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1 posted on 01/04/2008 10:12:33 AM PST by Leisler
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Solution: A Faraday cage for your thermostat. Snap it over Build it around the thermostat to prevent the clowns from making changes.

A better solution, of course, involves the Second Amendment.


2 posted on 01/04/2008 10:18:18 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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Our power company has something similar to this in place on a voluntary basis.

Sure, I’m going to sign up to allow the power company to regulate the temperature in my house. Riiiight.


3 posted on 01/04/2008 10:21:00 AM PST by Hoffer Rand
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Big Brother


5 posted on 01/04/2008 10:27:19 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Leisler; Paleo Conservative; dennisw; Cacique; nutmeg

Anyone know a of a property rights list? This is frightening.


6 posted on 01/04/2008 10:28:06 AM PST by rmlew (Felix sit novus annus)
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I have burned 6 cord of rock maple in my home each winter for the ast 25 years. I do not have a thermostat.To stop me they would have to surveil me 24 hours a day, and take away all lucifer matches in the county.

Ladies and Gentlemen, invest in a chain saw today. There is plenty of excess biomass which is waiting for you to foil all the Arab Oil there ever was.

8 posted on 01/04/2008 10:29:15 AM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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Liberals want Big Brother out of your bedroom and in your bathroom, your lighting fixtures, your smoking chair, your kitchen, your fridge, your thermostat...


9 posted on 01/04/2008 10:29:18 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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A small light bulb under the thermostat should provide suitable relief.


11 posted on 01/04/2008 10:29:50 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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The mandate here is an interesting element.

A similar "Demand-Response" system for commercial buildings is in development, with the California Energy Commission and DOE as two of the players. But there are significant differences, beyond the relatively small one of adjusting the "deadband" instead of the setpoint.

Building owners can sign up for the program, in exchange for lowered rates, and when the request to shed loads goes out, the building's usage is monitored for compliance.

But this is a voluntary contract, not a mandate.

12 posted on 01/04/2008 10:30:55 AM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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Each PCT will be fitted with a "non-removable " FM receiver

Non-removable? It's so cute when they think they are in control. Potential work arounds:

Smuggled in Mexican thermostats.
Faraday cage around the thermostat.
Little tiny heater/cooler for the thermostat. Think of sticking an ice pack on your thermostat so that it always keeps the heater on.
Replacing the temperature sensor with one calibrated a little differently.
Alternate FM transmitter that tells your thermostat "everything's fine, keep running normally". Crank up the power and your neighbors will thank you.
Neutering the FM receiver.
Removing the thermostat entirely and just holding together the wires you need to either heat or cool your house.

14 posted on 01/04/2008 10:32:53 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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My wife controls our thermostat. And anybody, including me, whe gets in her way will suffer the consequences.


16 posted on 01/04/2008 10:33:45 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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"...just part of the mandated paperwork"

signed,
the taxman.

19 posted on 01/04/2008 10:36:30 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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I can see the guy never lived in base housing. They do it all the time.

“Cold? Cold? It’s not cold yet. We don’t turn the heat on for base housing for another 2 weeks yet.”


21 posted on 01/04/2008 10:39:53 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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I guess the state doesn`t know about space heaters and window installed AC units...


24 posted on 01/04/2008 10:40:22 AM PST by Bud Krieger
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If the gov isn’t controlling your thermostat now, it wants to. It starts in gov-subsidized housing. Then in public buildings. Then in office buildings. Then in homes with people getting gov assistance. Then they cry “climate disaster” again for a few months and pass another law that gets the gov deeper into our lives.


28 posted on 01/04/2008 10:45:59 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Just to provide a little reality check to the article intent on scaring everyone away from this program....

One - it will be voluntary and programmable by the customer.

Two - it would only be employed to raise your setpoint, most likely by cycling the compressor in your condensing unit in 15 minute cycles, during EMERGENCY (read brownout or blackout conditions).

Three - it makes sense to reduce your use during times when prices are the highest. The PCT is designed to receive price and reliability signals. Thus, when real time pricing reaches California and the MARKET determines the price of energy, you will ALL be happy to have these in operation.

Four - this allows for very specific geographic load control and reduction of potential demand and constraint issues and helps the overall stability of the grid.


Now, to point you to some REAL information about the program, see below.

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Statewide Demand Response Network Update from California
12.14.07   Rick Boland, CEO and President, e-Radio USA, Inc.
Karen Herter, Ph.D., Senior Researcher, Heschong Mahone Group, Inc.

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California continues to push forward with revisions to its Title 24 Building Energy Efficiency Standards that will mandate a programmable communicating thermostat (PCT) for all new residential buildings. PCT's are thermostats that receive price or electric system reliability signals, and can be programmed by the customer to automatically reduce energy consumption through thermostat set-point adjustments. This initiative will be effective beginning in 2009.

PCTs are part of California’s strategy to develop a statewide demand response system that can be used to encourage a more informed and empowered customer base. In time, such a system is expected to reduce system costs and prevent system disruptions. Other North American states and provinces are closely watching the California Title 24 initiative with interest in adopting similar programs.

The California Energy Commission (CEC) has proposed that all PCT’s will contain an embedded one-way FM-RDS radio communications module that can receive and decode messages. This communications system is intended as a low-cost statewide default messaging system that will precede but eventually co-exist with future home automation systems. To encourage interoperability, PCTs are also required to have expansion ports that will allow utilities and other service providers to add communications modules and establish links to other devices. Thermostat manufacturers are currently developing prototype PCT devices based on the California specifications, which include functionality for both pricing and load control programs. These devices may lead to a standardized U.S. or global PCT.

Policy and Regulatory Issues

The California Public Resource Code assigns the CEC with the responsibility of developing and maintaining standards for energy efficiency and load management. PCTs, a proposed addition to the 2008 Title 24 building standards, will enable new buildings with automated load management capabilities. The recently-released Title 24 revision proposal is currently in a 45-day comment period and has final adoption date of January 30, 2008.

The CEC is focusing on air-conditioning (AC) for many reasons. AC load control has long been considered a viable strategy for reducing peak demand because it is large and generally considered to be discretionary. AC is California’s largest peak load, so aggregate load drops can be significant - up to 30% of California peak load. However, since the full AC demand is made up of millions of individual loads, addressability in PCTs would allow for the isolation of very small and geographically focused loads. And for most homes and businesses, an increase of a few degrees would not significantly impact comfort or economics, particularly if it happens only during extreme emergencies (less than once per year).

Expected Benefits of a Statewide System

The development of a low-cost, statewide PCT standard is expected to reduce the costs of future utility programs by integrating support for pricing, efficiency, and demand response programs into a single interoperable and expandable device. PCTs or analogous technologies are envisioned to support dynamic pricing, incentive programs and system reliability. The recently completed California Statewide Pricing Pilot demonstrated the effectiveness of PCTs in achieving these goals. In addition, the PCT can provide a new source of messaging capabilities from utility companies to their customers and another method to communicate during disaster or emergency periods.

Currently, the CEC envisions that the primary function of PCTs is to allow customers to save or earn money by participating in pricing or AC load control programs offered by their service providers. These automated actions can lower everyday peaks and initiate significant demand response when wholesale costs are high, helping to avoid emergencies. Should an emergency occur, the secondary function of a PCT network is to avoid rotating outages by quickly dropping geographically-targeted AC load.

Pricing. Under time-of-use (TOU) rates, customers are provided with incentives to program the PCT to shift load from more expensive to less expensive time periods every day. Under critical-peak pricing (CPP) or real-time pricing (RTP) tariffs, pricing signals sent to the PCT can automatically initiate price-event control strategies as programmed by the customer – or, customers may choose not to respond to price events at all.

Programs. PCTs can also provide customers the option to earn money through voluntary participation in load control and other demand response programs that pay for participation and/or performance. Because control strategies are temperature-based, comfort impacts can be equalized across customers groups. In contrast, AC cycling can unduly affect those with smaller AC units.

Emergencies. During emergencies, PCTs can provide the option for electric service providers to exercise control over air conditioning (AC) loads to create “partial outages” in all non-exempt customer facilities as a last resort to avoid full rotating outages. Partial outages are more economically efficient than full rotating outages because the effects are limited to the reduction of a single discretionary service such as AC, rather than elimination of all services as occurs in rotating outages. Customers will not have the ability to override this type of load control event.

Messaging. Other non-emergency supported messaging programs to the PCT will allow the customer to respond to appeals for conservation and voluntary curtailment activities. The same system could be used for public service or emergency announcements.

How Will The Statewide System Work?

A preliminary operating schematic of a statewide network is provided below:

PCT Design Requirements

California has devoted a sizable effort developing standards for a statewide PCT. A PCT reference design has been established that specifies features and requirements. The statewide PCT will contain typical programmable setback and display features, a non-removable FM-RDS communications module, a 24-volt power supply and the ability to randomize the load rebound to a programmed set-point after an event.

The PCT will also contain a standard expansion port to allow the insertion of a utility-specific communications module to support utility demand response or home automation programs. In addition, the PCT will have addressability features to allow for targeted messaging to the substation level with a goal to address the individual PCT. The RDS communications module must also support encryption standards that are currently being developed to ensure a secure statewide network. Currently, several thermostat manufacturers have developed prototype Title 24 PCT devices.

Advancements in RDS Technology

California carefully considered several technologies for the communications method for a statewide network. A research team at UC Berkeley recommended the use of FM radio Radio Data System (RDS) to the CEC as the best communications solution for the Title 24 statewide network.

RDS leverages an existing FM radio infrastructure and a global communications standard that is widely used in the automotive industry. Other benefits of RDS include wide signal coverage that can effectively reach remote areas, strong building penetration, minimal message latency, addressability and encryption support and the reliability of 24x7x365 availability. RDS bandwidth and hardware costs are also lower as compared to other technologies.

In preparation for the enactment of revisions to the Title 24 standards in California, several technical initiatives and pilot programs are underway:

  • Testing and validation of RDS technology under an initiative of the Energy Commission’s PIER program.
  • The establishment of a demand response technology demonstration showcase at the California ISO headquarters. A portion of the showcase utilizes RDS to deliver messages to PCTs and other in-home display devices.
  • A pilot program with a large California municipal utility to evaluate demand response programs utilizing RDS communications technology beginning in early 2008.
  • The development and testing of RDS communications modules for PCT’s with various thermostat manufacturers.

Next Steps

There are several technical and operational issues that need to be addressed before a PCT system can be become operational on a statewide basis:

  • Standard messages for activating control must be finalized so manufacturers can design PCT software to ensure a compatible statewide solution.
  • Addressability must be compatible with CA ISO and utility control areas.
  • Load impacts must be managed at the onset and conclusion of events to ensure a smooth return of AC load to the system.
  • The building, testing and certification of a statewide RDS communications network of FM radio stations sufficient to cover at least 90 percent of the population.
  • Approval of PCT response as a substitute for rotating outages.
  • Determination of an entity to fund and oversee operation of the RDS system.
  • Installation and PCT setup procedures for professional installers or the homeowner.

California continues to take steps to mitigate statewide energy crisis conditions it has encountered over the past decade such as sharply rising energy prices and rolling blackouts. A statewide system to communicate with PCT’s is a building block strategy towards creating a more reliable supply of energy and allowing utility company energy efficiency programs to develop and flourish. These programs are also consistent with California’s priorities to be a world leader in energy efficiency and the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

Link

http://www.energypulse.net/centers/article/article_display.cfm?a_id=1622


29 posted on 01/04/2008 10:47:54 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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Next up; time locks on the refrigerator... for our own protection naturally.


31 posted on 01/04/2008 10:53:22 AM PST by 6SJ7
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In every central heating/cooling unit I`ve ever seen there are two wires which run to the thermostat from the unit, by-passing these wires effectively by-passes the thermostat. Even better, running an auxiliary set to a second old fashioned analog thermostat will cut them out of the loop all together and they can then pound sand.
37 posted on 01/04/2008 11:11:25 AM PST by nomad
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My daughter taught in Kiev for a year. On October 15th, the government turned on the heat in her apartment, on april 15th, they turned it off-—regardless of the outside temperature. A relic of communism I guess.


38 posted on 01/04/2008 11:12:21 AM PST by texjan
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Nuclear power now. We need to build as many as possible, maybe even several per state. Then we can think about electric vehicles.


43 posted on 01/04/2008 11:30:35 AM PST by mysterio
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Someone once told me that the only difference between a husband and a wife was 3 degrees on the thermostat.


44 posted on 01/04/2008 11:31:34 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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