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Fred update: He’s staying if he finishes third in SC; Update: Fred third in SC
Hot Air ^ | January 19, 2008 | Allahpundit

Posted on 01/19/2008 2:59:21 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts

Watch as the goalposts move before your very eyes, with less contested southern states like Georgia and Tennessee now the benchmark for voter enthusiasm.

Third in SC is very much a possibility, of course — but early indications from Carl Cameron are not good.

Politico says he sounds wistful on the trail today while the NYT seizes one last opportunity to snark. “Amen! Tell the truth, Fred! Amen!”

Update: Victory in defeat:

Over the past month, Huckabee first surged in polls of South Carolina Republicans, from fifth place to, for a time, a solid first place. Over the past two weeks, however, he has fallen behind McCain, largely for two reasons: McCain got a major boost from his January 8 New Hampshire win, and the struggling campaign of Fred Thompson made a last ditch effort to get on track here. While well behind and tied for third place with Romney, Thompson did make gains, and the data suggest that virtually every point Thompson picked up came out of Huckabee’s hide.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: fred; fredthompson; huckabee; sc2008; southcarolina; thompson
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To: elcid1970

Oops.

Oops.


81 posted on 01/19/2008 3:31:16 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: papasmurf

Are you kidding me? A hunter supporter jumping to Mccain? You are the one defending his position on the SC flag, not me.


82 posted on 01/19/2008 3:31:43 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Casper, don’t worry about all the digs. It isn’t as if this site is the only source of information for South Carolina voters. Thanks for the post, interesting info.


83 posted on 01/19/2008 3:31:50 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Rome2000

“Take away all of the females and homosexuals who are in love with WILARDS hair and Thompson is 3rd easy.”

Right, and if you take away everybody that voted for McCain & Huckabee, well then Fred is in 1st easy. LOL


84 posted on 01/19/2008 3:31:56 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: joebuck

Up yours, dip. :)

The point is the people were voting for him because they believed that he could and would do something.

Try to conceptualize the issue, would you?


85 posted on 01/19/2008 3:32:03 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm voting for FRed, even if I have to write him in.)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Why are they showing exit polls before the polls close?
That influences voters.


86 posted on 01/19/2008 3:32:10 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: SoCalPol
And McCain.

Everyone who has said McCain./Huck would be the death of the Republican party... is right. And I think the MSM wants that desperately.

87 posted on 01/19/2008 3:32:39 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: Graybeard58

Graybeard58 wrote: “If both Hunter and Thompson drop out before the Illinois primary, I probably won’t even bother to vote. It makes no difference at all to me which rino is the nominee.”

If this turns out to be the case, then go to the polls and write in either Thompson or Hunter. If it happens, I’ll write in Fred for president and Hunter for veep just to give the GOP the shaft. After all, that’s what the GOP has been giving conservatives ever since Ronald Regan packed up and left the White House for his ranch.


88 posted on 01/19/2008 3:34:00 PM PST by Josh Painter (First, the GOP became a big tent- then it became Democrat Lite.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Wasting time? Gee thanks. As a first time voter Fred's the only Republican I'd vote for in the upcoming election.

Well, voting is not a waste of time. It's a duty and bully for you for participating. But there's an awful lot of energy, time, and money being wasted on a dog who won't hunt--Fred Thompson. I'm hoping his loss tonite is devestating enough to put him out of our misery. It's a waste of time. He's got no chance. If people lower the bar for Fred any lower, he's gonna fall through the earth's core and wake up in China.

Can I assume by your screen name you're supporting the Hillbilly From Hope"?

No. I had my name before I ever heard of Huckabee. You see there's this book by a feller named Twain? And it's named after a character I really admire, a troubled kid who takes a ride on a raft? Ring any bells?

89 posted on 01/19/2008 3:34:00 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: bill1952
Hillary will beat Romney like a drum.

If Romney is the nominee, imagine the debate with Hillary. On abortion.

Hillary: I am pro-choice and in fact my opponent was also at one time.

On taxes.

Hillary: I opposed the Bush tax cuts for the rich, and in fact my opponent was also against them at one time.

On healthcare for all.

Hillary: I support and will fight for healthcare for all, just like my opponent did in Massachusetts. In fact he said the biggest difference between his plan and mine is that his became law! I welcome his support for my plan.

On gays serving openly in the military.

Hillary: It is time to end ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ In fact you Mr. Romney were all for ending that plan even before me and my husband. You were ahead of the curve and supported gays being allowed to serve openly way back in 1994.

On a huge stimulus package.

Hillary: I want to spend 100 billion in an effort to bring the economy back from this recession! My opponent wants to spend 100 billion over 5 years just on the automobile industry, so my plan is in fact a lot more fiscally responsible than his!

90 posted on 01/19/2008 3:34:51 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: pissant

What the heck are you babbling about?

I’m talking about you saying FRed stepped on it for not giving voice to their flag concerns.

I said nothing about McCain, and I wouldn’t say anything (good) about that traitor.


91 posted on 01/19/2008 3:35:46 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm voting for FRed, even if I have to write him in.)
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To: Huck

“Romney, McCain, and Huckabee.”

McCain and Huckabee don’t have a chance even if they get the nomination. The Dhim media is chomping at the bit to run negatives on them. And they probably wouldn’t have to make stuff up.

I’ll skip the Presidential section of the ballot if McCain’s name is there and maybe ditto for the Huckster.


92 posted on 01/19/2008 3:36:37 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: papasmurf

No, they were voting for him cuz he said he’d wouldn’t butt in. A promise he could easily keep. Observe the obvious.


93 posted on 01/19/2008 3:37:27 PM PST by joebuck
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To: rintense

Exactly! This is a sad election year.


94 posted on 01/19/2008 3:37:38 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
Fred will still be “surging” around here for the next few days. My advice is to play along until reality sinks in. Probably late next week, the first “Fred was just an entertainer” threads will trickle in. :o)

Nope, what will really happen is non conservatives, such as you, will manage to get a Rino liberal, such as Huck or Romney or, even worse, McCain, nominated and the real conservatives will either not vote or vote 3rd party thereby throwing the election to the Dems. Time to take our party back and if it means 4 years of Fat Butt Hillery, then so be it. I refuse to vote for a Rino, no more: I am drawing the line and refusing to go any further.

95 posted on 01/19/2008 3:38:50 PM PST by calex59
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Bye bye Fred and to all the FredHeads that will leave or be purged from FR like all those Rudy supporters in April 2007....


96 posted on 01/19/2008 3:38:58 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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To: SoCalPol

As Rush said, it took a Carter to get us a Reagan.


97 posted on 01/19/2008 3:39:31 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: Huck

Are you really that much of an imbecile or do you just play one on FR?


98 posted on 01/19/2008 3:39:37 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: RockinRight

You’re overestimating the intelligence of other people. Now do you understand?


99 posted on 01/19/2008 3:40:34 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: yield 2 the right
or be purged from FR like all those Rudy supporters in April 2007..

The Rudy supporters "purged" themselves.

100 posted on 01/19/2008 3:41:43 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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