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After Iraq
The Atlantic ^
| January/February 2008
| Jeffrey Goldberg
Posted on 01/11/2008 3:55:22 PM PST by forkinsocket
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He went on, The Koran wasnt written by God, you know. It was written by Arabs. The Arabs were imperialists, and they forced it on us. This is a common belief among negligibly religious Kurds, of whom there are many millions.
To: forkinsocket
Just give Omar a 9mm third eye and forget about him.
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posted on
01/11/2008 4:01:59 PM PST
by
Farmer Dean
(168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
To: forkinsocket
Just try to imagine, say, Secretary of State Podhoretz briefing President Giuliani on his first meeting with the leaders of the Baluchistan Liberation Army, and it becomes obvious that we may be entering a new and hazardous era. He ain't kidding. LOL.
This article has to be one of the best assessments of the Middle East I've ever read.
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posted on
01/11/2008 4:19:59 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
To: Alberta's Child
Except it attempts to paint all conservatives as ignorant bulls in the china shop, which is utter nonsense from start to finish.
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posted on
01/11/2008 4:26:36 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: forkinsocket
My high school social studies,(World History and Economics,among other things, who was BTW, one strange bird, always used the Kurds as an example of a people who should have a country, but don't. He used them as a counter example to the Palistinians, who aren't a single people, and shouldn't have a country, and also to some extent as a counter example to the Balkans.
The Palis were a problem even back then in the dark ages, which stradled the '67 "Six Day" war.
That was before Mr. L quit teaching, opened a restaurant in a small town, and then went really 'round the bend. He had some holes in his background that led some to suspect he may have been OSS or CIA, but I guess we'll never know for sure. I will say he was quite pleased when I showed up 3 years after graduation, in my AF ROTC uniform.
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posted on
01/11/2008 4:40:54 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
I like Kurds & Jews in general like them. My Armenian boyfriend hates them, though, as they betrayed Armenians during the Turkish massacres.
One time he went to buy a car & the salesman was Kurdish. After finding out that he’s Armenian, the Kurd said, “Kurdistan, Hayastan* - brothers,” in an attempt to ingratiate himself with my boyfriend. He sneered & turned away.
lol @ our Middle Eastern ethnic hatreds!
*Armenia.
To: Farmer Dean
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posted on
01/11/2008 4:54:07 PM PST
by
phs3
(If you call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
To: forkinsocket
The article starts out with a description of a Kurdish interrogator as a man hostile to Arabs in general, and Arab extremists in particular. I ended up loving the guy, since he struck an Arab prisoner in the face with the Koran, and called Mohammed's mother A WHORE.
The author of the article; does he like or dislike the Khurds? He HATE them. And he hates conservatives.
And The Atlantic is a liberal rag!
The first page of the piece was the best...
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posted on
01/11/2008 5:06:36 PM PST
by
gaijin
To: forkinsocket
There is quite a bit of information regarding the Kurds history and their genetic relationship to the Jews. Seems they have a common genetic heritage. Google it up if you’re interested.
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posted on
01/11/2008 5:56:59 PM PST
by
saganite
(Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
To: saganite
Yes, I know. Jews, Kurds, Armenians, & Turks are of the same genetic ‘family’.
To: saganite
& Jews get along with all of them, Armenians get along with none.
To: forkinsocket
At this, the interrogator smacked Omar across the face with the Koran.
OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!11111UNO!!!1111
To: forkinsocket
Yes, I know. Jews, Kurds, Armenians, & Turks are of the same genetic family. And Arabs too. All semites. But "Jew" is today more a description of a religion and a culture, not so much genetic ancestry. Hebrews might be a better term
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posted on
01/11/2008 7:44:51 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
Yes, but Jews, Kurds, etc. are part of a closer cluster. Arabs are part of a more extended, Middle Eastern family. This wasn’t known until recently. The opposite was assumed.
In terms of culture, though, we are more related to Arabs. At least, we Mizrahim are. We were known as Jewish Arabs until coming to Israel. Also, our language is Semitic & not Indo-European.
Because of this, it’s hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that we’re genetically closer to Turks than to Arabs. Nothing against Turks, but we have so much more in common with Arabs!
To: El Gato
Oppenheim of the Hebrew University of Israel wrote that this new study revealed that Jews have a closer genetic relationship to populations in the northern Mediterranean (Kurds, Anatolian Turks, and Armenians) than to populations in the southern Mediterranean (Arabs and Bedouins).http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1626606/posts
To: forkinsocket
Let’s give the Kurds independence and let them claim Kurdistan.
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posted on
01/11/2008 9:57:47 PM PST
by
Wiz
To: forkinsocket
Maybe that Armenian was taught a biased history by the Turks about the Armenian genocide.
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posted on
01/11/2008 9:59:54 PM PST
by
Wiz
To: forkinsocket
Yes, I know. Jews, Kurds, Armenians, & Turks are of the same genetic family.
Which Turks are you talking about? The Kurds being named Turks in the South East?
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posted on
01/11/2008 10:02:13 PM PST
by
Wiz
To: Wiz
To: Wiz
No, he wasn’t taught anything by Turks. Armenians are taught that Turks massacred them & Kurds joined in because Turks promised them something (land, maybe? I don’t remember). This was a betrayal, because Kurds & Armenians are both enemies of Turks.
I don’t know if it’s true or not, but this is what at least some Armenians have been told.
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