Rahm Emmanuel you magnificent bastard!
Posted on 01/10/2008 1:06:00 AM PST by LibWhacker
Rats may have produced the poster, but security researchers have been after Diebold for a while over the incompetent design of security in these voting machines.
I don’t know about anyone else, but if I saw anyone even trying to move a voting machine, I’d protest immediately and loudly, drawing as much attention as I could to them.
I think most would.
Unless the ones doing this are the Democrat party operatives who run your country.
Where’s the pic of a laughing Karl Rove?
“FYI, all the Diebold voting machines run Windows CE.”
Windows CE!!!!! Ok now I am on board we need to go back to paper hand counted ballots.
Do you think in a mostly democrat district they won’t help? Something similar to this happens all the time in the Philadelphia area. You have way too much faith in your fellow Americans.
He can't do that publicly because it would paint him as this year's "SoreLoserman". Besides, he probably tried the same tactic - - did you see those numbers on the rat side?
THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, THIS IS ABOUT A GROUP OF PRIVATE BUSINESSMEN, AFFLUENT GOVERNMENT APPOINTEES, AND POLITICIANS AND INFLUENCE PEDDLERS SYSTEMATICALLY DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY'S ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
Do not make FR look like a forum of fools by making simplistic and utterly wrong partisan snipes about these revelations of purposefully designed failures built into Diebold machines.
Uh... yeah, sure. Okay.
There’s supposed to be somebody from each side. It’s not faith, it’s knowing that the plan as outlined in that flier is stupid. If nothing else resident crooks might get annoyed when a dumb crook tries this, some crooks do still have pride in their craftsmanship.
I would do that, and I would gladly go to jail for whooping his butt if that’s what was necessary.
there seems to be a pattern in hand counted votes vs machine counted - and it favored Mitt and Clinton - Obama and Huckabee were the consistent losers when votes counted by machine.
Also some indication that the contractor for the machines has some felony arrests.
Take it for what its worth - not the most reliable site but there was also the discrepency with the exit polls and that seldom happens.
http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php?party=DEMOCRATS
There is over 1,000 pages of documentation regarding the vulnerabilities of this system. Court and affidavit testimony by experts.
Like all events in the realm of sensational politics, the real researchers were very early on swamped by the crazies and conspiracy theorists. If you can get back to the researchers actual research papers and the sworn court testimony they gave in hearing to various elections officials public inquests, you can get to the meat of it. Diebold purposefully lobbied for and marketed a faulty product so they would have a recurring revenue stream due to required hardware upgrades to replace their POS early models. In any other computer hardware industry segment, Diebold would be sued for 100% of cost plus costs related to replacing faulty machinery plus lawyer fees. And Diebold will probably be able to once again lobby itself out of this situation without paying a dime, worse yet, they will still get new business for their 3rd generation electronic voting machines.
Bottom line: computerized voting machines make it easier to vote and much, MUCH harder for the average person to 'fix' an election.
I respond it's better to not start this cat and mouse game, soon enough only a very small minority of the population would ever have an inkling of an idea if the elections are being altered by electronic means. In the old Democrat machinery, it was a open secret that the machinery was stealing elections. In 20 years no one but a few self selecting experts will have any way to even test to see if an election is being tampered with.
The voting machines here in Pennsylvania are great. You toggle in all your votes with small manual switches and then pull a larger lever to open the curtain and register your votes. It’s all mechanical.
Well, meow. My original assertion remains with one addition, we must ensure the computer systems are proofed against: stupidity, laziness and tampering. Computer security is a proven field at this point, we just have to be certain the voting systems are presided over by a bi-partisan - competent - GROUP.
While I agree somewhat with your wariness, the simple fact is : computers are going to play a growing role in our everyday lives. Already, they are in everything from our electric shavers to our automobiles. Knowing this, one question remains; if we cannot trust the people we assign to the odious task of maintaining and controlling the devices required to take and tally the ballots, certainly, we can't trust those same people for the paper ballots.
Aside from the ease of use, the celerity at which the votes can be tabulated and forwarded on to whatever collective entity will be used to compile all the results and the security (ideally) there are few drawbacks.
Electronic voting may not be perfect, but it is 100% preferable to hanging chads, no?
Here in Delaware, the machines vote for Democrats, regardless of how the voters vote.
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