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'Hispanic panic' as Arizona immigration crackdown bites
AFP ^ | 1/26/08 | None listed

Posted on 01/27/2008 9:40:37 AM PST by Technoman

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To: b9
Illegal immigration would be wiped out in one swell foop through attrition, like Fred said.

You know, that's such a no-brainer. We must hold these sanctuary mayors and police chiefs accountable for REFUSING to do their job. In Mountain View, CA, the police raided and closed a massage parlor. One month later, the city opened a day labor center in the same building. If it wasn't maddening, it would be funny. These people replaced a hooker business for an illegal alien business.

21 posted on 01/27/2008 10:19:20 AM PST by Technoman
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To: Dan Evans

If a guy is married to an illegal..why not get her legal?
As usual..the press only tells part of the story to raise sympathy.
We are headed to AZ in Mar. So we will see first hand how this is going. The construction industry was already in the tank. So, it is not surprising that they are shedding people. Welders have always been in short supply and that is solved with PAY. A labor shortage means higher pay checks and happier middle class families. Yeah a certified welder was a middle class job before the influx of illegals.
Failure to pay state and fed withholding is a federal crime..that is one they enforce..so big companies can’t go black cash.


22 posted on 01/27/2008 10:19:43 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Technoman

Thats some good news!!


23 posted on 01/27/2008 10:20:20 AM PST by winodog ( It really is all about the benjamins)
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To: Technoman
The video hit many points:

Got to love the arrogance of the LAPD Chief when a caller asked why his department wasn't dong their job about illegal immigration: "If you don't like it, leave the state!"

Health issues: I don't eat the junk at McD's, but stopped at one to grab a cup of java the other day. While waiting to be served I noticed a midle-aged Hispanic female with multiple tattoos and pierceings carrying a tissue in one hand constantly sniffling and wiping her nose as she went about her tasks including handling money - must be from all those employee meals, or snorting bad stuff.

She appeared to fit into Gangsta Land, but it was, how should I say, mid-America.

Ahhhh, the American dream.

24 posted on 01/27/2008 10:23:00 AM PST by OnRightOnLeftCoast (Illegals are are like a box of chocolates: you never know what you are going to get)
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To: RooRoobird20

That is the problem. Unfortunately, there is a lot of anti-Latino rhetoric with the immigration issues, and it makes all of us seem racist and xenophobic, which most of us are not.

It is a travesty the way these people are treated in their own country, and then abused by employers in our country, while our citizens are being taxed and underpaid.

There is a better way, and this is the first step.


25 posted on 01/27/2008 10:23:39 AM PST by DLfromthedesert (Michael Steele for VP)
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To: Technoman
Ironco has raised steel fitters' wages 30 percent from a year ago, according to Bailey. "We've raised wages, competing for a diminishing supply (of workers)," he said. "We?ve been on a campaign of quality improvement, training, scouring the waterfront, so to speak, for American vets, ex-offenders trying to find their way back into society

Sounds like there are a lot of winners in this policy change. Replace illegal aliens with Americans who need the training and the work. About time I'd say.

26 posted on 01/27/2008 10:26:34 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: the invisib1e hand
Generally, the people on the inside of one on these things are called "prisoners."

I do prison ministry. Yet, amazingly, people do not call me a "prisoner" while I am behind the barbed wire and double doors. They must not understand the "general" rule.

27 posted on 01/27/2008 10:27:57 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Technoman
From the very poorly written article:
The ripple in Arizona?s economy has spread to other sectors. Real estate agent John Aguero Sr. said he gets four to seven calls each day from people asking about what they can do with their homes.

Fifteen out of 100 people who call Aguero "are just walking away from their property," he said.

One man called and asked how long the foreclosure process would take if he skipped his [$]1,600 house payments. Aguero told him four months.

The problem lies with the banks and mortgage companies making home loans to criminals. Outrageous!
28 posted on 01/27/2008 10:28:11 AM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: ModelBreaker
I do prison ministry. Yet, amazingly, people do not call me a "prisoner" while I am behind the barbed wire and double doors. They must not understand the "general" rule.

does this concatenation of non-squitirs aspire to have a premise and a conclusion, or is it just a clumsy attempt at self-rightously charged obfuscation?

29 posted on 01/27/2008 10:30:12 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Got to love the arrogance of the LAPD Chief when a caller asked why his department wasn't dong their job about illegal immigration: "If you don't like it, leave the state!"

Police Chief William Bratton has definitely made a name for himself on the immigration debate.

30 posted on 01/27/2008 10:30:37 AM PST by Technoman
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To: DLfromthedesert

I drove through the four corners last week moving from TX to WA. In Farmington and Shiprock there seem to be lots
of Dine who could use those jobs. They ought to have them
before any of the illegals, in my opinion.


31 posted on 01/27/2008 10:31:08 AM PST by rahbert
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To: Technoman

Arizona and Oklahoma... just states doing the job our Imperial Federal Government has a Constitutional mandate to do but won’t do.

Power to the states! IMHO, the collective states have more intelligence and chutzpa than the Feds. Who ya gonna call? :)


32 posted on 01/27/2008 10:31:39 AM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: DLfromthedesert

I appreciate your comments.

There’s a lot of anti-Hispanic rhetoric/sentiments which have resulted from the swarms of illegal immigrants overwhelming our state. This is what angers patriotic AMERICANS of Hispanic descent—we’re tarred as a single group who supports illegal immigration just because the law-breakers are from Mexico.

The fact is all Arizonans (black, white, Hispamic,etc.) are victims of the effects of illegal immigration: increased crime, higher taxes, welfare fraud, identity theft, and overcrowded schools and hospitals.


33 posted on 01/27/2008 10:36:47 AM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: Moonman62; All
= The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War =

Your tagline says it all.

So does the report, 'The High Cost of Cheap Labor'

And so does this:


34 posted on 01/27/2008 10:38:53 AM PST by OnRightOnLeftCoast (Illegals are are like a box of chocolates: you never know what you are going to get)
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To: Technoman
The effects of the law have been immediate, according to businessmen

There's a lot of fear and some people are leaving, said Salvador Reza, an immigrant illegal alien-rights "activist"

He predicted small businesses forced to lay off skilled employees like welders will now pay them in cash, creating a black economy.

He predicted small businesses forced to lay off skilled employees like welders will now pay them in cash, creating a black economy. "The underground economy is going to take hold now, and there will be less money for the state," Reza said.

I suppose this is supposed to mean we should let the criminal illegal aliens continue to break the law because what with their 12.00 hour jobs and deductions for the wife and 4-5 anchor babies the illegals "pay" taxes. Right. About twenty seven bucks a year. Never mind the $1,500.00 "Earned Income Tax Credit" check they get every year and hey this year they will get a bonus $600 bucks!

This next segment is just absolutely choice. Real responsible family values folks we have here. Just the kind `ol Juan McCain wants to amnesty in and let them stay here promoting THESE kinds of values...

The ripple in Arizona?s economy has spread to other sectors. Real estate agent John Aguero Sr. said he gets four to seven calls each day from people asking about what they can do with their homes.

Fifteen out of 100 people who call Aguero "are just walking away from their property," he said.

One man called and asked how long the foreclosure process would take if he skipped his 1,600 house payments. Aguero told him four months.

"Well, I?ll save that and just go home (to Guatemala)," Aguero said. "His wife is a citizen but he's not. The whole family will pack up and leave. He has three children, all of whom were born here."

So the guy has three anchor babies and does not give a rat about assimilating into US society or the American citizenship for his kids. It's all about flaking out on a home loan, running back south of the border with a lousy few grand and REAL American Citizens have to pick up the tab for him. What a loser. The real rub is this type of dummy is in the majority when it comes to the illegals.
35 posted on 01/27/2008 10:40:29 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Technoman

A group of people headed by the AZ. Chamber of Commerce is fighting the law and has taken the case to the courts. They have already been rebutted twice but they will seek a favorable judge in some venue. Of course, the ACLU is behind much of their legal work. Business interets, who have longed benefited from cheap labor, are major contributors to the McCain, J. Kyl poltical machines here in Az. Follow the money and you’ll find where the problem lies.


36 posted on 01/27/2008 10:40:45 AM PST by boilinghot
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To: the invisib1e hand; ModelBreaker
does this concatenation of non-squitirs aspire to have a premise and a conclusion, or is it just a clumsy attempt at self-rightously charged obfuscation?

I understood what MB said perfectly. I am, however, having a bit of difficulty understanding you. I see you're pushing your blog on your home page, get anybody there? (After your condescending post, I just had to find out more about you).

37 posted on 01/27/2008 10:45:57 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: FReepapalooza

The firefighters and police have used that term here for many years. They swear it is an actual medical term! lol


38 posted on 01/27/2008 10:46:40 AM PST by sheana
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To: upchuck
This should spread to all 50 states.
Can you say "SELF DEPORTATION?" For those who won't leave or get legal it is only a matter of time until you are caught and booted out.
39 posted on 01/27/2008 10:48:51 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: ozarkgirl
(After your condescending post, I just had to find out more about you).

cyberstalking is the highest form of flattery.

I believe you will find a page-hit counter at the bottom of the blog linked to, which is no longer being updated.

As to your difficulty understanding me, I suggest a dictionary, a thesaurus, and some time reading The Wall Street Journal editorial pages of the past.

40 posted on 01/27/2008 10:49:27 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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