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BREAKING NEWS: MAF Exposes New York Times for Erroneous ‘Killer Vet’ Report
http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/MAFNews ^

Posted on 01/17/2008 12:44:39 PM PST by chessplayer

The Times documentation of 121 potential killings out of more than 1.5 million veterans of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) and Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), divided by 6 years of conflict results in a murder rate of just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 veterans per year.

Since all but one of the veterans cited by the Times who committed a killing in the U.S. was male, the comparable rate is approximately 7.67 incidents of murder per 100,000 people among the general male population, compared to just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans (of both genders).

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KEYWORDS: banglist; dbm; maf; mediabias; moveamericaforward; nyt; oefveterans; oifveterans; rkba; secondamendment; veterans
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To: chessplayer; All

SMEARING SOLDIERS(Who? The NYT. Who else!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954005/posts

This is the editorial written by Ralph Peters regarding the NYT’s smearing of war veterans.


21 posted on 01/17/2008 1:22:37 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: chessplayer
The left and MSM have been trying for years to make Iraq a re-run of Vietnam. Just as with Vietnam they are trying to convince the public we've lost, ignoring the truth of success on the battlefield. And they're trying to create a new false myth of the crazed war veteran.

They are just disgusting.

22 posted on 01/17/2008 1:25:36 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: chessplayer
BIG DEAL, DID YOU HEAR THAT OJ'S BAIL MIGHT BE DENIED???

( /sarc barely off)

23 posted on 01/17/2008 1:36:47 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: chessplayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955333/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954548/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954202/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954031/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953952/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953322/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952964/posts


24 posted on 01/17/2008 1:42:43 PM PST by Petruchio (Out to Lunch)
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To: chessplayer; All

FR sent this traitorous pablum to the meat grinder about 10 minutes after it was published...


25 posted on 01/17/2008 1:51:36 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: MattinNJ

26,000 people a year are killed by sober people just in car wrecks, alone. Over half of them by democrats.


26 posted on 01/17/2008 1:54:56 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I`d certainly never vote for McCain but I`ve always cut him some slack for what he went through in VN at the hands of those sadistic Cong captors.

The left have certainly been consistant in their hatred of our military.

That NYTs story just burns me


27 posted on 01/17/2008 1:55:41 PM PST by Harold Shea (Fred Thompsons the man for POTUS.)
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To: MattinNJ

Over 1.9 million non-smokers each year die compared to only about 400,000 smokers.

Most of them are old, crippled and democrats.


28 posted on 01/17/2008 1:57:09 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: geo40xyz
Who in the hell reads the New York Times?

Unfortunately, several million people.

29 posted on 01/17/2008 2:00:01 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Old Sarge
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's Britany doing today? Guess I'll have to tune into the networks to find out. /sarc.

BTW, is this a leading indicator that something bad is going to happen to our country, like when the MSM was all over Gary Condit and Chandra Levy?

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30 posted on 01/17/2008 2:02:44 PM PST by OESY
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To: Prokopton


Less than you think, and they are rapidly falling by
the wayside or using other paper to wrap their fish.

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31 posted on 01/17/2008 2:06:14 PM PST by OESY
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To: Prokopton


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32 posted on 01/17/2008 2:08:22 PM PST by OESY
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To: chessplayer
So NY Times people are liars. So, what's new?
33 posted on 01/17/2008 2:15:45 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: OESY
Those stats are of newspapers sold. The readership of the paper is considerably higher. Added to that is the on-line readers and the readers of NYT articles that are reprinted by newspapers across the Country and around the world. Their impact and influence is still very powerful.
34 posted on 01/17/2008 2:24:05 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
Granted, but a high percentage of readers are not true believers in their written word, IMHO.

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35 posted on 01/17/2008 2:29:21 PM PST by OESY
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To: OESY; All

That “+” next to USA TODAY bothers me a bit. I have ocassionally read that 6th grade rag and it just makes me queasy. My cats don’t even like it under their litter box.


36 posted on 01/17/2008 2:54:14 PM PST by junkman72 (just another day at the junkyard/time to buy another handgun(VA req.))
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
CLICK HERE for Ross Perot inspired myths of Vietnam.
37 posted on 01/17/2008 3:26:22 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: chessplayer

The numbers don’t make sense. The rate is 8.07 per 100,000 over the 6 years. This rate would be the average of the 6 annual rates...not a cummulative total. So they shouldn’t be dividing by 6 to get 1.34 per 100,000.

What am I missing?


38 posted on 01/17/2008 8:51:45 PM PST by repulican kwyjibo
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To: Harold Shea

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I appreciate your reverance for one who had to suffer captivity because of his having fought for the Freedom of others.

But the only ones I can give any slack to are the ones who were once Free, but who now have to suffer the daily captivity of living under Communist domination...
...with no hope breaking its stranglehold on them.

Having myself fought for the Freedom of others, I truly resent those here in America that still refuse to hold Communist Vietnam accountable for its denial of human rights within its own borders.

People like:

HILLARY RODHAM
BILL CLINTON
JOHN KERRY
TED KENNEDY

& one JOHN McCAIN

Thus, not one of them should ever be put in charge of protecting our own Freedom here in time of war..?

.

Signed:..”ALOHA RONNIE” Guyer
Veteran-”WE WERE SOLDIERS” Battle of IA DRANG-1965

(Photo Collection)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm

.


39 posted on 01/17/2008 10:57:52 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: OESY

Interesting - the most liberal papers - the Boston Globe, the Atlanta J-C and LA Times got hurt bad.


40 posted on 01/19/2008 1:40:09 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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