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Without Thompson, A Boring GOP Field
RearClearPolitics ^ | January 27, 2008 | David Broder

Posted on 01/27/2008 10:43:45 PM PST by gpapa

WASHINGTON -- You would never realize how big the stakes are in Tuesday's winner-take-all Florida Republican primary if you judged only the behavior of the leading presidential candidates these last few days.

Their final pre-primary debate was bland to the point of apathy. Mitt Romney, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee and even iconoclastic Ron Paul were on their best behavior -- as if oblivious to what the 57 delegates available in Florida could mean to anyone who pulls out a plurality victory.

A win could establish either McCain or Romney as the man to beat in the massive round of Feb. 5 primaries. It could launch Giuliani into a late rush for the nomination, wiping out his weak showing in the earlier contests. And an upset by Huckabee would force an upper revision in his prospects, which have been diminished since he surprised the field in Iowa.

But their televised confrontation in Boca Raton on Thursday was haunted by the spirit of the departed Fred Thompson. It was as if the actor and former senator had left a blanket of boredom behind when he exited the race after finishing third behind McCain and Huckabee in South Carolina.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fred; fredthompson; mccain; romney
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1 posted on 01/27/2008 10:43:46 PM PST by gpapa
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To: gpapa

Sure. Now, everybody loves Fred.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 10:45:36 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: gpapa

Republicans are waking up to the fact that McCain is our Hillary, Romney is our Obama, and Huckabee is our Edwards. Just like the Democrat race, the GOP race has come down to the broken Washington establishment candidate vs. the outsider advocating change, with a southern populist spoiler who doesn’t know when to drop out thrown in.

Look at McCain’s list of endorsements.
It reads like a Who’s Who of everything that is wrong in Washington.
McCain is the broken Washington Establishment’s candidate.
He has all the endorsements from the pork-barrel Senate, the open-borders governors, and the New York Times and liberal establishment MSM.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 10:48:40 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: gpapa

Fred, Fred, Fred, we hardly knew ya!


4 posted on 01/27/2008 10:50:54 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: gpapa

Was the race really that much more lively when Fred was in?


5 posted on 01/27/2008 10:52:57 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: counterpunch

Ultra conservative Senator Tom Coburn has endorsed John McCain. Coburn is a spending and tax reform hawk.

And Romney is still running as the GOP chameleon. LOL


6 posted on 01/27/2008 10:53:24 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: gpapa

It’s a down raht cryen’ sharme

:(


7 posted on 01/27/2008 10:57:37 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: CutePuppy

Exactly.

Romney won that debate hands down.


8 posted on 01/27/2008 10:59:21 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: gpapa
The candidate who was falsely labeled by the media as the most “uninspiring” and “lackluster” was really the one driving the substance and soul of the debate.

Without Fred Thompson, the rest are free to dissolve into the amorphous goo of political gamesmanship. Fred Thompson's echo of true conservative principles has been left behind as they offer their shallow and pithy cooing to woo the masses.

9 posted on 01/27/2008 11:00:14 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Conservative Candidate Wanted... Conservative resume required.)
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To: ItsForTheChildren
Now , everybody loves Fred .

I am sure Broder was going to endorse him .

10 posted on 01/27/2008 11:00:46 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: gpapa

Zzzzzzz.

Every race gets “boring” as the candidate field is pared down, especially when they’re as large as on the Democrat side in 2004 and our side now in 2008.

Besides, the race isn’t about excitement. It’s about the best candidate. Luckily for us, Romney has always been a fairly strong candidate.

We could be in far worse position here, folks.


11 posted on 01/27/2008 11:03:04 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: counterpunch

Great post.


12 posted on 01/27/2008 11:03:05 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Terpfen
We could be in far worse position here, folks.

MMmmmm. Urrrgghhh. Uuggghghhhg.

Agreed.

(There, I said it. Flame suit on!)

13 posted on 01/27/2008 11:08:29 PM PST by pcottraux (I can't tell the difference between Carl Cameron, Chris Wallace, or Bill McCuddy.)
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To: pcottraux

No flames here, but I won’t pretend to be excited over Romney.


14 posted on 01/27/2008 11:09:37 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: Reagan Man

Sen. Sam Brownback (Kan.)
Sen. Richard Burr (N.C.)
Sen. Tom Coburn (Okla.)
Sen. Susan Collins (Maine)
Sen. Pete Domenici (N.M.)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
Sen. Jon Kyl (Ariz.)
Sen. Mel Martinez (Fla.)
Sen. Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.)
Sen. Gordon Smith (Ore.)
Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine)
Sen. John Thune (S.D.)
Sen. John Warner (Va.)

The entire open-borders crowd is behind McCain.


15 posted on 01/27/2008 11:09:51 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: Reagan Man


Coburn and McCain, once "outsiders", now just the Washington establishment.
16 posted on 01/27/2008 11:12:23 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: jellybean

Thought you might like this one.


17 posted on 01/27/2008 11:15:56 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Conservative Candidate Wanted... Conservative resume required.)
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To: gpapa
Heck...I was on my way to bed when I saw your thread.


"Repeatedly, he emphasized that the only reason he saw to run was to raise issues that the other candidates were too timid to address."


If that is true, he accomplished his goal.

18 posted on 01/27/2008 11:18:48 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: counterpunch
"McCain is our Hillary, Romney is our Obama, and Huckabee is our Edwards."


Interesting...and true.

Excellent insight.

19 posted on 01/27/2008 11:20:59 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Reagan Man

I’m still mourning...


20 posted on 01/27/2008 11:21:38 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: ItsForTheChildren

I can’t believe how many FReepers parroted the Drive-By Media line about Fred, the only real conservative in the race. “He’s lazy!” “No fire in the belly!” “Started too late!” The Drive-Bys pushed that meme endlessly, while almost completely ignoring Thompson’s fine debate performances and campaign events. They were miffed, of course, at Fred’s attitude towards them. Since the beginning, the Drive-Bys have been trying to choose our candidate for us — one that Hillary! can beat — which is why they’re pushing hard for McCain. They know he’s Bob Dole ‘08.


21 posted on 01/27/2008 11:30:22 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Me too. I don’t know what SC voters were thinking.


22 posted on 01/27/2008 11:36:01 PM PST by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: gpapa

True. HA’s traffic has plummeted since Fred dropped out and discussions have become very weird. Not sure about FR traffic, but I think the fundraiser went from fairly quick to very slow after Fred.


23 posted on 01/27/2008 11:36:15 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: gpapa

do they get paid on the number of articles written or the content.

This one was not worth the ink. And the third one I’ve read this evening, but who’s counting ...


24 posted on 01/27/2008 11:36:44 PM PST by malia ( Fred Thompson, you stay in there. I know you can do it!!! Prayers are said for your mother.)
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To: ItsForTheChildren

the minute he said he was running I was in favor of Thompson. I am very disappointed, but not much I can do if he doesn’t want to run. The next viable cadidate for me is Mitt Romney. I’d rather have a mormon in the white house than a muslim.

McCain can just go away I cannot stand him.


25 posted on 01/27/2008 11:37:33 PM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: JennysCool

And they’ll get what they deserve.


26 posted on 01/27/2008 11:38:41 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: JennysCool

Fred ran a lousy campaign, and surely would have run a similar campaign in the general election.
He would have made the best president, but the trouble is he had to get himself elected first, and he didn’t have much interest in working at that.

The MSM charge stuck because it rang true.


27 posted on 01/27/2008 11:39:02 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: 1066AD
Romney won that debate hands down.

Mitt lost ALMOST all the debates that Fred was involved in.
28 posted on 01/27/2008 11:49:59 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: sageb1
Maybe real conservatives can’t take the revisionism which has taken hold here since Fred dropped out.

Suddenly, the liberal candidates have become conservatives and we are being instructed that their liberal records, policies, and statements were simply misunderstood. Those of us who provide facts to the contrary are spreading “filth”.

The premiere conservative website in the world has not been a friendly place for conservatives in recent days. I fervently pray for a shift the direction we are currently headed, because the only place I'm seeing much of real conservative principles is in our rear view mirror.

29 posted on 01/27/2008 11:50:58 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Conservative Candidate Wanted... Conservative resume required.)
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To: Route66
The premiere conservative website in the world has not been a friendly place for conservatives in recent days.

Romney was on Human Events magazine TOP 10 RINOS list 2 years ago and now hes a conservative.

30 posted on 01/28/2008 12:02:35 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Aria

In an exit poll in South Carolina, which asked who was the conservative in the race, 61% said Fred, 45% said Mitt, 43% said Huckabee; and McCain & Rudy trailed at I think 23-27% & 14%. If you look at the details of the exit poll in SC it shows a significantly different result as to where conservative votes actually went.

I can only conclude, as a Fred supporter, he did not get in early enough to establish a ground game in Iowa and South Carolina. He probably never should have skipped the Iowa debates or caucuses. I think he would have been better off dusting off his old red truck and barnstorm across Iowa for a month. That at least would create some buzz in his campaign, and may have stopped the Huckabee boomlet early on.


31 posted on 01/28/2008 12:05:43 AM PST by gpapa ("My idea of gun control is a good, steady aim" - Fred Thompson)
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To: SoConPubbie

Fred won the debate for best conservative but lost the debate for best presidential candidate.


32 posted on 01/28/2008 12:33:33 AM PST by ari-freedom (the idea of Bill Clinton back in the White House with nothing to do is something I can’t imagine.)
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To: gpapa

I figured Fred would dominate, but he didn’t.

I think you’re right about the late start - the other horses were off and running before he got on the track.


33 posted on 01/28/2008 12:33:38 AM PST by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: gpapa

None of the current Republicans in the hunt for the nomination
come close to exciting the conservative base of the party.
Is this the freaking best we can come up with?
These guys would not even place in a dog show.


34 posted on 01/28/2008 1:01:04 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Route66

I’ll be sure and always check with you from now on to find out what REAL conservatives should be thinking and doing.


35 posted on 01/28/2008 2:35:23 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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To: gpapa

David Broder? I thought he died. Well, I guess be both thinks and looks like a corpse.


36 posted on 01/28/2008 2:51:01 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Joe Boucher

I agree. There is no one running on the republican side that moves me in the least . If this is the best we can do we are in serious trouble .Obama or Klinton will be president and America is on the decline for sure .


37 posted on 01/28/2008 3:11:05 AM PST by sonic109
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To: 1066AD

Exactly.

Romney won that debate hands down.

yup AND HE IS OUR WINNER

HANDS DOWN!


38 posted on 01/28/2008 3:27:06 AM PST by flat
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To: Reagan Man

YER RIGHT r/m

now lets get fred on board with MITT

and sail headlong into the WHITEHOUSE come nov.

r ya with me?


39 posted on 01/28/2008 3:29:07 AM PST by flat
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To: counterpunch

yup and look at the list who DONT endorse him

most importantly...

RUSH AND ANNIE AND LAURA.....THEY’RE A BACKIN MITT

if those 3 are behind u...havent the alarm bells gone off?

ie BACK MITT.....ALL THE SMART HORSES DO!


40 posted on 01/28/2008 3:31:45 AM PST by flat
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To: counterpunch

The entire open-borders crowd is behind McCain.
Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine)?

OLYMPIA SNOWE?

..........THAT did it......


41 posted on 01/28/2008 3:34:18 AM PST by flat
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To: Joe Boucher

None of the current Republicans in the hunt for the nomination
come close to exciting the conservative base of the party.
Is this the freaking best we can come up with?
These guys would not even place in a dog show

HUH?

wahtchu talkin ‘boud willis?

MITT’S the man

ANN COULTER AND RUSH AND LAURA ARE ABACKIN HIM....

nobody’s smarter than those 3 rest assured.....

if they back him

can we afford not to?

ANS: LETS ALL GET ABOARD THE MITT STEAMROLLER AND CRUISE ON IN TO THE WHITEHOUSE IN NOV.

AUUU RAH

semper fi


42 posted on 01/28/2008 3:40:06 AM PST by flat
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To: flat

If Mitt secures the nomination I’ll probably reluctantly support him.
If McLAme or Rino Rudy or numb nuts Huckabee gain the nomination, I’ll probably sit it out.
Even Mitt is not a REAL conservative.
But he is by far the best of the lot.


43 posted on 01/28/2008 3:46:11 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: gpapa

Watching Fred nap {yet again} was entertaining? He slept {figuratively and about virtually} during his committee hearings as chairman. That is when he was actually there. By the second week watch cars rust was more inviting. Fred was a ruse to stop Rudy and lock out Hunter as well. Mr Bush didn’t want no conservatives taking over da Whitehouse and messing up China & Saudi business deals the globalist had made. Rudy was too liberal for Bush if that is possible and Hunter or Paul is far too conservative for N.E. Rockefeller elitist like the Bush political family. Fred running a faux campaign and then dropping out makes certain either Liberal Mitt or Liberal John both globalist and Mexico/China/Saudi government/faux free trade friendly gets the GOP nod.


44 posted on 01/28/2008 3:47:48 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: cva66snipe

Sore loser, aren’t ya? Why don’t you hold Hunter responsible for running a very poor campaign? Why don’t you ask him how he expected to win a national campaign when his communications director owned a local string of Mexican restaurants? When his communications director stood there in Dallas and said Hunter couldn’t win?

Why don’t you hold Ron Paul and his years-long record of flaky stances for his pathetic showing? But, no— it’s a lot easier to blame his problems on someone else.

Get real.


45 posted on 01/28/2008 4:21:27 AM PST by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: gpapa

Wonder why he really got out.


46 posted on 01/28/2008 6:33:17 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: gpapa

I didn’t know the Republicans were still running a candidate.

All I saw were the Democrat and the Democrat-Lite debates.


47 posted on 01/28/2008 7:36:04 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
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To: counterpunch

Then vote for Romney.

The RINO choice is yours.


48 posted on 01/28/2008 7:54:33 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: counterpunch

Btw, you lied. The top three names you mentioned, Brownback, Burr and Coburn, all voted against comprehensive immigration reform in June 2007.


49 posted on 01/28/2008 8:09:55 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: gpapa
Boring?

I'd call it more like "Dangerous".

50 posted on 01/28/2008 8:12:28 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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