Rudy the conservative? (Bill McCollum, FL AG for Giuliani)

Herald Tribune ^ | Jan. 26, 2008 | Jeremy Wallace

[FocusNexus]

When political experts break down the GOP primary election in Florida, they often talk about whether conservative voters will break for Mike Huckabee, John McCain or Mitt Romney.

But Bill McCollum, Florida's Attorney General and a staunch conservative, said they should be also talking about Rudy Giuliani.

Though Giuliani is more moderate on social issues like abortion, "any other way he’s very conservative." McCollum said his efforts to clean up New York City and his fiscal policies - namely cutting taxes and spending - are very much from conservative thinking.

If he wasn't McCollum said he wouldn't be pounding the pavement for Giuliani as he was on St. Armand's Circle this morning where Giuliani was addressing a crowd of supporters.

McCollum is an anti-abortion Christian conservative who, while in Congress fought to keep an anti-abortion plank in the GOP platform and led the effort to impeach President Clinton in the 1990s.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Another Republican sells his soul.

[shield]

I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING A PRESIDENT THAT ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THE GIPPER, OUR 40TH PRESIDENT and one of the greatest Americans that EVER lived....

I also know Rudy is the only true fiscal conservative running in this election. He's got my support.

[SoConPubbie]

I also know Rudy is the only true fiscal conservative running in this election. He's got my support.

While it was true, his overall record on taxes was positive (he had more cuts then tax hikes), the specifics are less than admirable. If Rudy felt a proposed tax-cut would hurt his budgets, he would go out of the way to fight it.

On spending his record is less than stellar.

He left incoming mayor of NYC the largest deficit on record.

Government on his watch grew by leaps and bounds as well.

Not much of a record to brag about if you ask me.

[FocusNexus]

I am sure you will be ever so much happier with Hillary or Obama...

[presently no screen name]

I'm not surprised. Anyone that isn't blinded with hate can see truth. True Christians know, social issues like abortion shouldn't be a government issue - it's a mindset and laws don't change mindsets.

And he led the effort to impeach the toon - a guy with a backbone, also. This guy knows Rudy is the one who will defeat Ms.Toon.

[SoConPubbie]

I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING A PRESIDENT THAT ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THE GIPPER, OUR 40TH PRESIDENT and one of the greatest Americans that EVER lived....

Not much of a reason to vote for a candidate in my opinion.

It's his position and most importantly his historical positions on the issues that matter, and rudy has a HORRIBLE, UBER-LIBERAL historical record on issues that matter to conservatives. To name a few:

1. In support of Global Warming Scam.
2. In support of Abortion, including a STRONG SUPPORT FOR PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION.
3. In support of gay agenda.
4. Very weak on 2nd amendment rights
5. Extremely weak on Illegal Immigration (had a sanctuary city).

Just this list alone should make any self-respecting conservative run away from Rudy screaming.

[SoConPubbie]

I am sure you will be ever so much happier with Hillary or Obama...

Spoken like a true Rudy-lover.

Sorry, the line has never worked for me.

If Hillary or Obama win, it won't be because I voted for them.

It will be because the GOP failed to nominate a conservative. Once whose record and positions on the issue differentiates themselves from the Democrat candidate.

[coramdeo]

McCollum is really a good guy. My family was at a Christian conference in Florida years ago when he was still in Congress and he was there helping with the children. I was very impressed - I think I was one of the few people who recognized him.

I haven't thought about Rudy since Fred dropped out because he appears to be dead in the water unless he wins Florida. He did give a great talk to the Federalist Society in November and he expressed a strong commitment to appointing strict constructionist, non-activist judges.

I'm not supporting Rudy, but I think a lot of McCollum.

[presently no screen name]

On spending his record is less than stellar. He left incoming mayor of NYC the largest deficit on record.Government on his watch grew by leaps and bounds as well.Not much of a record to brag about if you ask me.

You are wrong, wrong, wrong. Your mind is so tainted and it's obvious by the lies you posted.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Compared to Huck and McCain, Rudy is Barry Goldwater reincarnated.

[presently no screen name]

self-respecting conservative

Like you? Self respecting speak truth and don't spin.

[SoConPubbie]

True Christians know, social issues like abortion shouldn't be a government issue

Really?

Says who?

Care to back that up with any scripture references?

I don't believe you can, in fact I know you can't. All you have to do is read through the Old Testament to see what God himself expected of the Laws of a righteous country.

If you were to go by the history of the US, then you would know that the laws of the US have always dealt with moral issues, always, from the beginning of the country.

[FocusNexus]

“I’m not surprised. Anyone that isn’t blinded with hate can see truth. True Christians know, social issues like abortion shouldn’t be a government issue - it’s a mindset and laws don’t change mindsets.

And he led the effort to impeach the toon - a guy with a backbone, also. This guy knows Rudy is the one who will defeat Ms.Toon.”

Exactly! You may not have a screen name, but you certainly have facts, logic, and common sense on your side. :) That’s why McCollum, Forbes, Ted Olson, Bill Simon and a lot of conservatives, whose conservative credentials cannot be questioned, support him.

[SoConPubbie]

Like you? Self respecting speak truth and don't spin.

Oh come on, you can do better than that!

Prove your point!

I can prove my points just by going to the Guiliani Truth File link at the top of the forum.

How about you?

Or are you just going to throw out unfounded and unsupported accusations?

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

What upsets me is that our situation is so bad that this headline isn’t just hysterically laughable,

[presently no screen name]

Thank you. But I just learned something from you. Didn’t know about Bill Simon. Real conservatives know their own.

[T.L.Sink]

I remember when McCollum was one of our congressman but tonight I saw him on TV with Gov. Crist at a rally for McCain. As a FL resident and former supporter of Tancredo and Hunter, I’d certainly support Rudy before John “amnesty” McCain and his buddy Ted Kennedy. I don’t agree with some of Rudy’s social positions but in NYC he cleaned up crime, reduced welfare, lowered taxes, and cut the bureaucracy. His best endorsement, to me, was when the NY Times attacked him.

[FocusNexus]

If a president can really have an impact on abortions, please explain, why do we still have abortions after 8 years of Ronald Reagan, 4 years of Bush I and 8 years of GW Bush — very strong anti-abortion, pro life presidents?

Not to mention — what do you think the result will be after Hillary nominates and the Dem Senate confirms a large number activist judges. I read some statistics somewhere, that already a third of the Federal judges have been appointed by Bill Clinton.

[FocusNexus]

Red County Interview: Bill Simon On Rudy Giuliani

http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2007/02/i_watched_rudys.html

Bill Simon: I think Rudy will make an extraordinary President. I don’t know of anyone I’m in 100% agreement with respect to every issue — even my fellow conservatives. So I’m not troubled if I don’t agree with someone on every issue as long as they demonstrate very strong leadership qualities, which Rudy does, and a very strong sense of public service, which Rudy does, and a very firm agenda in areas that are important to me and in a way in which he can execute — all of which Rudy does.

When you think about the priorities he’s expressed — things like national security — I don’t know of anyone better in the public arena now who can handle issues of national security better than Mayor Giuliani.

And when you talk about issues related to fiscal conservatism, which are important to Rudy, I don’t know anybody in the public arena who has cut taxes 23 times as Rudy did when he was mayor of New York; who has shrunk the size of government, which he did when he was mayor of New York; reduced the welfare rolls by over 50 percent, which he did when he was mayor of New York. And that’s not going into reducing crime by 65% and many other things that he did while mayor in a situation that, before he became mayor, was widely regarded as the second toughest job in American politics, and was widely regarded as an ungovernable situation.

I think he did an extraordinary job as Mayor of New York in a Democrat-controlled environment, and being able to function as a fiscal conservative in that Democrat-controlled environment is an amazing achievement.

Cunningham: How long have you known Mayor Giuliani?

Simon: I met Mayor Giuliani back in May, 1985 when I went to work for him as an Assistant U.S. Attorney.