Posted on 01/16/2008 7:53:37 PM PST by Tramonto
Giuliani, Romney and Thompson are the only true conservatives? This seems like an odd grouping of candidates. Most FReepers agree that Thompson is conservative but most also know that Giuliani is a liberal. A majority think that Mitt Romney was a liberal and became a conservative just to run for POTUS. Does it seem crazy to anyone else that all the talk radio hosts keep claiming that each one of these are acceptable and good candidates? Why is it that almost every FReeper disagrees with Rush, Sean, Levin,.. that Giuliani would be a good candidate? Are they wrong or is FR wrong?
Something isn't right here. I am one who has thought that there is a concerted effort by the 'conservative' media to get Mitt Romney elected. I know that recently, Rush and the others have been promoting Fred but they don't really distinguish him too much from Romney and Giuliani. We know that Anne Coulter thinks that Huckabee and Thompson are jokes and I assume that she supports Mitt or Rudy as well.
I don't think that Rush or the others like Thompson or want him to win. Right now, they need him to take out Huckabee so that he doesn't get momentum going into Florida and super Tuesday. I can understand that Fred Heads welcome the support their guy has been getting recently but is it just a way to get Mitt nominated?
Back in November and December, I don't remember ever hearing good things about Thompson on the radio. It was only when he was down and out without a chance of winning that the talk show hosts started pushing him.
My question for all of you is what did anyone in the 'conservative' media say or do to defend Fred Thompson when Anne Coulter attacked him and called him Fred Sawyer?
Does it seem odd that the 'conservative' media keeps lumping Giuliani, Romney and Thompson together?
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Fred = great
Mitt = good
Rudy = acceptable
McCain or Huckabee = NO. If either one of these two boobs is on the ballot in November, they’re not getting my vote, no matter who they’re running against.
I will retire and move to Mexico.
All the talk radio hosts know they will be off the air and looking for work if a Democrat is elected President in ‘08. If that isn’t the first order of business for the Democrat Congress, it won’t be far down their list of “to-do’s.” That’s why they have to try to direct their listeners to the candidates that have a chance of winning, but believe me, no matter who is the Republican nominee, they will be flacking for him big time and trying to get everyone enthused and on the reservation and not voting 3rd party. They will all fall madly in love with Huckabee or whoever gets the nomination because their lucrative living is on the line.
They are in the bag for Romney AKA Bush44. Rooty is their escape hatch if Myth flunks lunch. I have not heard El Flushbo even mention the abortion loving, gun grabbing, cross dressing LIB from NYC. The silence is deafening. You would think that he would be getting hammered almost as much as McLame or Mike Huckabee. Hmmm.
“Are you kidding?
BTW, Rush has all but flat out endorsed Fred.”
Just a few days ago someone posted a Rush monologue about how the media was picking on the true conservatives in the race - and he named Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson specifically.
Good grief. Giuliani and Romney are liberals. Anyone claiming either is a conservative based on their records is ignorant or a liar. Proof available upon request.
Romney campaign has the best support you can buy (and it buy access and support, in some cases, to media outlets/figures).
But, very little grassroots support.
Hunter > conservative than Thompson,
Thompson > conservative than Romney,
Romney > conservative than Guiliani,
Guiliani > conservative than McCain
McCain > conservative than Hucklebee (at least on some things)
Hucklebee > conservative than Hillary
Hillary > conservative than Edwards (and more corrupt than all combined)
Edwards > conservative than Obama
Obama > conservative than Kuchinich
Rush and most people who are paying close attention know that:
- Hunter doesn’t have a prayer,
- Thompson is an extremely long-shot who rarely demonstrates life or consciousness (unfortunately),
- Romney could conceivably win in the General,
- Guiliani would break apart the conservative coalition to the point that a Democrat would be more likely to win and many, many Pubbies would stay home and not vote,
- McLame would be worse than Guiliani,
etc.
I am strongly in favor of Thompson. If he can't make it, Romney is my fall-back option. If McCain or Huck is the nominee, I would hold my nose and vote R over D.
1. Fred
2. Mitt
3. McCain
4. Huck
Never. Rudy
The Republican party is afflicted with a string of Democrat candidates running way ahead of the actual Republicans. But the real situation will be apparent when we get to states with closed primaries. Choosing Republican candidates in open primaries is letting the Democrats have an inordinate amount of influence on who are the Republican candidates.
"True conservative" Fred - voted exactly like McCain on the first two items (of course you guys don't care when Fred does it), only avoided being tagged with the last two items because he wasn't in the Senate at the time, NOT because he ever came out and opposed them.
Lindsey Graham -- virtually exactly the same voting record as Fred, except to Fred's RIGHT on a handful of issues -- Clinton impeachment, human life amendment, and federal marriage protection being the most obvious. Lifetime ACU rating of 91%. Fred's is 86%.
Enjoy your kool-aid.
Giuliani is a strong defense Democrat with some economic credentials. Huckabee is Southern a Pro-Life Democrat. Romney is a manager running for a leadership position.
Why do you care what ANY media think? It’s this idea that you have to have “media” people talking about you is what’s wrong with people.
You let them choose your candidate? Did you vote for the Student Council President that was “more popular” because he was the captain of the football team or back the most qualified?
If the GOP nominates Rudy, Romney, Huck or McInsane I’ll be sipping whiskey on election day in November while digging my bunker awaiting the Liberal Facist administration of Hillary/Obama/Edwards since I can at least count on their actions.
Anymore “compassionate conservative” big government BS ala Bush and I’d rather at least get a Democrat because they don’t LIE about their intentions.
He spent his political career chewing up liberal orthodoxy and spitting it out - and I think that somehow, in some way, voters in Oklahoma and Kansas get that about him even without knowing the specifics.
His success in turning New York around wasnt merely a matter of changing policies. He had to sustain those policies when they came under deliberate, systematic and unrelenting assault by the citys liberal elite.
In case after case, he refused to accept the veto of liberal public opinion. He drove porn shops out of residential neighborhoods, even though his administration had to fight more than 30 lawsuits on the matter. He crusaded against bilingual education, a disastrous policy that had gone unquestioned in this city for decades.
And most important, he stood up for the police department against any and all attacks - which were incessant and incredibly unjust. The race baiters and their shills at the Not-So-Great Grey Lady talked as though the NYPD was engaging in genocide when the opposite was the case - many thousand of people are alive today who would have died if the NYPD hadnt taken on its newly aggressive posture under Giuliani.
Personally like RG because he has threatened to shake up the State Dept, saying “the era of cost free anti-Americanism has to end”.
LOL, and boy would I like to see those diplomats disgraced.
FT and RG are running the most conservative campaigns so far, obviously RG is not a social ideologue, he is rather agnostic, and tends to look at those issues in legal practical jargon, instead of ideology.
Those are the only two, IMO, who could/would/and want to battle the UnAmerican Democrat Party.
Mr. Giuliani is a leader, not a manager. It is what we need at the top.But his promise to appoint Strict Constructioist judges is a bit suspect. After all, he finds abortion in the Constitution.
Regardless, I understand the concerns.
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