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EXCLUSIVE: New York Times ‘Killer Vet’ Story Exposed as Erroneous by Pro-Troop Group
Move America Forward ^ | 01/14/2008 | Melanie Morgan - Move America Forward

Posted on 01/14/2008 4:15:04 AM PST by Impeach98

January 14, 2008 – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Mary Pearson: (916) 441–6197 or Email: mary@moveamericaforward.org

EXCLUSIVE:

New York Times ‘Killer Vet’ Story
Exposed as Erroneous by Pro-Troop Group

SACRAMENTO- Move America Forward (website: www.MoveAmericaForward.org), the nation’s largest grassroots pro-troop organization, today announced that after vetting the numbers cited by The New York Times in their Sunday, January 13, 2008 story, “Across America, Deadly Echoes of Foreign Battles,” it became clear that the Times had engaged in demonstrably erroneous and false reporting.

It took seven New York Times researchers to find 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in the United States, or were charged with one, upon returning home to this country.

The Times made the false conclusion that: “Taken together, they paint the patchwork of a quiet phenomenon, tracing a cross-country trail of death and heartbreak.”

The Times documentation of 121 potential killings out of more than 1.5 million veterans of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) and Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), divided by 6 years of conflict results in a murder rate of just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 veterans per year.***

That murder rate is far lower than the murder rate for the general population, demonstrating that the experiences of military service – including having served in Iraq and Afghanistan – actually made it less likely for returning veterans to commit murder once they returned home, than the general population.

Given a census-estimated population of the United States of 300,000,000 persons in this country as of October 2006, and FBI-compiled statistics of 17,399 homicide offenders for 2006, the murder rate of the general population was 5.80 offenders per 100,000 on average – and a rate of approximately 7.67 per 100,000 for men.

Since all but one of the veterans cited by the Times who committed a killing in the U.S. was male, the comparable rate is approximately 7.67 incidents of murder per 100,000 people among the general male population, compared to just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans (of both genders).

“It’s obvious that the New York Times has an agenda of undermining the missions of our troops in the War on Terror, so much so that they are willing to resort to demonstrably false statistics to support their anti-troop bias,” said Melanie Morgan, Chairman of Move America Forward.

“The slander of our troops and veterans by the New York Times is unfortunately all too familiar. We heard this kind of nonsense about our returning veterans from Vietnam. It’s the same insult, different war.

“Perhaps the shameful staff of The New York Times has run out of war-time secrets to publish for America’s enemies to read, because now they’ve resorted to an all-out smear campaign of America’s finest men and women, who have served this country bravely and with distinction,” Morgan said.

In place of hard data to support their premise, The New York Times was instead forced to devote almost the entire portion of 6,321 word hit-piece to anecdotes of wrongdoing by individual veterans.

The New York Times even went so far as to trace back the phenomenon of murderous veterans to Greek mythology to back up their assertions of their report.

“The real mythology is the reporting by The New York Times,” Move America Forward’s Melanie Morgan concluded.

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NOTE TO REPORTERS/BLOGGERS: Melanie Morgan and a delegation of staffers from Move America Forward have just returned from a 10-day trip interviewing U.S. troops in Iraq and Kuwait.

To schedule an interview with Melanie Morgan or the other members who traveled to Kuwait and Iraq including: Gold Star Mom Debbie Lee (mother of first Navy Seal killed in Iraq), MAF Communications Director, Danny Gonzalez, and MAF Deputy Executive Director, Mary Pearson, contact Ryan Gill of Move America Forward at: (916) 441-6197 or via email at: mary@MoveAmericaForward.org

>> You can link to this report, which is published at the Move America Forward website, at this location: http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/MAFNews

*** Note that the central statistical measure is how many instances of alleged killings take place per 100,000 Iraq/Afghanistan war veterans who returned home. The New York Times might argue that our statistics are incorrect since the 1.5+ million Iraq/Afghanistan veterans have not been home during the entire 6 years of the war (especially since in the early onset of Operation Enduring Freedom troops were just arriving into the war zone).

However, Salon.com reports that as of January 31, 2005 there were 1,048,884 Americans who had fought in Iraq or Afghanistan. One can then calculate statistics from that point onward. Let’s give the New York Times the leeway of saying their alleged 121 incidents of killings by veterans occured during just the three years that elapsed since that time to the present. The murder rate per 100,000 people would still be approximately 3.5 incidents of murder per 100,000 returning Iraq/Afghanistan veterans.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; dbm; iraq; mediabias; medialies; moveamericaforward; newyorktimes; oefveterans; oifveterans; troops; veterans
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To: Gritty

Wow... GREAT cartoon in #40. Sad but true...


81 posted on 01/14/2008 1:22:33 PM PST by nutmeg (Imagine Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama as Commander-in-Chief.... {{shudder}})
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Sorry, one more ping...

Check out the cartoon in #40 posted by Gritty.

82 posted on 01/14/2008 1:23:22 PM PST by nutmeg (Imagine Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama as Commander-in-Chief.... {{shudder}})
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To: The Pack Knight
I'd hold my breath for the NYT's retraction

I'd settle for a letter to the editor debunking their shoddy methodology.

83 posted on 01/14/2008 1:27:38 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Being an idealist excuses nothing. Hitler was an idealist.)
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To: Impeach98
A reasonably competent college sophomore would probably have asked this question, "How does the rate of homicides and fatal auto accidents among veterans compare to those among the civilian population?" And with seven (count 'em, seven!) researchers on the story, the Times would have had that answer instantaneously.

But that would have led to a story entitled, "Veterans Less Likely to Kill after Returning from War Service." And that story contradicts the hard-wired anti-military bias of the publisher and editors of the Times.

There is no salvation for a paper this bigoted, this journalisticly incompetent. We must, therefore, wait for it to fail utterly and to be bought up by a more successful media outlet.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "License? We Don't Need No Steenkin' License!"

A Freeper in Congress? Please act now.

84 posted on 01/14/2008 1:32:21 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Wolverine
You are barking up the wrong tree. The Times has a high proportion of male homosexuals on their staff. So, they don’t have wives to beat. However, that group has a high level of “abuse of partners,” drugs and alcohol use. LOL.

John / Billybob

85 posted on 01/14/2008 1:35:21 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Impeach98

bump


86 posted on 01/14/2008 2:12:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Whatever enables us to go to war, secures our peace." —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Impeach98

I think Winds of Change busted it out of the box as well... one of the milblogs, it was beautiful. We have to make sure it gets out.


87 posted on 01/14/2008 2:35:01 PM PST by AliVeritas (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: Impeach98; Interesting Times; STARWISE; Seadog Bytes; SandRat; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet

The maggot infested gay mafia which controls the NY Slimes from the top down, did the same thing with our Nam Vets.

Now they can’t get by with sliming and lying about our WOT vets.


88 posted on 01/14/2008 3:15:58 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave; Impeach98; Interesting Times; STARWISE; Seadog Bytes; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet

Too bad the Sedition Act is no longer in force.


89 posted on 01/14/2008 3:19:38 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Impeach98; RaceBannon; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; ...

Please read and send to everyone on your e-mail list and call every talk show host you know.


90 posted on 01/14/2008 5:40:15 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Impeach98; RaceBannon; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; ...

Please read and send to everyone on your e-mail list and call every talk show host you know.


91 posted on 01/14/2008 5:40:47 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2ndClassCitizen; 2SterlingConservatives; ...

Ping to the D.C. Chapter Master ping list.

Thanks Race for ping us and showing the Slimes are at it again.

FYI, Fox News was reporting the same numbers as MoveAmericaForward, but without giving them credit.

[Mr] T


92 posted on 01/14/2008 5:51:59 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: RaceBannon; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2ndClassCitizen; 2SterlingConservatives; ...

Ping to the D.C. Chapter Master ping list.

Thanks Race for ping us and showing the Slimes are at it again.

FYI, Fox News was reporting the same numbers as MoveAmericaForward, but without giving them credit.

[Mr] T


93 posted on 01/14/2008 5:52:30 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: trooprally

So much for a slow responding computer.


94 posted on 01/14/2008 5:53:44 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Impeach98; RaceBannon; StarCMC; Cannoneer No. 4; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; ...

PingPingPing


95 posted on 01/14/2008 6:28:20 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: I_Like_Spam

“If one accepts the premise of the article, that combat experience somehow leads to homicide, the late 1940’s when the WWII vets returned would have had to have been an extraordinarily violent era as there were many times the number of young combat vets on the streets then as opposed to now.”
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I remember in “Up Front with Bill Mauldin” the “Willie & Joe” creator’s first collection published while the war was still on, he got good and worked up in one essay after reading stateside editorials postulating that the streets and booby-hatches would soon be filled with shell-shocked veterans stuck in kill mode. He made it clear that an aversion to casual brawling was the mark of a soldier who had actually BEEN in combat.


96 posted on 01/14/2008 6:47:54 PM PST by sinanju
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To: I_Like_Spam

Although, it does seem that the very first generation of outlaw bikers in the late forties were supposed to be disaffected WWII vets. Or at least that’s how they liked to see themselves...


97 posted on 01/14/2008 6:52:07 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Madame Dufarge

**lol**


98 posted on 01/14/2008 6:52:38 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: SandRat; Grampa Dave
Too bad the Sedition Act is no longer in force.

The Press is forever immune under our Constitution......and I'm not about to change the Constitution. But not a cent of mine goes to any paper that prints false and seditious articles or any other paper that runs articles from their newswire. Advertisers be aware.

(Same goes for Hollywood.)
99 posted on 01/14/2008 6:57:20 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for the ping. Another bump to expose the methods of TRAITORS.


100 posted on 01/14/2008 7:06:02 PM PST by PGalt
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