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Ron Paul not invited to Fox News forum
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| 12-31-2007
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Posted on 12/31/2007 9:38:51 PM PST by Nachum
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To: mysterio
Yeah but 2 or 3 of the candiates could make it easier for Fox to make the right decision:’)
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posted on
12/31/2007 11:09:21 PM PST
by
CindyDawg
(.)
To: mysterio
Will they decorate with plants this time?
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posted on
12/31/2007 11:11:59 PM PST
by
CindyDawg
(.)
To: Nachum
They probably didn’t want the distraction of a crank whose constantly explaining the motives and apologizing for terrorists by saying their actions are justifiable because we don’t follow his gimcrack theories on “noninterventionism” and al Qaeda has grievances.
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posted on
01/01/2008 12:36:33 AM PST
by
elhombrelibre
(Al Qaeda: enemy of civilization and humanity. Ron Paul: al Qaeda's puppet and mouthpiece.)
To: Nachum
Duncan Hunter should not be excluded and Paul should not be excluded.
It makes this smell of insider beltway media types controlling events even stronger.
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posted on
01/01/2008 1:30:13 AM PST
by
Nextrush
(NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
To: Nachum
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posted on
01/01/2008 2:39:46 AM PST
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
(“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
To: Nachum
FYI: www.ConspiracyPenPal.com Fairly Unbalanced I just got off the phone with New Hampshire GOP headquarters. A NH GOP official confirmed a press release from its chairman, Fergus Cullen, which unequivocally supports the story about Ron Paul's Nov 6 forum exclusion by Fox News. Unequivocally! They claimed always to have worked directly with Ron Paul headquarters in getting him included, however, just as they continue to do at this moment. The press release is so new that it is not yet posted upon the NH GOP web site, but Ron Paul has its full text up on his site already. Said the GOP's Mr. Cullen, in part: The New Hampshire Republican Party has notified FOX News of our position, and we are in ongoing discussions with FOX News about having as many candidates as possible participate in the forum scheduled for January 6. Just a Weekend Affair A huge controversy arose over the weekend as various web pundits, bloggers, blowhards and, even, the venerable WorldNetDaily.com all called Ron Paul a liar, claiming there never was such a forum and, just in case there was, that it was cancelled, anyhow, and how could an organization be so incompetent or its leadership so out of touch? Based upon these allegations, a great many Ron Paul supporters seem to have jumped ship. Time to climb back aboard, folks. You've been had. Here's how: Yesterday, the widely-followed Alex Jones' Prison Planet jumped in with both feet by republishing a Nolan Chart blog, Ron Paul Not Excluded from Fox Debate, by William Westmiller. To his credit, Alex Jones now has reversed himself and Mr. Westmiller has "revised" his blog entry in a none-too-clear fashion, though clearly reversing himself, nonetheless. Oddly, Mr. Westmiller counts himself as one of Dr. Paul's supporters (with friends like this...). Another Nolan Chart blogger, John Armstrong, increased the disinformation level with his Ron Paul's Fox News Fiasco: The Spin Starts Here. Mr. Armstrong does not yet appear either to have corrected his misreporting or explained the basis for it. What is it with this Nolan Chart web site, anyway? Oh, Joe! Not You, Too. Say It Isn't So, Joe. Yesterday, WorldNetDaily.com also joined in, beating up Dr. Paul with Ron Paul Excluded from Debate? Not Exactly, though with no attribution. Several hours ago, I emailed Joe Farah, WND's publisher, and asked if he intended to issue a retraction. No reply as yet and no retraction, as such, but Joe just has posted a new story: Ron Paul Not Invited to Fox News Forum, with no mention made of yesterday's grotesquely-wrong article. The Faux News Channel Today's Baltimore Sun confirmed the original story of exclusion by Fox News prior to the NH GOP's press release: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/ron_paul_indeed_outfoxed_for_n.html Are you mad yet? I am. But, then, I'm always mad about something, it seems. Though inundated with copies of those false claims, I responded to all comers with, "Just wait and see." For each and every such claim I got, however, I was gratified to be copied onto hundreds of complaints directed at Fox News. Well, we have waited. We have seen. The only question now remaining is: Just how guilty is Fox News? Did Fox News simply exclude Dr. Paul from the Nov 6 forum (and continue to exclude him, what's more) or are they at the base of what clearly was a false disinformation campaign over the weekend? We don't call it the Faux News Channel for nothing, after all. Fairly Unbalanced Fox News, far from being "Fair and Balanced," actually is Fairly Unbalanced, as it turns out. We Report, You Decide? Hah! More like: We Decide, You Shut Up (guess I've been watching too much O'Reilly again). It is high time for Fox News to back down and invite Dr. Paul to its little shindig. You only thought I was outraged before! There is every indication, from the blowback and bounces, that we managed to blow the Fox News server out of the water over the weekend with our outraged emails. The NH GOP, too, acknowledged having been overwhelmed with the thousands upon thousands of phone calls and emails in support of Dr. Paul. They claim not to be guilty. Fair enough. Fox News sure as hell is guilty, though. Let's see what we can do now, folks. The NH GOP is on board, so let's leave them alone. Fox News has yet to get the message, though, it seems. A few have suggested to me that you need more Fox News names, phone numbers, fax numbers and email addresses. Well, here you go: (There is just a little redundancy in the following list, cobbled together from several sources, but Fox News never has complained about redundancy before. And, remember, they can delete emails wholesale, but somebody has to sort through all the voicemails.) Bill O'Reilly, O'Reilly Factor Host : Phone: 212-301-3320; Email: bill.oreilly@foxnews.com Brian Knoblock, International Editor : Phone: 212-301-5486; Email: brian.knoblock@foxnews.com Brit Hume, Managing Editor : Phone: 202-824-6470; Fax: 202-824-6426; Br it.Hume@foxnews.com David Asman, Fox News Host : Phone: 212-301-3944; Email: david.asman@foxnews.com Ian Rae, Exec. VP News : Phone: 212-301-8552; Email: ian.rae@foxnews.com Jane Skinner, News Anchor : Phone: 212-301-5023; Email: jane.skinner@fo xnews.com John Moody, Sen VP News : Phone: 212-301-8560; Email: john.moody@foxnews.com Justin Schmidt, Chicago Bureau Chief : Phone: 312-494-0428; Fax: 312-494-0445 Kathy Ardleigh, Sen. Politics Producer : Phone: 212-301-3186; Email: kathy.ardleigh@foxnews.com Ken LaCorte, Los Angeles Bureau Chief : Phone: 310-571-2000; Fax: 310-571-2009 Kim Schiller Hume, Wash DC Bureau Chief : Phone: 202-824-6389; Fax: 202-824-6426 Shepard Smith, Fox Report Host : Phone: 212-301-3711; Email: shepard.smith@foxnews.com Thom Bird, Fox News Sen. Producer : Phone: 212-301-3250; Email: thom.bird@foxnews.com Todd Ciganek, National News Editor : Phone: 212-301-3352; Email: todd.ciganek@foxnews.com yourcomments@foxnews.com, americasnewsroom@foxnews.com, beltway@foxnews.com, Myword@foxnews.com, yourwordlive@foxnews.com, bullsandbears@foxnews.com, cash@foxnews.com, Cavuto@foxnews.com, Fncimag@foxnews.com, Forbes@foxnews.com, Friends@foxnews.com, Feedback@foxnews.com, Jamie@foxnews.com, Fncspecials@foxnews.com, FNS@foxnews.com, Newswatch@foxnews.com, Foxreport@foxnews.com, Atlarge@foxnews.com, Hannity@foxnews.com, Heartland@foxnews.com, JER@foxnews.com, Lineup@foxnews.com, Martha@foxnews.com, Ontherecord@foxnews.com, Oreilly@foxnews.com, Redeye@foxnews.com, Special@foxnews.com, Studiob@foxnews.com, Comments@foxnews.com, foxnewsonline@foxnews.com; yourcomments@foxnews.com; jane.skinner@foxnews.com; john.moody@foxnews.com; viewerservices@foxnews.com; kathy.ardleigh@foxnews.com; shepard.smith@foxnews.com; thom.bird@foxnews.com; todd.ciganek@foxnews.com Comments@foxnews.com; AmericasNewsroom@foxnews.com; Beltway@foxnews.com; Myword@foxnews.com; Bigstory-weekend@foxnews.com; Bullsandbears@foxnews.com; Cash@foxnews.com; Cavuto@foxnews.com; Fncimag@foxnews.com; Forbes@foxnews.com; Friends@foxnews.com; Feedback@foxnews.com; Jamie@foxnews.com; Fncspecials@foxnews.com; FNS@foxnews.com;Newswatch@foxnews.com; Foxreport@foxnews.com; Atlarge@foxnews.com; Hannityandcolmes@foxnews.com; Heartland@foxnews.com; JER@foxnews.com; Lineup@foxnews.com; Martha@foxnews.com; Ontherecord@foxnews.com; Oreilly@foxnews.com; < a href="mailto:Redeye@foxnews.com" title="mailto:Redeye@foxnews.com">Redeye@foxnews.com; Special@foxnews.com; Studiob@foxnews.com; Cavuto@foxnews.com; Hemme r@foxnews.com; colonelscorner@foxnews.com; Fatherjonathan@foxnews.com; Drmanny@foxnews.com; Lisonlaw@foxnews.com; < a href="mailto:Housecall@foxnews.com" title="mailto:Housecall@foxnews.com">Housecall@foxnews.com Our President is under attack, folks. Get mad. Get even. Get cooking. You know what to do. In the immortal words of Hedley Lamarr (Blazing Saddles): Go do that voodoo that you do...so well! -ed www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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posted on
01/01/2008 2:53:39 AM PST
by
gunnyg
To: Maelstorm
When insanity comes, itll be towing a blimp and asking for money. Quote from a fellow freeper...
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posted on
01/01/2008 3:05:46 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Drug dealers are NOT "unlicensed pharmacists" - - Illegals are NOT "undocumented workers". Bailey)
To: gunnyg
A “p” (without the quote marks) with one of these in front: < and one of these afterwards: >, every once in awhile in that text, will paragraph it, and will break all that up a bit, make it easier on the eyes!!
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posted on
01/01/2008 3:20:43 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(Your FR Pledge: Bookmark It Today! "I Won't Support Mitt/Rudy/McCain/Huckster in General Election")
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Big Time. They, FOX, suck seven days to Monday. Reprehensible.
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posted on
01/01/2008 3:21:23 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(Your FR Pledge: Bookmark It Today! "I Won't Support Mitt/Rudy/McCain/Huckster in General Election")
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; Irontank; ...
To: gunnyg
WALL OF TEXT CRITS YOU FOR 1 MILLION HIT POINTS
YOU DIE.
51
posted on
01/01/2008 5:32:16 AM PST
by
Pistolshot
(Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
To: Rome2000
“Whats a Ron Paul?”
It makes it painful to sit, but can be surgically removed.
52
posted on
01/01/2008 5:39:03 AM PST
by
billhilly
(I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
To: CindyDawg
Fred is the borderline-RINO alternative to Hunter. His presence in the race does nothing for real conservatism.
If Fred was home, Hunter would be a player in this thing.
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posted on
01/01/2008 6:16:29 AM PST
by
ovrtaxt
(Hunter is ignored by the MSM for a reason.)
To: Nachum
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posted on
01/01/2008 6:41:57 AM PST
by
OkiMusashi
(Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
To: CindyDawg
All that are running need to be there. Let the people decide.
Should they also allow Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich? While they are almost as anti-American as cut and run, they like Paul, are not Republicans.
To: rideharddiefast
Interesting question. My first thought was are they running as Republicans. My Second thought was what is a Republican. That really needs to be defined because that might even eliminate some of the top five. Sigh... I’m beginning to wonder if me switching from Independent to Republican was a good move.
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posted on
01/01/2008 7:40:32 AM PST
by
CindyDawg
(.)
To: kinoxi; AuntB; CindyDawg
Im not sure I follow you. I try to vote principle. Are you disputing mine? O r attempting to call my candidate Hunter a failure in the obvious overwhelming force of the Fredster. My conscience wins every time.i'm a Ron Paul supporter, but i have to tell you that you are exactly right.
Stick with your principles, try to persuade others to stick with their principles, don't ever back down (unless absolutely proven wrong).
More voters need to put principle over popularity and party. Those who do have my respect, even when i disagree with them.
If you think Hunter is your guy, keep going forward. AuntB has kept going with Hunter through some of the worst, and is still going forward. She (?) is an example to emulate.
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posted on
01/01/2008 7:42:17 AM PST
by
Calvinist_Dark_Lord
((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Yeah, we have to get past that “can’t win” thing. Of course they can’t if you don’t support them.
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posted on
01/01/2008 7:47:37 AM PST
by
CindyDawg
(.)
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
You are too kind. A candidate like Hunter is easy to support.
Happy New Year all!
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posted on
01/01/2008 8:00:49 AM PST
by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: EternalVigilance
Everyone who is on the ballot should be on the debate stage. Anything less amounts to nothing less than a disenfranchisement of large numbers of citizens in these states, and across the country. Generally, I would agree with you, but Alan Keyes's candidacy makes it difficult to say "everyone."
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posted on
01/01/2008 8:14:42 AM PST
by
Nephi
( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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