Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

LA Gang F13 Accused of Targeting Blacks
AP (via MyWay news) ^ | Dec 30, 2007 | THOMAS WATKINS

Posted on 12/30/2007 12:27:36 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

LOS ANGELES (AP) - In a murderous quest aimed at "cleansing" their turf of snitches and rival gangsters, members of one of Los Angeles County's most vicious Latino gangs sometimes killed people just because of their race, an investigation found.

There were even instances in which Florencia 13 leaders ordered killings of black gangsters and then, when the intended victim couldn't be located, said "Well, shoot any black you see," Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said.

"In certain cases some murders were just purely motivated on killing a black person," Baca said.

Authorities say there were 20 murders among more than 80 shootings documented during the gang's rampage in the hardscrabble Florence-Firestone neighborhood, exceptional even in an area where gang violence has been commonplace for decades. They don't specify the time frame or how many of the killings were racial.

Los Angeles has struggled with gang violence for years, especially during the wars in the late 1980s and early '90s between the Crips and the Bloods - both black gangs. Latino gangs have gained influence since then as the Hispanic population surged.

Evidence of Florencia 13, or F13, is easy to find in Florence-Firestone. Arrows spray-painted on the wall of a liquor store mark the gang's boundary and graffiti warns rivals to steer clear.

The gang's name comes from the neighborhood that is its stronghold and the 13th letter of the alphabet - M - representing the gang's ties to the Mexican Mafia.

Federal, state and local officials worked together to charge 102 men linked to F13 with racketeering, conspiracy to murder, weapons possession, drug dealing and other crimes. In terms of people charged, it's the largest-ever federal case involving a Southern California gang, prosecutors say. More than 80 of those indicted are in custody.

But eliminating the gang won't be easy. It's survived for decades and is believed to have about 2,000 members. Its reach extends to Nevada, Arizona and into prisons, where prosecutors say incarcerated gang leaders were able to order hits on black gangsters.

According to the indictment, F13's leader, Arturo Castellanos, sent word in 2004 from California's fortress-like Pelican Bay State Prison that he wanted his street soldiers to begin "cleansing" Florence-Firestone of black gangsters, notably the East Coast Crips, and snitches.

His followers eagerly obeyed, according to federal prosecutors.

In one case, F13 members came across a black man at a bus stop, shouted "Cheese toast!" and fired. "Cheese toast" is a derogatory name for East Coast Crips, Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin S. Rosenberg said.

The victim, apparently targeted only because of his skin color, survived being shot several times, Rosenberg said.

F13 isn't the only Latino gang linked to racial killings. Last year, four members of The Avenues, a gang from the Highland Park area east of downtown Los Angeles, were convicted of hate crimes for killing a black man in what prosecutors called a campaign to drive blacks from that neighborhood. And last January, authorities announced a crackdown on the 204th Street gang following the killing of a 14-year-old black girl.

The violence goes both ways, said Adam Torres, a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department gang detective whose beat includes Florence-Firestone.

During a recent patrol on the east side of the neighborhood, he pointed to a cinderblock wall peppered with bullet holes. Torres said the Crips still control that area and any Hispanic there is at risk of being shot.

Despite the wave of violence, George Tita, a criminologist with the University of California, Irvine, said racially motivated gang killings are an exception. Latinos and blacks are far more likely to be murdered by one of their own.

"You don't see these major black-brown wars, either within the context of gangs or outside the context of gangs," Tita said.

Residents of Florence-Firestone are loath to discuss gangs, fearful they might end up as targets, but there are signs of change. Murders in the neighborhood dropped from 43 in 2005 to 19 in 2006, Baca said. For 2007, there were 19 murders as of Dec. 24.

Jose Garcia sees the difference. The security doors on the store where he works aren't covered with graffiti as often and he hasn't heard a gunshot in two months.

"It used to be at least once or twice a week," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; cheesetoast; eastcoastcrips; f13; florencia13; gang; gangs; immigration; la; losangeles; race; racewar; racewarcoming; theavenues; war
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 next last
To: Mr. Mojo

Yes, and black gangs in the NE/Upper Midwest have been targeting whites for years, even driving them out of whole neighborhoods 30-35 years ago. Thugs are as thugs do, no matter what their race.


21 posted on 12/30/2007 1:13:56 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo
Have apartments for rent in Boston... September - a young professional Black women came by for a look/see... She wanted the apartment BUT she wanted to know the racial makeup of the neighborhood, e.g. Were there any Hispanics in the neighborhood? - exact question...

Answer: Everyone in the neighborhood is a professional and some may be Hispanic.

She passed on the apartment.

22 posted on 12/30/2007 1:15:39 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

Are nthey supposed to start killing more whites and asians and Indians? Just to be fair, of course.


23 posted on 12/30/2007 1:15:42 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Caipirabob

LOL! Good post. Thanks. - Bill


24 posted on 12/30/2007 1:17:02 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

This is happening only in sanctuary cities.


25 posted on 12/30/2007 1:32:46 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Logical me

Take it a step further. Declare that all gangs are terrorist organizations and bring in the Special Forces.


26 posted on 12/30/2007 1:38:03 PM PST by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: bill1952
I had a Hispanic man tell me straight up that he liked to live in white neighborhoods. He was a very nice guy, had a family, kids and a couple of well taken care of dogs. Not a gang banger at all.
27 posted on 12/30/2007 1:44:58 PM PST by BBell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: BBell
I had a Hispanic man tell me straight up that he liked to live in white neighborhoods.

I had a black guy tell me the same thing. People like to be safe.

28 posted on 12/30/2007 2:35:58 PM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

29 posted on 12/30/2007 2:38:58 PM PST by BJungNan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bodhi1

30 posted on 12/30/2007 2:41:09 PM PST by BJungNan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

Last year Cnn had a special on the 18th St gangs. If you’re black and you dare cross that street, you’re a dead man.

Scary, horrible stuff.


31 posted on 12/30/2007 2:45:56 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo
This is the notorious MCheckerHead13 gang


32 posted on 12/30/2007 2:46:22 PM PST by BJungNan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

Lovely. Way to start a race war.

No need to remind me to stay away from cities.


33 posted on 12/30/2007 3:15:54 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mark was here

If I, as a white man, said that I liked to live in white neighborhoods it would be construed as a racist statement! Racism is a one way street. NOT!!!


34 posted on 12/30/2007 3:31:48 PM PST by BBell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo
Cheese Toast?
35 posted on 12/30/2007 3:35:54 PM PST by razorback-bert (Remember that amateurs built the Ark while professionals built the Titanic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rocksblues
This is happening only in sanctuary cities.

So, how does that playout for sanctuary states? Mr. Bill is our governor and he has made our whole state a sanctuary state. There are a lot of murders but it's usually Mexican on Mexican. We've definitely noticed an increase in gang activity all over NM.

36 posted on 12/30/2007 3:52:26 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Logical me

>Build a huge concentrate camp on one of the channel islands and drop by aircraft a little food once in a while.<

Bad idea! Too close to California. A much better location is:
Johnston Island is a low sand and coral island, 717 miles W.S.W. of Honolulu. It is 1,000 yards long, about 200 yards wide, and reaches a greatest height of 44 feet in “Summit Peak” near its eastern end.

The United States Fish and Wildlife Service is scheduled to gain oversight of the island in 2004 as a wildlife refuge. It is not normal practice for a wildlife refuge to be established over a plutonium landfill and there is still considerable concern that the contaminants absorbed by fish could carry the threat elsewhere.

http://www.janeresture.com/johnston/


37 posted on 12/30/2007 3:55:00 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo
Latino gangs sometimes killed people just because of their race...

It's a darned lie! The only racists in this country is us white crackers.

38 posted on 12/30/2007 4:01:29 PM PST by Rudder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BJungNan
I see your MchecherHeads and raise you the Notorious JugHeaders. That cat Jughead is one bad m*******


39 posted on 12/30/2007 4:08:24 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Aztlan My Azz: La Raza is Spanish for Tan Klan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo; BJungNan

THAT has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. How anyone can be that stupid is beyond me. Targeted killing of those nuts would be easy.

I wonder how much panic there would be in gang banger land if we started a rumor that there are fatal levels of lead in the paint that tatoo artists use? LOL The police could pick them up as they scrambled to plastic surgeons to get them removed.

40 posted on 12/30/2007 4:37:18 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson