if i can see or hear you... it's NOT private!!!
Posted on 01/16/2008 4:21:05 PM PST by wagglebee
MINNEAPOLIS, January 16, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The American Civil Liberties Union is arguing that men who have sex in public washrooms should be protected under court rulings guaranteeing privacy.
On Tuesday, the ACLU filed an amicus brief to the Minnesota 4th District Court citing a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling 38 years ago that found that people who have sex in closed stalls in public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of privacy."
The brief was filed in defence of Republican Senator Larry Craig who was arrested and charged with lewd conduct in June 2007.
ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said, "The real motive behind secret sting operations like the one that resulted in Sen. Craig's arrest is not to stop people from inappropriate activity. It is to make as many arrests as possible - arrests that sometimes unconstitutionally trap innocent people." Solicitation for private sex is protected speech under the First Amendment, the ACLU argues.
Romero wrote, "If the police really want to stop people from having sex in public bathrooms, they should put up a sign banning sex in the restroom and send in a uniformed officer to patrol periodically. That works."
But Patrick Hogan of the Metropolitan Airports Commission said Monday that Craig's arrest and at least 41 similar arrests were made lawfully. "Engaging in public sex in a bathroom is a crime and most people understand that without putting up a sign," Hogan said.
"We saw a lot of communication about this particular bathroom on Web sites, and if we make it known that we're aware of it we can't be expected to enforce the law as effectively."
Hogan added, "We believe the charges fit the crime and Sen. Craig agreed to the charges as part of plea negotiations."
Craig, widely regarded before his arrest as a family-values conservative, was arrested for lewd conduct in a men's bathroom on June 11, 2007. He pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct on August 8, 2007.
The ACLU's defence of homosexual sex in public will come as no surprise to those who have followed its years of work as one of the strongest supporters of the homosexual movement. It has also been in the forefront of the perennial efforts by secularists and the hard left to ban public displays of Christianity, particularly at Christmas. Nativity scenes and the Ten Commandments, mentions of God or Christian themes in public speeches at schools and colleges, and the teaching of alternatives to Darwinian theory have all come under attack from the organisation.
A movement opposing the anti-Christian and anti-family work of the ACLU is gaining steam in the US.
In 2006, the American Legion, the largest veterans organization in the US, called on the government to stop funding the ACLU's efforts to abolish traditional expressions of Christianity. District 21 Commander Rees Lloyd, on behalf of the Legion, testified to the Senate in support of a bill that would remove the power to award taxpayer-paid attorney fees to the ACLU.
"Benevolently intended fee provisions are being used as a bludgeon against public entities to surrender to ACLU's demands, and being used to obtain profits in the millions."
Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
American Legion Urges Senate to Protect Public Expression of Religion
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06080307.html
ACLU Founder a Communist Ideologue Bent on Uprooting Judeo-Christian Foundation of America
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/sep/05092102.html
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I heard that ACLU prefers all of its deliveries in the rear. :)
So the American Criminal Liberties Union apparently does not believe that lewd conduct in a public place, is not a crime. A lot of states will have to amend their penal codes, should this come to pass.
should read:
“So the American Criminal Liberties Union apparently does not believe that lewd conduct in a public place, IS a crime.”
The ACLU is promoting all the wrong ideas. May they die of aids.
Good to see the ACLU take a wide stance on the topic...
penal codes indeed.
As for public restrooms being public places, that is partially true. The stall is a private place, or I would hope so. Even still, it is a place provided for potty and poo, not for sex. CLEARLY!
The American Civil Liberties Union is arguing that men who have sex in public washrooms should be protected under court rulings guaranteeing privacy.
Seriously, is it some kind of game for the ACLU to see just how absurd they can make their lawsuits, and just how much they can get away with?
Which makes perfect sense to the ACLU.
Contorting into pretzels over public displays of Christianity...but public displays of sex, by any group is hunky dory.
The ACLU is kinda like the U.N.
Absolutely a worthless drain on our society.
Has anyone done a background check on Romero? He has had some interesting affiliations.
if i can see or hear you... it's NOT private!!!
You’re right, the stall is private, but would you want to take a young child to the restroom and have to explain the disgusting noises coming from the next stall?
This will go down in the anals of ......
One of my former bosses will be so pleased...
Absolutely not. If I didn’t make that clear I’m very sorry. I think their position is APPALLING!!!!! I was just trying to formulate the argument in my mind. We have to address it head on if we want to fight this.
ACLU: defending the indefensible
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