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Russian scientist says Earth could soon face new Ice Age
Russian News & Information Agency ^

Posted on 01/23/2008 10:09:35 AM PST by Bulwinkle

ST. PETERSBURG, January 22 (RIA Novosti) - Temperatures on Earth have stabilized in the past decade, and the planet should brace itself for a new Ice Age rather than global warming, a Russian scientist said in an interview with RIA Novosti Tuesday.

"Russian and foreign research data confirm that global temperatures in 2007 were practically similar to those in 2006, and, in general, identical to 1998-2006 temperatures, which, basically, means that the Earth passed the peak of global warming in 1998-2005," said Khabibullo Abdusamatov, head of a space research lab at the Pulkovo observatory in St. Petersburg.

According to the scientist, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere has risen more than 4% in the past decade, but global warming has practically stopped. It confirms the theory of "solar" impact on changes in the Earth's climate, because the amount of solar energy reaching the planet has drastically decreased during the same period, the scientist said.

Had global temperatures directly responded to concentrations of "greenhouse" gases in the atmosphere, they would have risen by at least 0.1 Celsius in the past ten years, however, it never happened, he said.

"A year ago, many meteorologists predicted that higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would make the year 2007 the hottest in the last decade, but, fortunately, these predictions did not become reality," Abdusamatov said.

He also said that in 2008, global temperatures would drop slightly, rather than rise, due to unprecedentedly low solar radiation in the past 30 years, and would continue decreasing even if industrial emissions of carbon dioxide reach record levels.

By 2041, solar activity will reach its minimum according to a 200-year cycle, and a deep cooling period will hit the Earth approximately in 2055-2060. It will last for about 45-65 years, the scientist added.

"By the mid-21st century the planet will face another Little Ice Age, similar to the Maunder Minimum, because the amount of solar radiation hitting the Earth has been constantly decreasing since the 1990s and will reach its minimum approximately in 2041," he said.

The Maunder Minimum occurred between 1645 and 1715, when only about 50 spots appeared on the Sun, as opposed to the typical 40,000-50,000 spots.

It coincided with the middle and coldest part of the so called Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America were subjected to bitterly cold winters.

"However, the thermal inertia of the world's oceans and seas will delay a 'deep cooling' of the planet, and the new Ice Age will begin sometime during 2055-2060, probably lasting for several decades," Abdusamatov said.

Therefore, the Earth must brace itself for a growing ice cap, rather than rising waters in global oceans caused by ice melting.

Mankind will face serious economic, social, and demographic consequences of the coming Ice Age because it will directly affect more than 80% of the earth's population, the scientist concluded.

http://en.rian.ru/science/20080122/97519953.html


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To: maine-iac7

“Forty years from now, many of us will be long gone, but with right planning NOW, new technologies, etc, our descendants can ‘weather it’ through...”

They’ll all move to Hawaii.


61 posted on 01/23/2008 10:41:52 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: alloysteel
Notice how “globull warming” has morphed into “climate change”.

It sure has! I guess they were tired of getting embarrassed at global warming rallies and photo-ops by cold weather. By adopting "Climate Change" they are now in the position of claiming that ANY weather that is remotely out of the ordinary is the fault of us heartless conservatives and our greedy ways.

62 posted on 01/23/2008 10:42:43 AM PST by Gator101 (Don't tase me, Bro!)
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To: Heartland Mom
I am no scientist, but deciding we are heading for an ice age based upon any 10-year analysis seems as ludicrous as using the same period to arrive at the global warming hysteria.

If you read the article, the guy is actually using a 200+ year analysis of sun spot activity to make his prediction. The 10 years cited were only to discount the effect of CO2 which rose by 4% over that period yet has not produced the warming trend that the AWG hustlers have claimed it would.

63 posted on 01/23/2008 10:42:57 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

64 posted on 01/23/2008 10:44:39 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Bulwinkle

"The Earth has hypothermia!"

65 posted on 01/23/2008 10:45:38 AM PST by OB1kNOb (At this point , conservatism in the 2008 election is DOA.)
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To: Bulwinkle
Very interesting ‘side bar’ story on Russia’s First Lady - go to the site and click on photo of her - and then click through the photos, reading the info with each one.

Her accomplishments are HERS - she is impressively accomplished, in her own right...speaks 4 languages, etc...Makes ‘lady’ Hillary look like the no-body she really is...claiming ‘35 years’ experience.

Russia’s First Lady does it right:

“In Lyudmila Putin’s opinion, the first thing the wife of a head of state should think of is “not harming the president’s activities.” She has never ridden on Putin's coattails, but carved our her own path quite admirably. Future First Ladies of the world could learn a lesson.

66 posted on 01/23/2008 10:46:14 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: 50sDad

The Mayan calendar ended with the Mayan Empire in the 16th century.

Maybe the year should have been read as 1512. Although that’s a little early.


67 posted on 01/23/2008 10:46:55 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Funny. The last one went on for 50,000 years.

No, the last one -- The Little Ice Age --- lasted about 50 years and coincided with a marked decrease in sun spot activity the same as we are seeing now.

68 posted on 01/23/2008 10:47:08 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Bulwinkle
Much Russian territory is geographically vulnerable to any downturn in temperature. From a practical standpoint the Russians don’t have the luxury to entertain politically correct theories about climate. Instead they have to anticipate and plan for the consequences colder weather will have on their agriculture and northern oil production.
69 posted on 01/23/2008 10:47:57 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Ditto

That wasn’t an ice age. It was a short term cooling event.

No glaciers came south.

Anyway, I thought algore invented ice ages?


70 posted on 01/23/2008 10:48:34 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Bulwinkle
Temperatures on Earth have stabilized in the past decade, and the planet should brace itself for a new Ice Age rather than global warming, a Russian scientist said in an interview with RIA Novosti Tuesday.

The only constant in Nature is CHANGE.

There has always been Climate Change and there will alway be Climate Change.

71 posted on 01/23/2008 10:48:52 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Heartland Mom
Don’t these patterns take hundreds, if not thousands, of years before they have any weight?

Here's a plot of Earth's climate for the last 400,000 years:



"From this plot, it is clear that most of the last 420 thousand years (420 kyr) was spent in ice age. The brief periods when the record peaks above the zero line, the interglacials, typically lasted from a few thousand to perhaps twenty thousand years. These data should frighten you. All of civilization developed during the last interglacial, and the data show that such interglacials are very brief. Our time looks about up. Data such as these are what led us to state, in the Preface, that the next ice age is about to hit us, any millennium now. It does not take a detailed theory to make this prediction. We don’t necessarily know why the next ice age is imminent (at least on a geological time scale), but the pattern is unmistakable."

Source:

http://muller.lbl.gov/pages/IceAgeBook/history_of_climate.html


72 posted on 01/23/2008 10:49:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Bulwinkle

This is distressing news.

Just where will I go to purchase Carbon Debits?


73 posted on 01/23/2008 10:50:48 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: TxAg1981
Now we are told that increased CO2 results in higher temps but the “solution” is the same.

Reminds me of the Far Side cartoon of the Horse Hospital where the treatment for every malady was "Shoot".

74 posted on 01/23/2008 10:52:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: UCANSEE2
They’ll all move to Hawaii

That could prove disastrous - even discounting all the seismic activity and tsunami risks- If there's a pole shift in the near future, as some scientists think, Hawaii could be the new 'north'


75 posted on 01/23/2008 10:53:07 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
That wasn’t an ice age. It was a short term cooling event. No glaciers came south.

The Little Ice Age brought bitterly cold winters to many parts of the world, but is most thoroughly documented in Europe and North America. In the mid-17th century, glaciers in the Swiss Alps advanced, gradually engulfing farms and crushing entire villages. The River Thames and the canals and rivers of the Netherlands often froze over during the winter, and people skated and even held frost fairs on the ice. The first Thames frost fair was in 1607; the last in 1814, although changes to the bridges and the addition of an embankment affected the river flow and depth, hence the possibility of freezes. The freeze of the Golden Horn and the southern section of the Bosphorus took place in 1622. The winter of 1794/95 was particularly harsh when the French invasion army under Pichegru could march on the frozen rivers of the Netherlands, whilst the Dutch fleet was fixed in the ice in Den Helder harbour. In the winter of 1780, New York Harbor froze, allowing people to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island. Sea ice surrounding Iceland extended for miles in every direction, closing that island's harbors to shipping.

76 posted on 01/23/2008 10:56:07 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Bulwinkle

2055 start date? I still have time.

We used to raise sheep and angora goats on our farm and still have many bags of wool and mohair in the barn.

I need to learn to knit and start making really thick sweaters!


77 posted on 01/23/2008 10:56:14 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: RightWhale
The long term goal of these people is to reduce the population of the Earth drastically. I heard a number of years ago that they want the US population to be about 25 million people. As as example, the Florida Keys would be uninhabited except for Key Largo, Marathon, and Key West. The alligators, mosquitoes, and Key deer get the remainder. And so it goes for the remainder of the World.
78 posted on 01/23/2008 10:56:36 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Our time looks about up. Data such as these are what led us to state, in the Preface, that the next ice age is about to hit us, any millennium now.

I may be slow but I think I can outrun a glacier.

79 posted on 01/23/2008 10:59:37 AM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Now isn’t this ‘Inconvenient’. It is easy to see why the envirowacko, socialist, man hating crowd are so hysterical. They need to strangle the US economy and put their plans into place before the masses realize they have been fooled. Fortunately most people in the US are suffering through a bitter January and even the loud howls from Saint Al and his Branch Algorians won’t be enough if the weather keeps up like this., My favorite ‘hotspot’ Iqaluit, Canada, hard on the Hudson Straight in Canada and home of those starving polar bears has an average high temp in Jan of about -6 to -8 F. So far through 22 days, there have been 3 days of above average or average temps, and 19 days where the high temp was at least 10f below normal, most days highs were -20f or below. Even the polar bears will be hoping for global warming soon.


80 posted on 01/23/2008 11:01:25 AM PST by milwguy (........)
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