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BREAKING NEWS: MAF Exposes New York Times for Erroneous ‘Killer Vet’ Report
http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/MAFNews ^

Posted on 01/17/2008 12:44:39 PM PST by chessplayer

The Times documentation of 121 potential killings out of more than 1.5 million veterans of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) and Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), divided by 6 years of conflict results in a murder rate of just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 veterans per year.

Since all but one of the veterans cited by the Times who committed a killing in the U.S. was male, the comparable rate is approximately 7.67 incidents of murder per 100,000 people among the general male population, compared to just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans (of both genders).

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; dbm; maf; mediabias; moveamericaforward; nyt; oefveterans; oifveterans; rkba; secondamendment; veterans
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1 posted on 01/17/2008 12:44:41 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Traitorous bastards


2 posted on 01/17/2008 12:45:45 PM PST by MattinNJ (I'm pulling for Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter-...but I'd vote for Rudy against Hillary)
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To: chessplayer

The NY Times is PATHETIC and treasonous. Hang Pinchy.


3 posted on 01/17/2008 12:46:46 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: chessplayer

Who in the hell reads the New York Times? Not me, that’s for sure:-()


4 posted on 01/17/2008 12:47:37 PM PST by geo40xyz ((Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT))
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To: chessplayer

thus meaning, if you join the military and go to war, you have less chances of killing someone back home. woo hoo!


5 posted on 01/17/2008 12:47:56 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: MattinNJ

You were expecting anything else?


6 posted on 01/17/2008 12:47:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: chessplayer

It must have many, many hours of research for the NYT to gather that statistic. Comparing that to the baseline of overall murder rates would have taken minutes.


7 posted on 01/17/2008 12:48:28 PM PST by AU72
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To: AU72
But that would have disproven the conclusion of the story.

Research method:

1. Develop conclusion.
2. Gather data.
3. Ignore data that doesn't prove conclusion.

8 posted on 01/17/2008 12:50:25 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: chessplayer
The Communists, er...Progressives, at the old gray ho are at it again. The will never win!
9 posted on 01/17/2008 12:56:06 PM PST by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: KarlInOhio

That’s pretty much it. Write the story, and fit the “facts” to prove the story. However, I see a pearl of hope here. Since the homicide rate for returning vets is much lower than the general population, we need to send EVERYONE to Iraq and that way, we will get the homicide rate of the general public DOWN to the rate of the returning veterans. (Take THAT NY Times)


10 posted on 01/17/2008 12:57:48 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: chessplayer

People! People! People! This is the New York Times we are talking about here. Who is surprised by this? Come on, a show of hands. Thats what I thought!

Remember the NYT tag line...”Do not let a little thing like facts get in the way fo a good story.”


11 posted on 01/17/2008 12:58:01 PM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: All; chessplayer

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NEVER FORGET

.

With Congressional backing of friend Sen. JOHN McCAIN:

Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christians in Central Highlands...

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/675016/posts

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NEVER FORGET

.


12 posted on 01/17/2008 1:02:08 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: KarlInOhio
Research method:

1. Develop conclusion.
2. Gather data.
3. Ignore data that doesn't prove conclusion.

I think you give the Times too much credit for work they would never consider doing. This is the way I believe they do research.

1. Stumble upon a research report.
2. Develop a left leaning opinion of that reports conclusions.
3. Write an article that totally misrepresents the data and supports the preconceived leftist opinion already in the writer’s mind.

13 posted on 01/17/2008 1:04:05 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: chessplayer

“All the lies that fits their tent!”


14 posted on 01/17/2008 1:04:44 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Okay, so you hate McCain...but you compound the lie of the NY Times by telling one yourself. McCain had nothing to do with Kerry’s tale.


15 posted on 01/17/2008 1:07:46 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: chessplayer

All the News that’s S**t to Print.


16 posted on 01/17/2008 1:07:47 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: meandog

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In year 2002 we Freepers called into Sen. JOHN McCAIN’s Senate Office asking the Senator to not support Sen. JOHN KERRY’s blocking the already House-passed Vietnam Human Rights Bill.

We were told, directly, that Senator JOHN McCAIN supported his friend Sen. JOHN KERRY’s blocking of that same Vietnam Human Rights Bill.

For...
...the Enemy is now within
...and always has been.

.


17 posted on 01/17/2008 1:13:54 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: chessplayer

I watched a little bit of O’Reilly last night and he said he would have a full expose tonight or tomorrow.


18 posted on 01/17/2008 1:18:13 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: chessplayer; All

THE KILLER-VET LIE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955108/posts


19 posted on 01/17/2008 1:20:14 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: meandog

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Today RUSH LIMBAUGH read a news story about ROSS PEROT’s take on JOHN McCAIN.

A very POW-Issue involved ROSS PEROT was asked to take care of a then POW JOHN McCAIN’s wife, after she had been injured in an auto accident. He did just that.

When a limping JOHN McCAIN was freed from captivity and came home to an also limping wife ..he ended up divorcing her in favor of marrying the present and very rich CINDY McCAIN.

Which gave JOHN McCAIN a financial base to run for national elective office with.

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NEVER


20 posted on 01/17/2008 1:21:10 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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