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Candidates Keep Their Distance From Bush, aka 'Mr. Palestine'
Jewish Exponent ^ | December 27, 2007 | Douglas M. Bloomfield

Posted on 12/27/2007 1:37:55 PM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 12/27/2007 1:37:58 PM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel, WOT

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In brief, Republican candidates won't support GWB because he's handled the issue like a Democrat, and understandably Democrats won't give him credit for handling it the way they would.

The Mr. Palestine thread.

2 posted on 12/27/2007 1:41:01 PM PST by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: SJackson
Mr. Palestine?! I'd rather be Mr. Sparkle.


3 posted on 12/27/2007 1:49:55 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: SJackson

You might be interested in the accolades and applause given Pres. Bush in this discussion.
It runs about an hour and 1/2, but it’s excellent and well worth the time.

American Foreign Policy in the Middle East - Dangerous Times in a Dangerous Neighborhood

Moderator: Michael Medved

Panelists: John Podhoretz, Dennis Prager and Mona Charen

http://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/article/83


4 posted on 12/27/2007 1:57:12 PM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: mnehrling

Come on over here and explain why Ron Paul, who will allow Israel to fight for a free Israeli nation is a nutcase and Bush who wants a divided Israel/Palestinian state is your hero.


5 posted on 12/27/2007 2:19:50 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: nuconvert

ping


6 posted on 12/27/2007 2:20:23 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: nuconvert

All the people in the discussion you post are Bush sycophants and in the case of Israel v. Palestine, Bush is wrong.


7 posted on 12/27/2007 2:25:18 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: B4Ranch
Ron Paul is a nut for being completely unconcerned with nuclear proliferation in the Islamic world, and for thinking that the Cold War deterrence doctrine of mutually assured destruction ("MAD") would work with people (including terrorist orgs unaffiliated with any nation) who believe that killing "infidels" secures them an eternal date with 72 virgins in the afterlife.

Islamists shouldn't be expected to act like the (comparatively rational) Soviets.

8 posted on 12/27/2007 2:36:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SJackson

How can Bush have such good foreign policy against the terrorists, yet switch to appeasement just for Palestine?


9 posted on 12/27/2007 2:43:35 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: SJackson

Most of the candidates are of the same old Arabist/western European guard, too. ...ethnicities and oil instead of right.


10 posted on 12/27/2007 2:46:41 PM PST by familyop
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“his vow to quickly move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem”

Still waiting on his fulfilling that promise. It slip his mind when he was sending millions of taxpayer dollars to the Fatah nutjobs?


11 posted on 12/27/2007 2:59:24 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Mr. Mojo

How about answering why Bush is still the hero when wants a divided Israel/Palestinian state and not a free Israeli nation.

I think what you are saying is, “Ron Paul is a nut for being completely unconcerned with nuclear proliferation in the Middle Eastern Islamic world, and for thinking that the Israeli’s should have to fight there own wars.”


12 posted on 12/27/2007 2:59:37 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Good point. At least the Soviets weren’t entirely alien, nor entirely insane.


13 posted on 12/27/2007 3:07:54 PM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: B4Ranch
How about answering why Bush is still the hero...

To whom? Not to me. I disagree with his naive view that rewarding the "Palestinians" with a state in Israel's backyard despite the former's unwillingness to abide by even the most elementary conditions of his so-called "roadmap to peace" will yield peace in the region.

But as I mentioned in the above post I heartily disagree with Ron Paul's prescription for the region as well. Allowing nuke proliferation in the Islamic world isn't just a concern to Israel, it's a huge national security concern for us as well. RP's "hands off" approach to those maniacs would spell big trouble. ...and even surpasses Bush in the naive dept.

Stopping Iran from getting nukes isn't "fighting Israel's war," it's fighting our own war.

14 posted on 12/27/2007 3:11:25 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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I don’t quite know what to make of the last sentence in the posted article re “... all should be praying [Bush] succeeds.” That’s because a Pali state and Israeli-Palestinian “peace” are incompatible with each other, barring the appearance of a Ghandi-type Palestinian leader, the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Anyone representing Fatah or Hamas is certainly not a reasonable nor reliable “peace partner.”


15 posted on 12/27/2007 3:27:31 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Mr. Mojo

Do you really think Iran is going to attack the US? That would be instant suicide and they know it. They aren’t equipped like Russia or China, you know.


16 posted on 12/27/2007 3:29:45 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: justiceseeker93

Anyone thinking there will be a Israeli-Palestinian “peace” as long as there is an Israel is a total nutjob.


17 posted on 12/27/2007 3:32:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: SJackson; Mr. Mojo; All
...Ann Coulter, Pat Buchanan, and their ilk.

What's with this gratuitous slap at Ann Coulter by lumping her with Pat Buchanan?

I think it's fair to say that Coulter is a Christian Zionist and Buchanan most definitely is not.

18 posted on 12/27/2007 3:34:34 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: B4Ranch
Again, expecting Islamist fanatics to behave rationally (like our Cold War foes) isn't too wise. Russians aren't suicidal -- Islamists often are.

But do I think Iran is likely to attack us directly? Probably not. However, you're neglecting to consider another possibility -- Iran using the various terrorist orgs it sponsors to do its dirty work. They could smuggle a nuke into one of our harbors. ...or across out porous borders (no thanks to Bush).

Nukes floating around the Islamic world is a completely unacceptable state of affairs to all rational people. It's dangerous enough that Pakistan has a nuke arsenal. ...and that alone could come back to haunt us. Toss Iran and the rest of the big Islamic players in to the nuclear mix and the situation becomes exponentially more hairy.

19 posted on 12/27/2007 3:44:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: justiceseeker93

Yep, I caught that too. Then again liberals (like Bloomfield) lumping all variety of conservatives together is nothing new. The author probably agrees with Buchanan (regarding Israel) a lot more than he’d be comfortable with.


20 posted on 12/27/2007 3:47:11 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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