727

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To: roaddog727
It is still too early for a conclusive assessment, and many more documents will need to be analyzed, but it appears that Saddam may have been Al Qaeda's long-term secret partner in launching successful terrorist attacks against the western countries. Saddam's secret files contain direct references to aiding anthrax attacks in the United States, planning the "Blessed July" bombings in London, coordinating the assault on the National Guard Headquarters in Saudi Arabia, and committing numerous attacks against Israel.

If it is true, as a cursory initial reading of these files suggest, that Saddam was the secret partner of Usama Bin Laden, then the history of terrorism will have to be rewritten.

Another nugget in the closing paragraphs that exposes another potential liberal lie.

201 posted on 12/25/2007 5:37:28 PM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: roaddog727
No way Saddam would have buried the WMDs (or Mig fighters) in the deserts of Iraq..../sarc

Saddam talked of WMD attack in U.S.

‘I found Saddam’s WMD bunkers’

UN Admits Saddam Had WMD

Saddam's WMD Moved to Syria, An Israeli Says

Saddam general: WMDs in Syria

Russia Moved Saddam's WMD

Syria Hides Saddam WMD

Saddam's WMD have been found

Why is our intelligence community holding back?

202 posted on 12/25/2007 5:47:33 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster; All

Good post and good links.


203 posted on 12/25/2007 5:49:18 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: El Gato

Ok. You’re about the 4th or 5th person to tell me this.

Therefore I find I am publicly humbled and humiliated by my seeming lack of common sense and diminished capacity to see the obvious.

I am not worthy to be called a ‘thinking’ conservative..

:0(

(sigh)

Ok....all better now.... :0)


204 posted on 12/25/2007 5:56:34 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: roaddog727

The existence of the documents is indisputable but Bush will not publicize them and MSM firmly ignores them because they do not suit MSM’s constructed reality. Even Fox is uninterested. More and more Fox is only nominally “fair and balanced.”


205 posted on 12/25/2007 7:02:39 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Merry Christmas to you too, MU.


206 posted on 12/25/2007 9:21:48 PM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is the Jane Fonda of the year.)
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To: Rockitz
No evidence, but enough to make you go "hmmm".
207 posted on 12/26/2007 12:55:24 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: trooprally

BTT


208 posted on 12/26/2007 4:47:29 AM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: kaehurowing
On June 9th [2004], the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"

Source

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."

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"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."

In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."

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"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).

Source

"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."

Source

"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."

Source

See also: What Charles Duelfer Missed

209 posted on 12/26/2007 6:44:15 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: elhombrelibre; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; ...

SIDEBAR: Have a quick, shocked read about Issa, the name for Jesus in Islam and how He is perceived.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2007/12/issa-moslem-jesus-anything-like-yours.html


210 posted on 12/26/2007 12:06:00 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

That’s just one interpretation.


211 posted on 12/26/2007 12:17:31 PM PST by bvw
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To: FARS

Thanks for the info, FRiend.........


212 posted on 12/26/2007 12:18:06 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Mark
But if Bush did not lie, then the reverse is true— the demoncrats lie about there not being any wmd.

Nope. Doesn't work that way. The Democrats told the truth as they knew it at the time... /sarc

213 posted on 12/26/2007 12:52:01 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: roaddog727
Don't expect this or anything else to silence the "Bush lied, people died" chorus. The last thing these people are interested in is truth. It conflicts with their agenda.
214 posted on 12/26/2007 1:48:59 PM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: roaddog727

HUGE Bump!


215 posted on 12/26/2007 2:36:53 PM PST by sofaman ("This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.")
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To: Savage Beast
“Don’t expect this or anything else to silence the “Bush lied, people died” chorus. The last thing these people are interested in is truth. It conflicts with their agenda.”

True - ‘cuz the “facts don’t matter” As quoted by a prominent DUmmie

216 posted on 12/26/2007 3:08:24 PM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: FARS

Very very good info thanks again.


217 posted on 12/26/2007 3:34:15 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Aliska

“Thanks, that was the first country I thought of. Wonder what’s going on there with all those caves. I don’t know much about Syria, they took the daughter of Saddam (I think) in. It is possible some are there anyway and the leader wouldn’t necessary have to know?”

Anytime.

They’re hiding a lot of stuff in those caves. And yeah they did grant amnesty to saddam’s daughter.

assad knows everything about what’s going on within his borders.

And even weapons and jihadi’s that are “just passin’ through” don’t do so without his knowledge or permission.


218 posted on 12/26/2007 7:09:09 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (ron paul has lied to YOU)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Yes, I always thought that picture sure looked like saddam was taking credit for 9/11, ‘course that gubmint commission said that wasn’t true and nobody was to blame. Nuthin’ to see here, move along!


219 posted on 12/26/2007 7:34:11 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


220 posted on 12/26/2007 9:45:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All

Another SIDEBAR - sarcastic post partly triggered by the death of lions in Iraqi zoo after we went in.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2007/12/tiger-attack-in-frisco-lion-attack-in.html


221 posted on 12/26/2007 10:32:31 PM PST by FARS
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To: Eagles6; jveritas
I asked jveritas to translate the text:

“Mr. President The leader the Moujahed Saddam Hussein, God protects and shepherd him”

The emblem says: “Allah protects Iraq and Saddam”

As jveritas noted "a picture is stronger than words".

Note also that these two things: 1) As far as I remember (I haven't looked for the reference) this painting was found in a campus connected to an air force school. 2) In one of the documents jveritas translated the authorities were looking for pilot "mujaheedins". The document was pre-911, and it was considered by those who know such things that it was directed against Israel. But are we really sure? No real evidence, but enough to make you wonder.

222 posted on 12/27/2007 12:47:56 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy; Eagles6; jveritas

That picture does seem a bit too convient to discount as bluster.


223 posted on 12/27/2007 2:18:08 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: FARS

Thank you FARS.


224 posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:59 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: FARS

Ask the families of 50,000 nerve-gassed Kurds if they think Saddam had WMDs.


225 posted on 12/27/2007 6:59:56 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: roaddog727; All
Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.
226 posted on 12/27/2007 12:56:50 PM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: FARS

Bttt


227 posted on 12/27/2007 3:30:16 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: elhombrelibre
I tried to reply but FR went down for a bit the other day. Any fair minded individual presented with the vast amount of info available would have to conclude Iraq under the Saddam regime was determined to continue many of the known wmd programs.
It is sort of like beating upon a dead horse in respect of trying to somehow re-prove Saddam's intentions.
The horse is dead. Saddam and his regime are simply guilty as charged.
As to why this administration has been so willy nilly in protecting it's stance, regardless of how badly certain elements within the intel and state institutions, during this twenty year time frame have (past/present tense), been able to throw curve balls, I guess the jury is still out.
Perhaps in the end, GWB was adviced not to get into to many cat fights with the left and the L/MSM. He has/had stated his reasons (many, including UN resolutions), to justify what he decided to do with the Butcher and his regime.
If the political climate had not been so twisted and cagey over the past eight years, none of this would even be an issue. So much of this stuff has been made public over a period of time for anyone with any ambition (private level, or official) to understand Saddam was a very dangerous man in many respects and did represent a distinct threat to the regions stability as well as to a high potential to aid terrorist groups in carrying out diabolical mass killings against many western states.
228 posted on 12/27/2007 4:35:21 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


229 posted on 12/27/2007 9:46:23 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: djreece

marking


230 posted on 12/27/2007 9:50:25 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20)
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To: roaddog727
Outstanding read. I waited until today to read the pdf. It pretty much covers the whole issue. I wonder why President Bush doesn’t go through this in public. He certainly has nothing to lose or fear. Perhaps the embarrassment to various incompetent officials like Negroponte would reflect badly on him.

This pretty much closes up the WMD issue for Iraq as far as I am concerned. The outcome is pretty much what I expected and what has been rumored since 2003—the WMD’s went to Syria.

The one remaining loose end is what happened to the contents of the underground storage facility under the Euphrates.

231 posted on 12/28/2007 10:15:02 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Thanks.

“The one remaining loose end is what happened to the contents of the underground storage facility under the Euphrates.”

That and did the Israelis obliterate all the stuff that went up north in Syria.


232 posted on 12/28/2007 11:16:23 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: roaddog727

self ping for after self feeding


233 posted on 12/28/2007 11:18:41 AM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills namedo us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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Self ping for later reading.


234 posted on 12/29/2007 6:45:44 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: roaddog727

Hm.


235 posted on 12/31/2007 11:32:45 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: roaddog727

The propaganda machine of the left has totally convinced the masses that there were NO WMDs in Iraq. Sorry to say that it won’t matter what proof to the contrary shows up. It will be buried by the media and laughed at by the imbeciles on the left.reality matters little these days and we all know it .


236 posted on 12/31/2007 11:41:50 PM PST by sonic109
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To: sonic109

“It will be buried by the media and laughed at by the imbeciles on the left.”

Perhaps. But it will be recoded in history and there will be some of us who knw the real truth.


237 posted on 01/01/2008 8:44:24 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

There are a lot of idiot newbie political people who Also believe the lie that the liberal media has told the nation - that ‘Bush Lied and People Died.’ These people who just started getting involved in politics - some of them Tea Party people - are so full of hatred toward Bush - it is disgusting that they believe the lies of the Left! And they will not listen to even this new news.


238 posted on 10/25/2010 5:01:18 AM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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