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The First Look At Hillary Documents
Captain's Quarters ^ | Jan. 17, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/17/2008 7:56:25 PM PST by jdm

Judicial Watch has tried to gain access to the records from Hillary Clinton's task force on revamping the American health-care system, and has been met with considerable resistance. After seeing the first batch released by the Clinton library, one can certainly understand why. In a press release from Judicial Watch earlier this evening, they excerpted some explosive passages within the documents, passages which will create some uncomfortable questions for Hillary on the campaign trail.

First, an internal critique of Hillary's plan marveled at the unprecedented scope of government control over a private industry -- at least in peacetime:

A June 18, 1993 internal Memorandum entitled, “A Critique of Our Plan,” authored by someone with the initials “P.S.,” makes the startling admission that critics of Hillary’s health care reform plan were correct: “I can think of parallels in wartime, but I have trouble coming up with a precedent in our peacetime history for such broad and centralized control over a sector of the economy…Is the public really ready for this?... none of us knows whether we can make it work well or at all…”

The other two excerpts paint the effort in an entirely new and darker light. First, Senator Jay Rockefeller proposed that the federal government conduct smear campaigns against the opponents of the plan:

A “Confidential” May 26, 1993 Memorandum from Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) to Hillary Clinton entitled, “Health Care Reform Communications,” which criticizes the Task Force as a “secret cabal of Washington policy ‘wonks’” that has engaged in “choking off information” from the public regarding health care reform. The memorandum suggests that Hillary Clinton “use classic opposition research” to attack those who were excluded by the Clinton Administration from Task Force deliberations and to “expose lifestyles, tactics and motives of lobbyists” in order to deflect criticism.

Rockefeller had allies in mind for this effort:

Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.”

Wow. Media Matters should contact Rockefeller to disabuse him of the myth of the liberal-biased press!

Some might wonder about the notion of the White House digging up dirt on its critics in order to shut them up. Of course, this memo came from Rockefeller to Hillary, and no one can say whether she responded affirmatively or scolded Rockefeller for his dangerous suggestion. We can say that the suggestion came up earlier:

A February 5, 1993 Draft Memorandum from Alexis Herman and Mike Lux detailing the Office of Public Liaison’s plan for the health care reform campaign. The memorandum notes the development of an “interest group data base” detailing whether or not organizations “support(ed) us in the election.” The database would also track personal information about interest group leaders, such as their home phone numbers, addresses, “biographies, analysis of credibility in the media, and known relationships with Congresspeople.”

Anyone remember Craig Livingstone and the 700 FBI raw-data files that the White House obtained illegally? The story broke in 1996, but the files got accessed in 1993 by the former director of the White House Office of Personnel Security. Judicial Watch sued over the case, attempting to uncover the reason the highly-confidential files were requested by the Clinton White House.

Even without that, the idea that the government should essentially spy on its critics as a means to extort their silence or to discredit them publicly is completely noxious. If nothing else, Rockefeller should have to answer for his proposal, and Hillary should produce her response to it. Voters should pay particularly close attention to this and remember how the Clintons worked and how they would undoubtedly work again if allowed back into the White House.

NOTE: Judicial Watch's website is down for some reason at the moment. I'll link to the specific documents when the site comes back up.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; corruption; democratparty; documents; elections; hildabeast; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryclinton; hillaryscandals; hillarysecrets; hrcjw; judicialwatch; shadowparty; socializedmedicine; stophillary; transparency; villainy
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1 posted on 01/17/2008 7:56:27 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Judicial Watch’s site is down? After posting evidence against the Clintons?

I’m shocked!


2 posted on 01/17/2008 7:57:51 PM PST by Loud Mime (It is easier to wash dirt off your hands than blood = Gladiator)
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To: jdm
the idea that the government should essentially spy on its critics

Do you think Daniel Schorr was on this list ,too ? Do you think I should buy a copy of NYT tomorrow to read about this stuff on the front page?

3 posted on 01/17/2008 8:02:15 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: jdm

Do you think the Judicial Watch website was “Vince Foster”ed?


4 posted on 01/17/2008 8:02:35 PM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: Loud Mime
It’s kind of interesting.

Barely a couple hours go by and a bus in Nevada loaded with casino workers injures 40 occupants. This, after Bill Clinton and Hillary are trumped by a judge saying the voting can occur in apparently Obama-favorable casinos to help casino workers vote.

It appears the Clintons try their very best to physically attack their adversaries.

Just ask the dozens of people murdered in their wake in the prior several decades...

5 posted on 01/17/2008 8:03:29 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: doug from upland

this one’s for you


6 posted on 01/17/2008 8:04:34 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Loud Mime
Judicial Watch’s site is down? After posting evidence against the Clintons?

It's slow, but up.


7 posted on 01/17/2008 8:05:46 PM PST by rdb3 (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: jdm
Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.”
8 posted on 01/17/2008 8:05:52 PM PST by kcvl
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To: jdm

And I’m sure we’ll be hearing about this on the Today Show, GMA or Morning Joe...

Have to wait for Rush to bring it up.


9 posted on 01/17/2008 8:06:28 PM PST by tips up
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To: NonValueAdded

Thanks, NVA.


10 posted on 01/17/2008 8:06:39 PM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Just ask the dozens of people murdered in their wake

Just guessing, but that might be a little tough to do.

11 posted on 01/17/2008 8:07:03 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Vic-tor-ee-in-Ess-Cee! I'm conservative and I'm with FRED©®™!!)
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To: All; doug from upland
A June 18, 1993 internal Memorandum entitled, “A Critique of Our Plan,” authored by someone with the initials “P.S.,...”

Whose initials could be P.S.?

12 posted on 01/17/2008 8:08:01 PM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: ConservativeMind
I didn’t hear about an accident. Tell me more Please.
13 posted on 01/17/2008 8:08:25 PM PST by ditto h
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To: NonValueAdded

Good stuff. I really would like it, however, if Judicial Watch gave Peter several of the millions of dollars it raised and never spent on his case.


14 posted on 01/17/2008 8:08:58 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: kcvl

I know, what a shocker. /sarc

And to think, this was 1993.


15 posted on 01/17/2008 8:09:16 PM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: ConservativeMind
The children of Waco suffered from Bill Clinton's rage. His followers gave him a pass.
16 posted on 01/17/2008 8:09:52 PM PST by Loud Mime (It is easier to wash dirt off your hands than blood = Gladiator)
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To: jdm

Senator Jay Rockefeller comes up in a whole bunch of nefarious ways.


17 posted on 01/17/2008 8:11:48 PM PST by mojo114
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To: jdm

Hillary will say this is not what she plans now or nothing and launch her flying monkeys to suppress this disclosure.


18 posted on 01/17/2008 8:12:45 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: jdm

Thanks for the post bump!


19 posted on 01/17/2008 8:14:12 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: jdm

Chronology of a Cover Up

Jan. 25, 1993
Hillary appointed head of Health Care Task Force

Feb. 11, 1993
NLPC demands White House open meetings

Feb. 16, 1993
White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum refuses NLPC request to open secret meetings

Feb. 24, 1993
NLPC and two other groups file suit

Mar. 3, 1993
Task force director Ira Magaziner lies to NLPC under oath

Mar 10, 1993
Federal Judge Royce C. Lamberth orders Hillary to open meetings

May 31, 1993
Task Force allegedly disbands

June 14, 1993
Washington Times reports shredding of Task Force documents

June 15, 1993
Judge Lamberth orders White House to stop destroying documents.

Sept. 22, 1993
Administration presents health care plan to Congress

Dec. 21, 1994
Judge Lamberth accuses Magaziner of lying and asks U.S. Attorney Eric Holder for criminal investigation

Jan. 6, 1995
Washington Post reports that Holder is under consideration for appointment to federal judgeship

Jan. 23, 1995
NLPC requests that Attorney General Janet Reno appoint special prosecutor to investigate Magaziner perjury

Mar. 3, 1995
Reno announces she won’t appoint special prosecutor

Aug. 3, 1995
U.S. Attorney Holder announces he won’t prosecute Magaziner.


20 posted on 01/17/2008 8:17:34 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland; holdonnow

<<< PING >>>


22 posted on 01/17/2008 8:17:57 PM PST by sono (I'm an optimistic realist. I look at the glass half full and ask: "Are you're gonna drink that?")
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To: kcvl

Jay Rockefeller, you are quite the scumbag now aren’t you...... this sounds almost ‘Nixonian’..... except that Nixon did not enjoy the advantages of a servile liberal media so eager to take its talking points from the current WH administration.

A forerunner of the infamous secret memo among the ‘Rats in Rockefeller’s staff on the Senate Intel Committee about how to use the work of the supposedly bi-partisan, supposedly patriotic Intel Committee to wage electoral war against Republicans in 2004 and beyond.


23 posted on 01/17/2008 8:20:32 PM PST by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT - REPEAT")
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To: jdm

Casino worker bus accident in Nevada late today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955460/posts


24 posted on 01/17/2008 8:29:23 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: ditto h

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955460/posts


25 posted on 01/17/2008 8:29:42 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: jdm

26 posted on 01/17/2008 8:31:58 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: jdm

Your tagline is demented - appropriately enough!


27 posted on 01/17/2008 8:44:00 PM PST by Redbob
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To: jdm

Hillary is a socialist...through and through. And it becomes more and more evident everyday!


28 posted on 01/17/2008 8:50:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: jdm
...passages which will create some uncomfortable questions for Hillary on the campaign trail...yeah, right......
29 posted on 01/17/2008 8:52:31 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: jdm

“Is the public really ready for this?...”

I think we would be stunned if we knew all the things these people have “ready for” John Q. Public.


30 posted on 01/17/2008 9:06:55 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jdm
I think it's still down. Older info from Judicial Watch is here:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://judicialwatch.org
31 posted on 01/17/2008 9:12:43 PM PST by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: tips up

I seem to recall Rush saying that the US knew more about the members of the Soviet Politburo that we did about the members of Hitlery’s Health Care Task Force.


32 posted on 01/17/2008 9:13:34 PM PST by benldguy
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To: jdm

“Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.””

All policy-news is managed, but it is nice to see someone spell it out for the true believers out there.


33 posted on 01/17/2008 9:22:07 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: LiteKeeper

“Hillary is a socialist...through and through. And it becomes more and more evident everyday!”

Socialists are way, way, way left people who feel its their right to take money out of your pocket.

Totalitarians/Communists seek to subject us all to absolute control, no options, no chance to choose.

The U.S. might just as well have Josef Stalin running for President on the Dim ticket.


34 posted on 01/17/2008 9:25:55 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: jdm
Whose initials could be P.S.?

Paul Star?

35 posted on 01/17/2008 9:32:50 PM PST by Hell to pay
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To: jdm
That person whose initials are "P.S." in that report probably is dead -- maybe fell off a bridge or tripped on a railroad track in Arkansas.

When Hillary "choked up" ("cried") when describing her plans for America -- Hillarycare was likely what she was thinking about.

36 posted on 01/17/2008 9:38:21 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: jdm
Keep an eye out for this guy:

Elian File ~ Dr Irwin Redlener Info -- Hillary Clinton Health Care Task Force -- Clinton Insider (FR thread from April 2000)

Here are a number of pieces about the pediatrician (not a psychiatrist) who is working for Clinton/Reno and 'advising" on the Elian Gonzalez case.

He was a vice-chair of the Hillary Clinton Health Care Task force. He seems to be very close to the administration.

-snip-

37 posted on 01/17/2008 9:42:03 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
And this is only the "first batch" of documents? Hoe-Lee-Cow. This should be a huge story, but it won't be. I look for Rush Limbaugh to be all over it tomorrow morning, and probably nobody else.
38 posted on 01/17/2008 9:45:11 PM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: jdm

39 posted on 01/17/2008 10:10:18 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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marked to read later


40 posted on 01/17/2008 10:33:27 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: kcvl; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SunkenCiv
Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.”

Now that is just real interesting.....

41 posted on 01/17/2008 10:48:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Of course. They already shape (iow, spin, distort, suppress) the news along the lines demanded by Senator Clinton and her coterie. Thanks Ernest.


42 posted on 01/17/2008 11:02:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: jdm

It’s kinda strange..this comes out and their site is down..

Weird..


43 posted on 01/17/2008 11:06:40 PM PST by alaskamomma
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To: doug from upland


VIDEO: Bill Clinton heated over Vegas voter lawsuit...

RAW: SHOWDOWN WITH REPORTER...

NYT THURSDAY: BILL CLINTON FEELING THE HEAT, LOSING TEMPER... DETAILS... DEVELOPING...

NV: Bill Clinton, Stumping and Simmering
The New York Times ^ | January 18, 2008 | PATRICK HEALY
Posted on 01/17/2008 11:03:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

44 posted on 01/17/2008 11:07:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jdm

When all Clinton’s papers, the both of them, are available, even the left will wonder how they avoided prison time. Nixon is going to look like Mother Teresa compared to them, before this is all over.


45 posted on 01/17/2008 11:13:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wonder if he is using cocaine again.


46 posted on 01/17/2008 11:28:55 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

AGAIN...?


47 posted on 01/17/2008 11:38:36 PM PST by oneolcop (Take off the gloves!)
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To: doug from upland
Cavuto had some psycho-Babble gal on his Business Show today looking at the tape and she was defending Bill as just looking tired and stressed out from the campaign...
48 posted on 01/17/2008 11:47:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jdm

bump


49 posted on 01/17/2008 11:58:50 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: oneolcop

There are several witnesses to his cocaine use.


50 posted on 01/18/2008 12:26:31 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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