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Human Events endorses Fred Thompson
Human Events ^ | 1-11-08 | Editors

Posted on 01/11/2008 2:51:20 AM PST by PosterQue

We begin by recalling the profound words of Ronald Reagan at the Conservative Political Action Conference Feb. 15, 1975: “A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.” We believed that then, and we believe it now. The issue for us -- and for the conservative community -- boils down to which of the candidates is most representative of the fundamental conservative principles we believe in. The answer is Fred Thompson.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee
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Is this the big endorsement?
1 posted on 01/11/2008 2:51:21 AM PST by PosterQue
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To: PosterQue

This isn’t big.


2 posted on 01/11/2008 2:54:47 AM PST by Rudder
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To: PosterQue
That is a strong endorsement. Fred may be a serious factor yet. Today was far and away his best. What remains to be seen, will he truly catch fire, or is this just a flare up, with the majority of Republicans.
3 posted on 01/11/2008 2:56:00 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: PosterQue

I sure hope our friends in South Carolina bring Fred to the front. Looks like it may be our last chance for any worthwhile candidate other than Duncan Hunter, who is almost unnoticed by the media. (mainstream or otherwise)


4 posted on 01/11/2008 3:00:35 AM PST by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
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To: PosterQue

But it is better than a JFKerry endorsement...more to come.


5 posted on 01/11/2008 3:22:51 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

Fred helped himself last night,but I’m afraid Huck and Fred are going to take enough real conservative and liberal Christian votes so as to give our state to McCain with a plurality.A big majority of SC Republicans can’t stand McCain but their votes will be split.
This is McCain’s latest effort to destroy the power of conservative Republicans.
Planned it all along.


6 posted on 01/11/2008 3:27:48 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

Fred helped himself last night,but I’m afraid Huck and Fred are going to take enough real conservative and liberal Christian votes so as to give our state to McCain with a plurality.A big majority of SC Republicans can’t stand McCain but their votes will be split.
This is McCain’s latest effort to destroy the power of conservative Republicans.
Planned it all along.


7 posted on 01/11/2008 3:27:59 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: PosterQue
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.”

Tells you how he would look at the four RINOs who were littering the stage of the debate last night.



U.S. Army Retired


8 posted on 01/11/2008 3:33:08 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Happy Rain

Could Fred and Huck make a deal against Mc Cain?
Unless HUCK is a Mc Cain troll to divide christian conservatives


9 posted on 01/11/2008 3:48:08 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: Happy Rain

Thompson was more animated than I have ever seen him. That is the good part, but to be honest I was disappointed in him.

Fred Thompson always projected the aura of “Elder-Statesman” to me (Kind of a Ben Franklin-type or any other person of “perceived authority”).

Last night, he came across as weak to me.

Not that his attack was weak, but because he felt the need to attack. (in this case Huckabee)

He is saying “The only way for me to win is to make Huckabee weaker”. By the end of the debate, it was becoming old, because it looked like his entire message was “Huckabee = bad”. He wasted time on Huckabee, when he should have been talking about his own record/position, since up to now nobody had ever heard it (from him). If he had stopped after the first couple of Huckabee attacks, he would have been better, and left Huckabee worse. (NOTE: I say this as a Huckabee supporter)

He did himself no favors, except to enthuse the people that were supporting him anyway.

That’s my opinion; others may differ


10 posted on 01/11/2008 3:52:32 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: PosterQue

One of many to come. This is the time we will all remember as the beginning. Just because a bunch of other fools have been running around the block for months doesn’t mean they started the race. The game begins at the same time it always has; not at the pep rally, but when the clock starts, and this is the kick-off.


11 posted on 01/11/2008 3:55:36 AM PST by Laurita (Fence sitters are easier to pick off.)
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To: Ulysse
Could Fred and Huck make a deal against Mc Cain? Unless HUCK is a Mc Cain troll to divide christian conservatives

There is at least an unspoken agreement that Huck won't interfere too heavily where he is weak (e.g. northeast, west coast). Huckabee and Thompson are largely competing for the same votes. With Romney retreating from South Carolina, McCain can be competitive if Huck/Thompson split the conservative Christian vote. I can think of no deal that Huck/Thompson can make that would be advantageous to both of them.

Huck has a path to nomination (win primaries in south & heartland, pick of delegates in other states), so he has no need to be a troll for McCain.
12 posted on 01/11/2008 3:58:47 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Rudder

It’s a good endorsement but it was over hyped yesterday on this site (surprised?). There were hints of an NRA endorsement or even a Rush endorsement so Human Events seems smaller in comparison. Maybe this isn’t “the big one” that was hinted at and maybe there’s more coming but if this is it, well... like I said, it’s a good endorsement, just not thunderous.


13 posted on 01/11/2008 4:02:21 AM PST by rhombus
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To: big'ol_freeper

Huck on Morning Joe...said Fred forgot to take his Metamucil.


14 posted on 01/11/2008 4:04:05 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: RangerM
Huckabee attacks Romney, Romney attacks McCain and Huckabee, McCain attacks Romney. If you notice that is why they have gotten so much attention in the last debates.

Huckabee has been passing himself off as something he is not and in the process taking votes that would normally go to Fred. If Fred did not expose Huckabee's statements and former positions no one would.

I thought Fred did great and forced Huckabee to defend his positions and thats part of the game of politics.

Huckabee and McCain give generalities and when confronted on former votes or former statements they tend to have nothing to fall back on but accusations of negative campaigning.

Huckabee and McCain looked bad tonight. Its good for Huck to taste the real fire because if he can't get through Republican attacks how will he withstand the Clinton machine that know him so well.

I also agree with your tagline.

15 posted on 01/11/2008 4:08:38 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: RangerM
He did himself no favors, except to enthuse the people that were supporting him anyway.

That’s my opinion; others may differ

I beg to differ with you. I was in the audience at the debate last night sitting next to an "undecided" who really wasn't leaning toward Fred and after the debate asked me how she could get more involved in helping to elect Fred. She, among others, sitting near me were totally impressed with Fred.

16 posted on 01/11/2008 4:11:58 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Wake up sheeple! Huck is Jimmy Carter in republican clothing: well intentioned, but dumb as a stump when it comes to the world outside Arkansas. God help us if Huckabee gets the nomination.


17 posted on 01/11/2008 4:12:46 AM PST by rightandproudofit
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To: rightandproudofit

MSNBC is really slamming Fred and calling Huck a Ronald Reagan for how he is handling Fred’s criticism. Maybe voters do not watch the MSM:0)


18 posted on 01/11/2008 4:15:25 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: normy

Huckabee was on Fox & Friends this morning saying that Fred lied about him in his attacks and should have spent more time talking about his own record. I was shocked. Huckabee wouldn’t know the truth if it hit him upside his head.


19 posted on 01/11/2008 4:18:18 AM PST by publana
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To: publana
Huck is the one who lies about his positions. I get really tired of Huck and McCains whining when their positions are scrutinized. Jeeze Romney and Rudy have taken a pounding and they aren’t crying.
20 posted on 01/11/2008 4:21:04 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: publana

F&F also had some fool (I came in after they had introduced him) saying that Romney was the best last night because he was the only one who had the courage to attack McPain.

The MSM is out this morning in full swing to annihilate Fred.


21 posted on 01/11/2008 4:21:11 AM PST by publana
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To: publana
By the way, did he correct Freds supposed lies?
22 posted on 01/11/2008 4:21:42 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Ulysse
Unless HUCK is a Mc Cain troll to divide christian conservatives

Huck is central to the Rudy McHuckster cabal. The only question is whether he is closer to McCain or Guilani. There's a reason these three don't attack each other.

23 posted on 01/11/2008 4:21:44 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: normy

Of course not. They let it stand.


24 posted on 01/11/2008 4:22:22 AM PST by publana
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To: Rudder

A Ron Paul supporter would say something like that.


25 posted on 01/11/2008 4:22:48 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: PosterQue

It seems to me that all this Fred Thompson news is too little, too late. By now, no one is listening or hearing anything about Fred Thompson. He should have been more forceful last September when he finally made his announcement to run (after dilly-dallying around for about 4 months).

I actually prefer Fred to the others in policy and in demeanor. However, he seems to be off of the radar screen for the news media and for the voters. It’s a shame. I hope I am wrong about this, and he manages to make a surge, but I am not holding my breath.


26 posted on 01/11/2008 4:23:03 AM PST by Gumdrop
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27 posted on 01/11/2008 4:24:09 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: Ulysse
Unless HUCK is a Mc Cain troll to divide christian conservatives

IMHO, I think HUCK is a Democrat troll bent on destroying the Republican party.

28 posted on 01/11/2008 4:24:11 AM PST by madison10
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To: publana
What I have been telling everyone for weeks.

Their targets are, in this order:

1) Tancredo

2) Hunter, and

3) Thompson.

With the first, he is out of the race.

With the second, he is out of the debates.

And with Thompson, they will have him marginalized, soon.

One nice clean little cabalistic, exclusionary race with the four RINOs and one nutcase left standing.

Wonderful.

If I were you Fredheads, and I would go scorched earth right now, go for broke.

29 posted on 01/11/2008 4:25:30 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: PosterQue

That other magazine endorsed a rino. The real conservative mag made the real conservative choice.


30 posted on 01/11/2008 4:25:31 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: madison10

Exactly. The dems cross over to vote for him. They want HuckUsUp to be the Republican candidate BADLY.


31 posted on 01/11/2008 4:25:48 AM PST by publana
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I’m not saying “Nobody was swayed by Fred” last night.

I’m saying that I don’t think it is the second coming that so many are trying to promote.

Do you think that ripping into one of the other candidates (no matter who), makes Thompson look big?

It is one thing to critique all the others, because that is how you differentiate yourself.

BUT when you set your sights on the bogey in front of you (Huckabee), the bogey behind you (McCain) is going to take you out.

Like I said before, Thompson always had (for me) the aura of authority; a person above the fray; untarnished by the stain of “petty politicking”; almost larger than life (like Reagan), but last night’s performance brought him down to the level of the common politician.

This really hurt my mental image of him.


32 posted on 01/11/2008 4:27:32 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: Gumdrop
Too late? How is that? Huckabee shot up in a matter of weeks not months. I don't understand why people don't just support the candidate that fits their beliefs. This too late, unelectable seems like ploys from the Huck/McCain alliance.

Fred was 3rd in Iowa, over McCain. McCain won NH by getting the Dem crossover vote. Michigan will go to Romney probably. If Fred wins SC we would have 4 winners in 4 states with Fred winning the most conservative one with closed primary's.

33 posted on 01/11/2008 4:28:43 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: RangerM

<<BUT when you set your sights on the bogey in front of you (Huckabee), <<

Get real. Setting the facts straight is what has needed to be done and what Fred needed to do and he did it well, with just the right touch.


34 posted on 01/11/2008 4:30:24 AM PST by publana
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To: normy
Michigan will go to Romney probably

...or Ron Paul. Saw lots of signs for him in heavy Republican country yesterday.

35 posted on 01/11/2008 4:31:33 AM PST by madison10
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To: normy

They can’t say he’s “lazy” anymore, so now they’ve changed to too “late”. Fred has to be too something because the other candidates don’t hold a candle to the only conservative running.


36 posted on 01/11/2008 4:32:05 AM PST by publana
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Good endorsement for Fred...this was the magazine Ronald Reagan read quite a bit, I believe

Are we sure this was the endorsement Fred was referring to?


37 posted on 01/11/2008 4:32:30 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Duncan Hunter: The Man Who Should Be President)
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To: publana

Make that the only conservative left in the race other than Hunter that gets no air time.


38 posted on 01/11/2008 4:33:27 AM PST by publana
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To: PosterQue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdAm6UY4xOE
39 posted on 01/11/2008 4:33:47 AM PST by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: aj7360

It bothered me to see Fred have to attack Huck that way because it is not in his nature.

But he has GOT to do what he has got to do to win.

Sitting back with the attitude “they can take me or leave me” isn’t going to win him the nomination.

Hell, Fred’s an actor right? If he has to “act” to do it, then so be it. He has to convince the voters why he is THE best choice.

After he wins he can go back to the “real” Fred.. the mature and steady adult that we need to lead this country.. and world.


40 posted on 01/11/2008 4:34:50 AM PST by aj7360
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To: publana
I have noticed that too. For the too late crowd.

Iowa: Huckabee

NH: McCain

Michigan: Romney leading

SC: undecided.

Fred has not been lazy or too late, he wants to peak at the right time. If anyone is actually undecided about Fred and not just operatives supporting other candidates please consider the preceding chart.

41 posted on 01/11/2008 4:37:35 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: publana

You are missing my point.

He set his sights ON ONE PERSON. Ok, we get the point, Huckabee = bad, but what are you (Thompson) offering, and why aren’t the others better?

Even a Thompson supporter must admit that he has been less than enthusiastic in the past few weeks. Hell, MCCAIN has shown more energy.

This is my entire point, Thompson should have spread the criticism, and told everyone why he is better than ALL the others. Instead, he wasted time on one man (Huckabee), when his problem was differentiating himself from the WHOLE FIELD. He failed to do this, and now instead of bringing himself up, he brought Huckabee down (although I would dispute this), and now McCain can thank Thompson for his help.


42 posted on 01/11/2008 4:39:35 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: Happy Rain
Fred helped himself last night,but I’m afraid Huck and Fred are going to take enough real conservative and liberal Christian votes so as to give our state to McCain with a plurality.

I've thought the same thing and last night saw Thompson begin his demolition of Huckabee.

I hope that what I'm hearing and seeing that Thompson could be McCain's hatchet man to allow McCain in is not true but it makes one wonder.

43 posted on 01/11/2008 4:41:48 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: Ulysse
Unless HUCK is a Mc Cain troll to divide christian conservatives

Or it could be that Thompson, who is a close friend and supporter of McCain (Feingold), is the troll.

44 posted on 01/11/2008 4:43:11 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: rightandproudofit
Huck is Jimmy Carter in republican clothing: well intentioned, but dumb as a stump

Dude, settle down.

To compare Huckabee to Carter is a major insult and one that is ridiculous seeing that Huckabee is a sharp-witted, articulate speaker who is in a class by himself among the GOP hopefuls.

I'm not saying that he is better than they are but he is certainly better than Carter.

45 posted on 01/11/2008 4:48:26 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: A2J
I hope that what I'm hearing and seeing that Thompson could be McCain's hatchet man to allow McCain in is not true but it makes one wonder.

Well I have heard that Huck is McCains man to take away votes from Fred and split the Conservatives and the evangelicals. Who knows.

Whats probably closer to the truth is that Huckabee's rise has taken votes that would have gone to Fred. Fred is getting most of the social endorsements so his closest competitor is Huck. McCain is relying on electability and his service in the Navy. Those supporters know what McCain is. Huckabee has a record to exploit and uncover and until now most voters do not know that.

46 posted on 01/11/2008 4:48:55 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: PosterQue
Is this the big endorsement?

Its a good endorsement but not worthy of all of yesterday's hoopla, that, and the fact that the BIG endorsement is not supposed to happen until noon today, makes me think this is clearly NOT the one referred to yesterday.

47 posted on 01/11/2008 4:51:33 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Fred will crush the beast and send her back through the gates of hell.)
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To: publana
F&F also had some fool (I came in after they had introduced him) saying that Romney was the best last night because he was the only one who had the courage to attack McPain.

I personally saw it as a tie between Romney, Thompson and Huckabee.

McCain was ridiculous, claiming that he is some sort of Superman (Why didn't anyone ask him about his opposition to Bush's tax cuts or McCain/Feingold?), Guiliani was a long-winded blowhard, and Paul, while giving some very good answers, seemed to be so "blame America" it was pathetic.

48 posted on 01/11/2008 4:51:37 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: RangerM
Thompson and Huckabee are competing for primarily the same voters in the primaries (the southern, social conservative). McCain appeals for the more independent and moderate, strong national defense voters.

If Thompson contrasts himself with Huckabee for those voters, THEN he can begin to compete with McCain for his voters as the sane alternative to McCain.

49 posted on 01/11/2008 4:52:44 AM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: RangerM
This really hurt my mental image of him.

I'm not saying that it "made him look big" but it convinced some people that Fred is in this to win! It showed some "undecideds" that Huckabee definitely isn't a conservative - at least enough to do more research to find out Huck's record rather than just trusting what Huck has said about himself or what the local (typical leftist MSM) newspaper has been pushing.

The folks I talked to, prior to last night, just thought Fred was a nice guy but not passionate about wanting to be POTUS.

I'm truly sorry that your "mental image" of Fred is now tarnished. This isn't touch football - it's a full contact sport.

50 posted on 01/11/2008 4:54:06 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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