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U.S. moves to keep F-14 parts from Iran
Yahoo | AP ^ | 1/28/08 | Sharon Theimer

Posted on 01/29/2008 2:44:37 AM PST by LibWhacker

WASHINGTON - President Bush signed legislation Monday prohibiting the Pentagon from selling leftover F-14 fighter jet parts, a move prompted by security gaps in the military's surplus auction.

Those gaps made the surplus auction a prime place for Iran to shop for the spares it desperately needs for its Tomcat fleet.

Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., proposed the ban after The Associated Press reported last year that buyers for Iran, China and other countries exploited weaknesses in Pentagon surplus-sale security to obtain sensitive military equipment including parts for F-14s and other aircraft and for missile components.

Iran is the only country still trying to fly Tomcats, another name for F-14s. The U.S. Navy retired its F-14s in 2006.

Bush made the Tomcat sales ban law by signing a $696 billion military spending bill that included it. He didn't comment on the F-14 provision.

Iran bought Tomcats with U.S. permission in the 1970s when the two countries were allies. The governments were so friendly at that point that U.S. Navy pilots helped deliver the jets.

The hostage crisis that followed the 1979 overthrow of the shah led the U.S. to break off diplomatic relations. Bush has called Iran part of an "axis of evil."

U.S. officials believe most of the 79 Tomcats delivered to Iran have crashed or been scavenged for parts over the years. They say Iran can produce only a fraction of the parts it needs for its surviving F-14s and is aggressively seeking spares.

Tomcat parts aren't the only aircraft components Iran has covertly sought from Pentagon surplus sales; at least once in recent years, Chinook helicopter parts sold through a Defense Department auction made it to Iran, law enforcement officials say.

The Pentagon announced after the AP story ran that it would stop selling F-14 parts while it reviewed national security concerns. The military had planned to destroy Tomcat-specific components but sell thousands of F-14 parts that could be used on a variety of aircraft. That plan worried congressional investigators and federal law enforcement officials who have seen sensitive surplus including parts unique to the F-14 wind up among innocuous military leftovers up for sale.

The Navy, meanwhile, decided to shred its Tomcats and began doing so last summer at a military aircraft cemetery in Arizona.

Giffords and Wyden say a broad and permanent ban on the Pentagon's sale of F-14 components is needed to ensure sensitive items do not get out. The legislation lets only U.S. museums and similar historical groups buy F-14s or Tomcat parts. The jets would have to be rendered useless for military purposes.

The measure also bans the granting of export licenses for F-14 parts.


The bill is H.R. 4986.


On the Net:

Read the legislation at

(This version CORRECTS bill number at end. )

TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; aviation; f14; iran; navair; parts; tomcat

1 posted on 01/29/2008 2:44:40 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Yeah but we sell high technology to china...

2 posted on 01/29/2008 3:25:30 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: ColdSteelTalon
We’ll never learn. At this very moment we are rebuilding and re-arming an Islamic nation as well as arming and even worse industrializing a Communist one with Hi-Tech factories. The difference between Iran and Iraq? Nothing! We were far better off when they hated each others guts and fought with each other. As for China what Bill Clinton didn’t give away to the Bush has. Now China is buying up companies inside the U.S. and Islam {in Bush’s words the religion of peace} is incorporating itself into our political system. We also faired better when Communism was our enemy not our preferred business partners.
3 posted on 01/29/2008 3:50:42 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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4 posted on 01/29/2008 11:25:09 AM PST by Vroomfondel
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5 posted on 01/29/2008 5:50:28 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: LibWhacker

It is not just the parts for the F-14 that are a problem. The F-14 relied on a sophisticated automatic test station called VAST to ensure the operation, testing and repair of the aircraft’s electronic systems were performed correctly.

6 posted on 01/29/2008 6:03:28 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

Iranian F-14s from 2006 & 2007

7 posted on 01/31/2008 12:50:56 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Thanks for the pictures. The markings are differt that what I remember and the F-14A wasn’t based at Mehrabad in Tehran; it was Khatami Airbase in Esfahan and the airbase in Shiraz.

8 posted on 01/31/2008 6:44:00 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

The Iranians F-14s now mainly carry the new camo. They are not based at Mehrabad. These days based at Esfahan and Bushehr.

9 posted on 02/01/2008 3:12:23 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

I guess that they closed Shiraz airbase. Bushehr makes sense somehow because of the nuclear reactor and other stuff. The Iranian F-14’s standoff capability has been lost for a long tine

10 posted on 02/01/2008 3:24:34 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

No Shiraz is still open. They fly their Su-24 Fencers from there. Noted on Google Earth.

The Iranian’s never lost the stand-off capability. A lot of hype has surrounded this issue. The Iranians were still knocking Iraqi aircraft out of the skies with both Phoenix and Sparrow long after the US support went.

The Iranians have also show a reverse-engineered Phoenix and also tested a modified Hawk SAMs from F-14s. Exercise videos exist of them toting Phoenix during exercises. Having served in the Gulf I can attest that the Iranian F-14s are still very much active and no strangers to Coaliton forces. They are still noted practising stand-off capability and generate healthy sortie rates. Remember that Bushehr is coast located and right in the yard of Coalition Gulf ops.

Iran has both Russia and China to assist them with their aerospace developments. If not directly government assisted then with freelance designers and engineers. Iran has the money to spend on such technology and info.

11 posted on 02/02/2008 2:20:47 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo
I have no doubt about the Russians reverse engineering the many of the avionics systems from the schematics and other technical documentation that was left behind. Under the Shah, the Russians for the most part were forced to drive around in dayglow orange vehicles and the SAVAK kept a close eye on them. During the beginning of the revolution, the work at the Khatami airbase slowed down to nothing. In December 1978, a large contingent of American contractors and their families left to be followed by a second group. I remained in-country until April 1979. Got to see a lot of interesting things during that time.
12 posted on 02/02/2008 4:27:48 AM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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