Pro-lifer Confronts Giuliani During Speech -- 'You are a baby killer'

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[Mrs. Don-o]

"...most people don't consider [powerful pro-abortion politicians] baby killers either."

A regrettable lack of realism on their part, then. If only we could convince people that he supported legal and even publicly-subsidized programs to crush, say, labrador puppies to a bloody pulp.

[Das Outsider]

What do you recommend that would be better and more effective?

To begin with, what has Rudy actually said with regard to Roe v. Wade and the so-called right to choose?

Working with that, I would make an exposition of just what it is that Giuliani supports. Does he still stand by the bogus right to abortion, knowing what's involved? How does he justify that? If Rudy still stands by pro-abortion position, he cannot be trusted in his judgment, particularly in the highest office in the land.

All of the above would be put forth in media through various pro-life organizations. The key word is 'pressure.' Rightfully calling Giuliani out through advertisement, television spots, public information campaigns, and well-organized protests is at least a bit better than heckling. Am I right?

[wintertime]

You are.

[mbraynard]

That’s not true. Apart from fighting against federal funding of abortions here and oversees, including the Mexico City policy, passing restrictions like the PBA Ban (though overturned, and encouraging funding of abstinence education are real pro-life accomplishents by Rs on the federal level.

[wintertime]

Second there is no public consensus that abortion is murder.

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Gratefully, the tide is changing. One by one people are coming to see that abortion is the killing of a person.

[narses]

I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

[narses]

While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment only two were Republican.

All of his other judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.


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http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9054.html

“And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.”
Rudolph Giuliani

At the first Republican debate in May, Giuliani was alone among the GOP candidates in offering a less-than-robust affirmation when asked whether it would be a good day if the Supreme Court overturned the Roe v. Wade ruling.

"It would be OK," Giuliani said. "It would be OK to repeal it."

But, he added: "It would be OK also if a strict constructionist viewed it as precedent" and kept the law intact.

[hocndoc]

The President has always said that he would not overturn R. v W.

But, he pledged to change hearts and minds so that women did not seek abortion. The President backed the Partial Birth Abortion Ban, the prenatal protection act and the born alive act. Most of all, he put 2 justices on the SCOTUS who *can* overturn R. v W.

Rudy thinks abortion is a viable “choice,” without limit.

On the other hand, I’m a bit encouraged that Ted Olsen has worked to assure us that Rudy would nominate Constitutionally Conservative judges.

[Jorge]

That’s not true. Apart from fighting against federal funding of abortions here and oversees, including the Mexico City policy, passing restrictions like the PBA Ban (though overturned, and encouraging funding of abstinence education are real pro-life accomplishments by Rs on the federal level.

I thought Bush was responsible for revoking the Fed funding of overseas abortions? Not Fed judges.
He did that right after he was elected.

[Hugin]

OK.

I’m not a Rudy supporter. I’m not sure how your post relates to any of my comments.

[narses]

While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment only two were Republican.

All of his other judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.


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http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9054.html

“And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.”
Rudolph Giuliani

At the first Republican debate in May, Giuliani was alone among the GOP candidates in offering a less-than-robust affirmation when asked whether it would be a good day if the Supreme Court overturned the Roe v. Wade ruling.

"It would be OK," Giuliani said. "It would be OK to repeal it."

But, he added: "It would be OK also if a strict constructionist viewed it as precedent" and kept the law intact.

[KMAJ2]

[[To the best of my knowledge, Hitler, Stalin and Mao never personally killed anyone either.]]

This has to be one of the most ignorant over the top statements I have seen in my years on Free Republic. Are you trying to say Giuliani ordered abortions be performed as these authoritarians who ordered the worst atrocities ever committed against humanity ? Would you care to show such an order that forced unwilling women have abortions ?

This only shows some social conservative ideologues will use the same tactics as the far left and can be just as authoritarian, thus are enemies of freedom.

Conservatism that seeks to dictate is not the true conservatism that this country was founded on, it is authoritarianism in its ugliest form.

And before you scream Giuliani supporter, that I am not, I find his second amendment stance to be very troublesome. but I would vote for him over ANY democrat because the key to the freedom we enjoy is economic conservatism. That is why Huckabee is the most dangerous republican in the field, with his populist/socialist economic message. He is as dangerous to individual freedom as any democrat.

[narses]

Tuesday, June 20, 2000
MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY

[Das Outsider]

Thanks! That’s precisely the kind of stuff that needs to be put out there, in a major way. A man who supports—or at least opposes a ban on—partial-birth abortion should be called to account for it. Just how many Americans oppose the procedure of partial-birth abortion?

[Jorge]

The President has always said that he would not overturn R. v W.

Thank you. I was sure I heard GWB say this years ago.

[RockinRight]

By making pro-lifers appear reactionary and immature. There are better ways he could have made his point.

[narses]

GIULIANI: There must be public funding for abortions for poor women. We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decision about abortion because she lacks resources.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/giulianis_abortion_folly.html

[Ann Archy]

This makes us look stupid....was Rudy KILLING babues?? If not the guy shouldn’t hace accused him of it.

[narses]

Rootie is a totalitarian babykiller. That is a fact. He promotes taxpayer funded killing of babies. He is evil. Got it?

[narses]

GIULIANI: There must be public funding for abortions for poor women. We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decision about abortion because she lacks resources.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/giulianis_abortion_folly.html

He favors taxpayer funding of babykilling and is running for President. He is a babykiller.