[kellynla]

Orange's new regulations • Ban solicitation from sidewalks next to streets without parking lanes.

• Ban solicitation by people while driving on a city street.

• Ban solicitation from private property without owner's approval.

• Require that permits be obtained to run job centers on private property.

• Establish buffer zones around city-run Resource Center.

• Ban soliciting in traffic lanes, medians or driveways on a public right of way.

[kellynla]

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[A CA Guy]

Capture and detain them for the INS...

Especially if they are warned more than once.

[bill1952]

"And it gets frustrating sometimes when you tell them you can't be there and they're there the next day."

[kellynla]

City of Orange,CA report

A report that prompted the day laborer ordinances cited:

• Problems include swarming of cars, intimidation of shoppers and public nuisances that occur when day laborers congregate.

• Problems occurred despite: the opening of the city-run Resource Center, targeted enforcement despite signs that are posted on private property, handing out of flyers, handing out flyers, involvement of community groups and other efforts to publicize the center.

• The problem may be more widespread since the opening of two Home Depots, which are magnets for solicitation.

• In 2005, the Police Department issued 350 solicitation violations. In 2006, the number was 384. Number of calls for service to police regarding day laborers outpaces ability to respond.

• City is also overwhelmed with hotline complaints from residents and businesses.

[Bob]

For decades, city officials have grappled with problems associated with day-laborers.

You'd think that after decades, they would have figured out what they're doing wrong and found a better approach.

From the article, a driver was stopped for speeding after picking up some workers. He had neither a driver's license nor insurance. From all indications, he was allowed to go on his way after being cited. IMHO, he should have been arrested until his identity could be established.

[VOA]

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[nckerr]

[upchuck]

From the article:

"This is a problem that isn't going to go away unless we do something," says Mayor Carolyn Cavecche.

The solution, officials say, may be a part of a set of new ordinances they approved to forbid soliciting beyond a parking lot. This week, laborers will not be able to solicit for work from sidewalks next to streets without parking lanes, medians or driveways on a public right of way. In addition, private property owners must obtain permits to run job centers.

Hey Carolyn, I hate to tell you this, but your fancy new ordinances aren't going to do jack squat. How do I know that? Simple. Who are these guys? They are day laborers. And why are they there? Because they are looking for work. Imagine the situation of there were no jobs for them. Now, you're a smart lady. I'm sure you can connect the dots. Arizona did. Oklahoma did. Georgia sorta did.

[VR-21]

"And it gets frustrating sometimes when you tell them you can't be there and they're there the next day."

Apparently they understand us better than we do.

[gubamyster]

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