Posted on 01/12/2008 7:02:14 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
DANDONG, China | The currency changer, brazenly plying his illegal trade in the Bank of China lobby, pulled out a thick wad of cash from around the world and carefully removed a bill.
The 2003 series U.S. $100 bill was a fake, but not just any fake. It was a supernote, a counterfeit so perfect its an international whodunit.
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How about printing 50 Euro bills? I have a few and those look very complex. Is it possible to recreate those?
It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if copy machines can call the FBI. Fifteen years ago I attempted to copy the cover of a piece of sheet music from the 1910s on a color copier. There was a pen-and-ink drawing on the cover, with lots of cross-hatch shading in it. The machine produced nothing but black sheets of paper. I was able to make copies by adding something like 20% to the size of the copies.
Anybody who actually wants to shut down the biggest counterfeiting operation of all time—it’s called the Federal Reserve.
I’ve never seen a Euro. My opinion is that a good printer could make money that would fool most. But you’ll never fool the Federal Reserve. I assume they have the equivalent to the Federal Reserve in Europe.
So if you want to buy a cup of coffee, probably. If you want to spend several thousand, no.
All money goes back to the Federal Reserve at one point or another and can be traced back to you. So eventually they will get you.
People always get interested in the wrong thing. It’s not making counterfeit that is difficult. It’s spending it.
The world is set up to only accept cash for small nuisance transactions. If you want to go to jail over $10.00 worth of Krispy Cremes and a double latte from 7-11 go for it.
Ever try to buy gas at midnight when all you have is a 100 dollar bill? Can’t be done.
Buy a car? Buy a house? Heck it’s hard to pay your electric bill in cash.
So ultimately it doesn’t matter how well you can produce fakes. You can’t spend enough of them to bother with.
My feeling (and this applies to all forms of criminal behavior) is that if you are willing to work hard enough to get away with the crime, and you are smart enough to get away with the crime, you’re better off getting a job. You’ll do quite well and can sleep at night.
The machine produced nothing but black sheets of paper. ...
Creepy. Now, I wonder if you scanned it first and then printed it that way if it would have done the same thing(?)
It has been known for a long time that one of North Korea’s biggest industries is the manufacture and export of US$100 bills. Vietcom Bank in Viet Nam advertisse that it will not accept US$100 bills. They circulate easily on the street without any discount, though.
It has been known for a long time that one of North Korea’s biggest industries is the manufacture and export of US$100 bills. Vietcom Bank in Viet Nam advertises that it will not accept US$100 bills. They circulate easily on the street without any discount, though.
You're kidding right. The govt cant even find it's own ass in it's hands. This would amount to the US govt financing the terrorists aimed at killing us.
Anybody else remember seeing the photos from (I believe) Beirut, Lebanon, in the aftermath of an explosion, and there were sheets of US currency blowing around the ground?
Mark
1. It actually is American banknote paper. Either stolen (in necessarily small quantities) or printed-to-order for the CIA or another government agency.
2. If it is actually a duplicate, this becomes a necessarily massive enterprise. Making paper -- especially specialty paper -- is a high capital operation. A foreign government would be the likely culprit. Or, less likely, a legitimate paper mill owned by criminal interests (with all the security risk that would entail).
Moreover, since their inception, xerographic copy machines have automatically reproportioned the original image, by a factor of about 2%.
That's why vending machines won't accept xerographic copies of bills.
Indeed, it was a necessary step for the copy machine manufacturers to avoid being prosecuted under the counterfeit laws -- wherein making or possessing the engraving (or reproduction equipment) is the underlying crime.
For example, you can use an illustration of U.S. currency in an advertisement...but you can't use a photograph. And it's not taking the photograph that is the crime, nor is printing the ad in a publication. It's the making of the printing plate.
The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea.
Please send me some samples of this alleged counterfeit money so I can run some tests. I’ll need about 1,000 samples to collect enough data to achieve reliable results. Please send the bills to:
“Mr. Smith”
P.O. Box 1000
Lagos, Nigeria
As soon as the results of these tests are done, I will send you an authentic copy.
Dan Rather, caught with a large suitcase full of the supernotes said they were fake but accurate.
A Georger is usually a member of Wheres George .
We enter, mark and spend bills and hope when someone finds one of them that they will go to the site and enter the bill.
I have only been doing it since April but I have 55 hits on 48 bills out of the 600+ I have entered. Most are from my state but I have 12 others, which isn't bad considering I spend most of them here in my town of less than 5000.
Question: Wouldn't the CIA already know the lines of contact between those nations? That is information that could be garnered (and easily so) using far less convoluted means.
Would they?
The Shaw? You mean Tommy the Shaw?
No wonder Styx made so much money.
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