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Vanity: Fred Closing Fast In South Carolina
1-17-08 | Me

Posted on 01/18/2008 2:48:30 AM PST by Onerom99

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To: PapaBear3625
Just to put the hair splitters arguments to rest, there will be some McCain crossover but the results will be negligible compared to 2000.

Just letting everyone know that a Fred or Romney victory here in SC tomorrow will only surprise the MSM, not us.

61 posted on 01/18/2008 6:27:22 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: codercpc

What you say may well be true, although I find it hard to understand.

To me, the Huck is about as attractive as BJ... he just exudes phoniness.

To me, Fred is extremely attractive, big, slow-speaking, serious and presidential.

But I’ve seen people on F.R. who claim Fred seems cranky to them, dour and so on. I guess beauty IS in the eye of the beholder.


62 posted on 01/18/2008 6:28:43 AM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: mcjordansc

Why Huckabee though? Is it the Baptist Minister thing, or do they buy all his rhetoric on the issues of immigration, taxes, WOT, etc and actually believe him, despite his record?


63 posted on 01/18/2008 6:29:25 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: mwl1

I guess there is no use trying to use facts on you, is there?


64 posted on 01/18/2008 6:30:17 AM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: altura

Haven’t people been saying that since Iowa and New Hampshire?
If McCain can win in South Carolina, then he can win anywhere.

I think Republicans are generally stupid and can’t think on their own.
One one hand you have those who follow McCain because apparently he’s “next in line” and “he’s earned it” and on the other hand you have those who follow Huckabee because their pastor told them to.

Either way, the it’s time to face the fact that GOP isn’t the party of conservatism at all.
Ronald Reagan was a Cult of Personality. People loved him because of who he was, not what he believed.
Anything he believed in would have become popular, because he believed in it, and he was popular. Now it will be Barack Obama’s turn.
That is about all I can glean from all of this.


65 posted on 01/18/2008 6:44:04 AM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: mwl1

Stop lying.
Thompson and McCain are like night and day politically.
You want to hold up Thompson’s support of one piece of legislation — which he says was a mistake — as some kind of ideological purity test?
There is no candidate who will ever meet such a test.
So why do you want to sabotage the entire thing?
Thompson is the best we have in the race, period.
And he is better than anyone we’ve had since Reagan.

He’s certainly MORE ideologically pure than McCain, Huckabee, Giuliani, and Romney.
So you’re not getting better, period.
So STFU noob.


66 posted on 01/18/2008 6:47:54 AM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: Onerom99

C’mon now. I recall you very clearly saying your sources told you Duncan Hunter was dropping out (at that bizarre press conference in New Hampshire).


67 posted on 01/18/2008 6:49:45 AM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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To: altura
To me, the Huck is about as attractive as BJ... he just exudes phoniness.
Yep.
Ask anyone a year ago who said "I didn't raise taxes in Arkansas, I raised hope" and they would have said "Bill Clinton" to a person. But no, it wasn't the Slickmeister, it was the Huckmeister.

Huckabee is such a phony, such a liar, so untrustworthy, he absolutely disgusts me.
 
68 posted on 01/18/2008 6:53:56 AM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: mwl1

Thompson supported McCain in 2000. He supported the McCain-Feingold bill.

So he is going to support McCain now?

Then I guess John Kerry is going to throw his support to his running mate in 2004, right? Afterall, running on the same ticket as Edwards four years ago is more of a tight political relationship than supporting a candidate eight years ago and supporting a bill when serving in the Senate together.

Kerry is supporting Obama? Nevermind then.


69 posted on 01/18/2008 6:53:59 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: codercpc

“His whole campaign has been predicated on the fact that he could dominate the south in the primaries, yet so far it looks like Huck is taking his voters.”

Yes. I thought Fred was talked into running because Hunter had been deemed unelectable, but With Freds name recognition and acting skills he would be a shoo-in. We already had a conservative who couldn’t win. Fred was supposed to be conservative and highly electable.


70 posted on 01/18/2008 6:54:28 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: snarkybob

I predict Fred with 24%+ in SC, and the way Huck is acting, I’m wondering if he isn’t in the tank for Fred!


71 posted on 01/18/2008 7:00:25 AM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs /Thompson/Netanyahu '08 / Yes you will vote against Clinton)
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To: mwl1

Your whole post is bunk. Trying to get votes for Huck by saying Fred will endorse McCain will not work. I guarantee you 99% of Fred supporters will NOT vote for McCain- or Huckabee for that matter.


72 posted on 01/18/2008 7:03:09 AM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: txflake; Huck

“I predict Fred with 24%+ in SC, and the way Huck is acting, I’m wondering if he isn’t in the tank for Fred!”

You could be right. I don’t know you so I don’t know what level of Fred Head you are. There will be Fred Heads here Sat after the polls close and the votes are counted who will be claiming victory if Fred manages to scrape a 4th place finish with his customary 12% of the vote. It’s all part of the plan... Fl is really the state where he’ll come to life, any day now the American people will discover all the drawbacks of(Insert Candidates Name Here)and then Fred will rocket to the top.....I’ve been reading it here for 3 months. On the night of the Iowa caucus I kept reading that Fred was going to surprise a lot of people, and then later claiming he clawed his way back to a surprising victory with a respectable 3rd place finish. That left out the fact that it was a virtual tie with McCain who hadn’t campaigned in Iowa at all. Then on to NH, where I read right here in this forum that Fred would probably surprise a lot of people in NH. That his supporters just weren’t being polled. Fred finished with 4%. He finished 2nd in WY where only he and Romney and Hunter even bothered to show up, and he still lost to Romney. What did he draw in MI 2%. Now maybe Fred can and will win in SC. It certainly is more to his strengths, but at the moment he’s polling a distant 3rd, and while that could easily flip and leave Fred on top, well I’m not going to bet the farm, or give up my contingency plan because a Fred Head promises that Fred will surge at the last minute and win. Freds prospects only look good if you’re wearing Fred Colored Glasses, and have already drank the Kool Aid.


73 posted on 01/18/2008 7:18:00 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: snarkybob

I don’t wear Fred goggles, and will drag my ass behind Romney if Fred fails. But I see momentum, and SC could turn it around.


74 posted on 01/18/2008 7:23:38 AM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs /Thompson/Netanyahu '08 / Yes you will vote against Clinton)
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To: snarkybob
Then on to NH, where I read right here in this forum that Fred would probably surprise a lot of people in NH. That his supporters just weren’t being polled. Fred finished with 4%.

Your "lies" are getting pretty pathetic. Fred did not get 4% in NH, he got 1%./sarcasm

75 posted on 01/18/2008 7:31:25 AM PST by codercpc
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To: codercpc

“Your “lies” are getting pretty pathetic. Fred did not get 4% in NH, he got 1%./sarcasm”

HAHAHA Sorry my bad. Are you going to accuse me of shilling for a RINO now LOL. The panic is starting to show and you can smell the desperation.


76 posted on 01/18/2008 7:34:39 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: napscoordinator

I was carrying some water for Huck on these threads when the Christian bashers were going too far but these push polls which apparently are not telling the truth about Thompson, and with no condemnation from Huckabee of them, kind of make me mute. That’s dirty pool and it’s played against one of your own, a Party leader before and after this election. Contrasting records is good and should be done by all the candidates in as tough a way as possible so people understand what’s at issue, but falsehoods in an autodialed push poll . . . yuck.


77 posted on 01/18/2008 7:37:58 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: NavVet

Very intelligent post. Excellent contribution to the thread. /sarcasm


78 posted on 01/18/2008 7:40:20 AM PST by mcjordansc
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To: Petronski

Good catch. I remember onerom saying his sources told him Hunter was dropping out as well.


79 posted on 01/18/2008 7:47:22 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: Greg F

I have strong feelings about that topic. I just love getting good insider information (who doesn’t, right?).

But I hate getting jerked around by someone who decides to just make shit up.

Pardon my French, but as I said, I have strong feelings on the topic.


80 posted on 01/18/2008 7:56:08 AM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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