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Where does a Conservative go?(Vanity)
My feckless brain ^ | Me

Posted on 01/20/2008 1:18:25 AM PST by TexasMatty

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To: Candor7

THE PROBLEM IN THESE PRIMARIES ARE THE INDEPENDENTS!

WHY DO REPUBLICANS ALLOW INDEPENDENTS TO INFLUENCE THE SELECTION OF THEIR NOMINEE?

KEEP INDEPENDENTS OUT OF THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES!

IT IS POLITICAL SUICIDE.

sory for yelling.


61 posted on 01/20/2008 2:14:27 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The media have picked our candidates before most of us have even been allowed to vote.


62 posted on 01/20/2008 2:26:29 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Erik Latranyi
LOL. Independents are sometimes a problem.

But the real problem is the interface between the GOP National Committee, the State GOP committees and the MSM.

They really made it very difficult for conservatives to get traction while encouraging kooks like Ron Paul. They purposefully wore down Fred's and Duncan's campaigns, the rope a dope startegy that sucks money and resources out while making it easy for others.

And they held Fred in very long strategy talks which made Fred slow to enter the race.

Its all about the future. And the GOP has decided to embrace a future unacceptable to conservative voters.

In short, the Republican party has become the covert enemy of conservatives. But they can be covert no longer.

The jig is up. I do not want a RINO future for America.

I will fight the Republican's anyway I can on this.

Yesterday the GOP made millions of implacable enemies. And they shrug it off. Believe me, they won't be shrugging after 7th Nov. 2008. Some will shoot themselves, literally.

The Republican party doesn't have a hope of winning next November against the $50 million plus war chest the Dems have, who have a minimum 52% popular vote, without the conservative wing of the Republican party.

The GOP has made its own bed, and they will have to lie in it, alone.

I have better things to do, and better places to go , than to keep the GOP company on their RINO riddled, tick filled mattresses, filled with the matted hair of the shriven, liberal socialist poseurs, they call candidates.

63 posted on 01/20/2008 2:34:53 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: TexasMatty

“Why do we as Conservatives have to settle?”

Because we are not the majority of the Republican party.


64 posted on 01/20/2008 2:35:43 AM PST by Bull Market
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To: Erik Latranyi
You are correct.

The independents have influenced the vote.

The next primaries are closed ones and should clear up who is going to represent the GOP.

I think Romney will beat McCain on that basis.

Once Huckabee and Thomson drop out, conservatives will go to the Romney camp to keep McCain out of the White House.

65 posted on 01/20/2008 2:43:32 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Sorry to say in some states it can’t be done. We used to have closed primaries in South Carolina but those were somehow branded racist so they changed to open ones.

If McCain did pull plenty of the crossover vote here yesterday then the Dem primary plans to be really interesting here. New Hampshire all over again.

66 posted on 01/20/2008 2:44:40 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Bull Market

True, but we aren’t dispensable and if enough conservatives sit out on the 7th it may turn heads.


67 posted on 01/20/2008 2:45:42 AM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee is the establishment's dream: An open borders putz!)
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To: Timeout
So. I will put my disappointment behind me. I will vote for ANY Republican before allowing the peaceniks back in the Oval Office. Once I realized that I felt better.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You will feel better until you realize that you have a Republican Peacenik in the oval office instead of a Democrat one.

Six of one and a half dozen of the other.

Depending on who the Republican Peacenik is, I may actually prefer the Democrat one.

68 posted on 01/20/2008 2:47:00 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: TexasMatty

Whatever you do, you can’t allow McCain to win.

From “McCain-Feingold” to amnesty for illegals, opposing the tax cuts of 2001, his constant sniping etc. this guy doesn’t cut it.

Vote against McCain so he can’t win.

Huckabee is fine with me as an alternative because at least he believes in something better than McCain, who’s a constant critic and RINO sniper.

McCain doesn’t even want freedom of speech in political campaigns, only the incumbent protection of McCain-Feingold.

Vote for the candidate in your state who has the most support next to McCain.

Romney would fit that bill in Utah, Massachusetts and probably Colorado on February 5th. I would vote for Romney in any state he chooses to contest that day.

Rudy needs to stay up, too.

Rudy must win the winner take all primary in New York on February 5th to deny McCain those delegates outright.

Huckabee should get votes in Arkansas and Oklahoma, the populist heartland on February 5th. I’d vote for him there again to deny McCain delegates outright.

Romney must break through in the Midwest. How about Missouri and maybe that native son of Missouri would get himself seriously involved in this to stop McCain.

His name inspired mine.


69 posted on 01/20/2008 2:48:07 AM PST by Nextrush (NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
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To: TexasMatty
Where does a Conservative go?

We tend to circle to the right before we go down. : (

70 posted on 01/20/2008 2:48:23 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TexasMatty

Its time to vote tactically so McCain will lose.

We can’t let the media annoint candidates and tell us everyone else has lost.


71 posted on 01/20/2008 2:49:28 AM PST by Nextrush (NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
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To: TexasMatty
Errr... not to imply we are anything other than conservatives. Just seems our chances to be represented in the next election just got flushed.

It just kills me. It really seems this was planned in advance. Major states in play for primary delegates had their democrat delegates skipped with the concerted effort to move their primaries forward. Republicans had theirs, democrats did not. Democrats registered as Republicans, and leftist candidates got elected in Republican primaries.

Apparently the Hildebeast will have her day after all.

It's very difficult not to be full of cynicism this morning, FRiend...

72 posted on 01/20/2008 2:51:46 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TexasMatty

If Thompson doesn’t make it, I’ll follow Ron Paul to third party.


73 posted on 01/20/2008 2:52:17 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: Nextrush

I’d never vote for Huckabee and neither will most Arkansas conservatives. There’s a reason the Arkansas Republican Assembly endorsed Fred Thompson.


74 posted on 01/20/2008 2:53:06 AM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee is the establishment's dream: An open borders putz!)
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To: ovrtaxt

“Madame President” appointing Supreme Court Justices?...

You sure about that?


75 posted on 01/20/2008 2:53:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: Candor7

You can’t possibly believe Hillary or Obama would come close to McCain, Romney, or Guilliani on national security. The very essence of the Dems’ campaign is to put domestic issues above national security (because THEY know it’s their weak point).

I have my issues with all the GOP candidates. But to say they’re no stronger than the Dems on national defense is patently wrong.


76 posted on 01/20/2008 2:55:53 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Def Conservative

I’d rather have Huck win down there to have to give his delegates to McCain so the whole world will know Huck was a shill rather than allow McCain to win and grab delegates outright.

Fred was buried tonight with some media members like Bill Sammon of the “Washington Examiner” yesterday suggesting Fred will endorse McCain.


77 posted on 01/20/2008 2:56:35 AM PST by Nextrush (NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
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To: TexasMatty

This whole thing’s been surreal. Please forgive some of the saltier remarks, and me hijacking your vanity with a semi-vanity of my own. It’s me trying to have a sense of humor about a very bad situation.

The RNC started this whole nightmare last year at a Log Cabin sleepover. They jumped the shark when they pulled Rooty Julie-Annie out of the closet and tried to shove him down our throats.

The limousine set who really, really, REALLY care about tax cuts but not the rest of the platform bought-in. Nobody else did. The rest of us went into full-on bunker mode.

The Women’s Christian Temperance Union reconstituted itself as the Santimonious Soccer-Mommies for Huck. (Shhh... don’t tell them it was Christian leftists who brought us the NAZI Germany, Prohibition, and Al Capone among others). The secular left sees him as a tool to fracture the base, and move the GOP leftward. Huck has misunderestimated his newfound buddies in the MSM. They would put him down for the good of the revolution before he ever got a sniff of the White House.

The Huckaboom scared big ‘L’ Libertarians so bad they ran to the basement to take one last hit off the Hookabong with Dr. Paul before the JBT’s execute a no-knock warrant. Now that they’re stoned, they don’t realize they’re just whitewashing McCain’s fence instead of Huck’s.

The patriotic constitutional conservatives rode out with Tancredo and Hunter hoping to take San Juan Hill. Yeah, there’d be some casualties, but it had to be done. Hopelessly outgunned financially, and left out on a limb by their leadership to battle the MSM alone, it played out more like the Alamo.

The RNC realized they screwed up, and subbed-in Mittens. It wasn’t really Rudy’s liberal record that put conservatives off, they reasoned, but the X-rated cover it came in. Quite a few saw through the ruse. Does Romney even believe his own white papers? He’s got about as much following as Rudy did before the base wised-up (minus a few who won’t bend over for man-dates).

The adults came to their senses and asked Fred to put the pieces back together. He’s the last hope to take down the Rats and their inside man, McVain. Good man for the job, but he’s trying to do it on short notice.

Who benefits? The Dems. The enemedia was pimping Rudy for a reason. After he served his purpose, they started waving Huck and Romney in our faces. Classic subterfuge. They wanted to keep the breach in our defenses open long enough for their mole McCain to infiltrate the command center. Mission accomplished as of 19 January. Look for a massive publicity blitz for McCain now.

They’ll run Huck and Mittens over as soon as they’re sure Thompson has no chance at taking enough delegates to turn the tide. Once Thompson’s out, they can pitch those two in the dumpster where they dispose of the aborted fetuses.

The general will be a cakewalk. There’s already not much difference between McCain and Hillary. She’ll run to the right on Iraq in the general, and there will be NO difference left in the minds of ‘swing-voters’. The hard-core commies will pitch a fit, but they know Hillary’s their meal ticket. They will vote themselves into our pocketbook as usual.

Then the MSM just has to wait for the right moment and unhinge the Manchurian Candidate on national TV. Not too soon or he’ll have time to recover. 4 weeks before election time sounds about right.


78 posted on 01/20/2008 2:56:37 AM PST by CowboyJay (I'm not bending over for 'man-dates'. Just say no to RiNO's.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If there’s going to be a nominee who doesn’t respect the constitution and would be a disaster, i’d much rather it be in the name of liberalism than in the name of populism desguised as conservatism.

Pastor Huckleberry and McCain haven’t convinced me that they will appoint conservatives. Souter was a GOP nominee remember


79 posted on 01/20/2008 2:57:02 AM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee is the establishment's dream: An open borders putz!)
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To: SkyPilot

lol that ain’t right!! haha


80 posted on 01/20/2008 2:59:37 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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