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Is Mitt Romney Conservative? (Gov Romney Supported Abortion & Gay Agenda with Judges & Boy Scouts)
CP.com ^ | 29Aug06 | Gary Glenn

Posted on 01/07/2008 6:18:49 AM PST by xzins

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To: fabian

See #38


41 posted on 01/07/2008 7:21:23 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Leisler

Exactly, not under my support (I’ll vote Constitutionalist first)!


42 posted on 01/07/2008 7:22:37 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: xzins; Servant of the Cross
Romney gets 1. This way he gets points for conversion.

Should we award points to a chameleon simply because he changes colors to mask what he really is?

He's not a convert to anything. He will say whatever it takes to get elected. He has no political compass. He is driven only by ambition.

Romney gets a 0 on everything.

43 posted on 01/07/2008 7:24:18 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: elfman2
This is at the website massresistance.org

Log Cabin letter

44 posted on 01/07/2008 7:26:02 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: P-Marlowe; Servant of the Cross
When you add up all the categories he's still well on the liberal side.

Did you see my matrix the other day?

45 posted on 01/07/2008 7:27:35 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Man50D

Just 2 points when ni am not american but an european(french) “conservative”.
1/Illegal alliens FROM CUBA and NICARAGUA in 1997 were not the same illegal aliens you have today...Seems that Fred was right on that point
2/About the right for abortion.As christian myself(catholic education)i don’t think one can completly ban abortion shamefully.The first big job would be on education and the fight against moral relativism...


46 posted on 01/07/2008 7:30:12 AM PST by Ulysse (fides quaerans intellectum)
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To: elfman2; rightazrain
Gay Republicans air anti-Romney ad

So much for that Log Cabin endorsement.

47 posted on 01/07/2008 7:30:43 AM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Ulysse
"But i didn’t understand clearly why some HUNTER’s supporters claim that Fred THOMSON is NOT a conservative."

There are no such things as "narrow minded" conservatives (fake ones) and "sensible intelligent" conservatives (the true one). There are only conservatives, semi-conservatives, non-conservatives.

I assume by your term "sensible intelligent conservatives" you would lump yourself in that category - no comment.

There are may others that are attempting to hijack the term "conservative" and as in pc America, that is done everywhere.

The so-called "sensible intelligent" conservatives are also called "pragmatic" and mean "since we can't get the votes on conservative ideas, let's split the difference with liberals.

That, my friend is NOT conservative, that is cowardice in the face of the enemy -- and liberalism is the enemy, make no mistake here.

Liberals are out to destroy the U.S., one election at a time!

Out of the bunch, Thompson's record is NOT conservative but does come much closer than the ones on stage last night and Sunday night, since Duncan Hunter was disallowed (why should any candidate be silenced - unless the media doesn't want the American electorate to learn of them and their ideas.

Thompson's own record in the U.S. Senate was NOT conservative but was MORE conservative than John McCain, who is a pro-life, pro-military (sometimes) LIBERAL!

You may speek of "sensible" and "intelligent" as others speak of "pragmatic" but these are code words for giving liberals half of what they want. They love it because today it's half, tomorrow the other half or at least one-third, and before long - it's the whole thing.

Why do you think that they have small splinter groups called "Baby Steps?" Those groups work to attain liberalism one bite at a time.

Sorry to completely disagree with you here in this friendly forum.

It would appear that you have chosen your candidate and regardless of the facts, prefer to call him a "conservative" - more conservative than others in front of the cameras, yes but has voted with liberals on McCain Feingold and not toally against illegal alien hires by corporationos.

48 posted on 01/07/2008 7:36:26 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: xzins

Answer: Yes.


49 posted on 01/07/2008 7:37:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: P-Marlowe
His father, George Romney, was CEO of American Motors, was governor of Michigan, and even ran for President, but interestingly was born in Mexico. I guess a little technicality like the Constitution is not going to get in the way of a Romney who is bent on becoming president.

You can be born in another country and still an American citizen if both parents are American citizens. As in the case of Army brats, for example.

50 posted on 01/07/2008 7:38:23 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Delusions strike deep.


51 posted on 01/07/2008 7:39:04 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Jack Black

His parents were not US Citizens. His grandparents had emigrated to Mexico due to polygamy issues .


52 posted on 01/07/2008 7:39:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: xzins
I just now looked up your matrix. I mostly agree with its rankings (maybe put Huck lower) and provides documentation for my reasoning to support Fred. I posted something similar (and with much less rigor) here (at post 13).
53 posted on 01/07/2008 7:40:42 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Jack Black

Correction: His parents were not US Citizens. His GREATgrandparents had emigrated to Mexico due to polygamy issues .


54 posted on 01/07/2008 7:40:46 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: rightazrain

Gays serve in the military. I hope that doesn’t make your head explode. The official policy of the military, which is supported by conservative stalwarts such as Duncan Hunter, is that gays can serve in the military so long as they keep quiet about it.


55 posted on 01/07/2008 7:41:21 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Servant of the Cross

I agree with you. That’s why I sent Fred some money yesterday.

:>)


56 posted on 01/07/2008 7:43:04 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

There is no “boy scout” thing, except that Mitt Romney actively supports the Boy Scouts, and even volunteered as an executive leader on the national board.

The Mormon church is very positively involved and supportive of Boy Scouts, with people like J.W. Marriot providing a lot of money and other support.

Mitt even in 1994 was fully supportive of the Boy scouts being allowed to make their own rules without government interference.


57 posted on 01/07/2008 7:45:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks. That’s the link that shows Romney supporting the Boy Scout’s right to exclude gays from leadership.

And which never mentions scoutmasters.


58 posted on 01/07/2008 7:47:02 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: zerosix
P.S. I will pull the lever for Thompson, should he be able to pull this one out of the jaws of defeat (as the media is intent on doing for him, though he is not "electric" on stage with other, clear egomaniacs)but I will never fool myself that he is "conservative." As in President Bush, he is conservative on some issues but not a CONSERVATIVE.

I'd be happier w/Thompson than the rest of that bunch of "moderate/liberals" but he'd not be a candidate for whom I'd gladly donate lots of money to nor go door to door to get elected, but who knows, I may fool myself and at least walk door to door for Pubbies again.

59 posted on 01/07/2008 7:47:40 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: JSDude1
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60 posted on 01/07/2008 7:48:43 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Mitt willingly gives up his personal freedoms to his church..why would he protect YOURS!)
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