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What role for Democratic 'super-delegates'?
MSNBC.com ^ | 2007 | Tom Curry

Posted on 01/20/2008 11:29:20 AM PST by davidlachnicht

WASHINGTON - It’s called the Democratic Party, but one aspect of the party’s nominating process is at odds with grass-roots democracy.

Voters don’t choose the 842 unpledged “super-delegates” who comprise nearly 40 percent of the number of delegates needed to clinch the Democratic nomination.

The category includes Democratic governors and members of Congress, former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, former vice president Al Gore, retired congressional leaders such as Dick Gephardt, and all Democratic National Committee members, some of whom are appointed by party chairman Howard Dean.

The Republicans do not have a similar super-delegate system.

These super-delegates don’t have superhuman powers, but unlike rank-and-file Democrats, they do automatically get to cast a vote at the convention to decide who the party’s nominee will be.

Although dubbed “unpledged” in Democratic Party lingo, the super-delegates are free to come out before their state’s primary and pledge to support one of the presidential contenders.

On Tuesday Maryland Sen. Barbara Mikulski announced she was supporting Sen. Hillary Clinton and three weeks ago, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine declared that he's also backing her. These aren't mere endorsements; these are actual votes putting Clinton two steps closer to the number of delegates needed to secure the nomination.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; clinton; democrat; elections; obama
Just a little reminder WHY Obama will NEVER get the nomination no matter how many rank-and-file Democrats vote for him.
1 posted on 01/20/2008 11:29:22 AM PST by davidlachnicht
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To: davidlachnicht

This is not quite true. Some states have Republican super delegates. In CO, the two national party members and our state chairman are automatically delegates to the national convention. This may be a state decision only, I don’t know, but it is true that Republicans do have super delegates. We must don’t have as many as the Democrats, nor did we do it to create a special class of delegates, which the Democrats did.


2 posted on 01/20/2008 11:34:08 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: davidlachnicht

For current count, see: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D


3 posted on 01/20/2008 11:35:23 AM PST by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: davidlachnicht

As I’ve posted before, the Democrats have established the equivalent of the Politburo inside their own party. Allowing the unwashed masses the chance to elect 60 percent of the delegates provides a veneer of a free election, but since those votes are usually scattered among several candidates, whomever the Politburo wants to see in office gets the nomination.

Which will be Hillary.

And the media and the left in general will not care, since their interest is power for themselves.

It’s not all that different from other Democrat machine tactics 100 years ago in Chicago or Tammany Hall, with a layer of Leninism on the top to ensure better control of ideology and candidates.

I just had someone this morning tell me this morning that he’s not going to vote for the anyone supported by the “Republican machine.” I had to remind him that he’s a moron, told him about the superdelegates, the Democrat history of city politics. He told me that it didn’t matter, since the Republicans are also racist and fascist. The Dems would be proud.


4 posted on 01/20/2008 11:37:06 AM PST by redpoll
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To: davidlachnicht

The Democratic National Convention ought to be a real riot this year.


5 posted on 01/20/2008 11:45:57 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: redpoll

The ‘Rats really know how to brew their political kool-aid, shifting the blame for their own abuses to the opposing party.


6 posted on 01/20/2008 11:50:56 AM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Disambiguator

Ours might not be much better since we are the path to Rudy McRomnebee.


7 posted on 01/20/2008 12:00:56 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: davidlachnicht
Agree! Obama will never be able to overcome the inner circle/workings of those who really do not trust the electorate or their own Party Members. Just another example of the almost Fascist flavor of many Dems. MHO as usual. And they always shout about the Reps Good Ole Boy Network, in typical hypocrisy.
8 posted on 01/20/2008 12:21:39 PM PST by TCats
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To: pepperhead

Some pigs are just created more equal than others.
One pig two votes..
This won’t get much attention from the MSM, but you really can see the pattern of union thugism and commie thinking in the democRat primaries.
I guess republican just won’t stand for this shit.


9 posted on 01/20/2008 12:23:31 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: davidlachnicht
Most Democrat Super-Delegates hold an elected position and therefore were elected by the public. The public just never realized some elected position’s included a seat in the Democrat Presidential Convention Politburo. In a sense, even Republicans and Independents had a say in seating the Super-Delegates.
10 posted on 01/20/2008 12:27:24 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: pepperhead
Ours might not be much better since we are the path to Rudy McRomnebee.

Only because millions of Republicans will behave as stupidly as Democrats, and change their primary votes to someone who they don't like but is getting more support than their preferred candidate.

11 posted on 01/20/2008 2:14:05 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: ricks_place

Well, at least now, every Dem Congressman and Dem Senator gets a superdelegate slot — back in ‘84, only certain ones did — so far as I could figure, it was the ones that supported Mondale, with a few token others...


12 posted on 01/20/2008 6:47:34 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: pepperhead
...we are the path to Rudy McRomnebee.

When we cast our vote in November, it will be a vote against Hillary and nothing more. We must rise to the challenge of stopping her and saving our country.

13 posted on 01/20/2008 7:29:22 PM PST by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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