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McCain's ACU Ratings
The American Thinker ^ | Jan. 29, 2008 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 01/29/2008 2:44:53 AM PST by JaneNC

McCain's ACU Ratings Randall Hoven

Senator John McCain's lifetime rating of 82.3% from the American Conservative Union is often cited as proof that he is conservative. Here is a closer look at that 82.3 rating.

First, a rating of 82.3 is not really that high. It puts Senator McCain in 39th place among senators serving in 2006, the latest year for which the ACU has its ratings posted online. For that most recent year in particular, McCain scored only 65, putting him in 47th place for that year. Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE), for example, scored 64 and 75, respectively, in 2006.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html

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KEYWORDS: acu; conservative; mccain; ratings
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To: counterpunch

I am not defending him.

For me it might come down to this old saying, “The devil you know may be better than the devil you don’t know.”


61 posted on 01/29/2008 3:52:00 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

You ought to know McCain by now.
But it seems like you forget too easily.
McCain has been trying to work out a deal with the Democrats to switch parties for 7 years now, and they’ve finally reached one recently.
McCain denounces conservative judges like Alito and promises not to nominate any like him, and the liberal Washington establishment throws Hillary under the bus, clearing the way for an easy win for McCain.

He and his running mate Joe Lieberman will switch parties after an early high-profile fight McCain picks with the GOP leadership.

Then the majority Democrats pass his agenda.
Why have they agreed to this?
Because they see the writing on the wall about Iraq. They know they’re on the wrong side of history and all their candidates have painted themselves into a corner.

McCain switching parties is their way out.
They want to steal the victory in Iraq from the Republicans and claim it as their own.
This has to do with their long term legacy, because they are now very concerned about a repeat of the reputation they got after Vietnam, and this is their plan to avoid a repeat of it.


62 posted on 01/29/2008 4:02:07 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: JaneNC
What this means is that McCain's ACU ratings since 1998 put him on the liberal side among Republicans.

Maybe, but if you look at 1998, it was three votes on campaign finance reform and two on tobacco that put him "on the liberal side."

Take votes on his pet campaign finance issue out of the mix and the picture's a little different.

You don't want someone who's too erratic in the White House, and that counts against McCain.

But the idea that being the best follower qualifies one for the Presidency is a questionable one.

63 posted on 01/29/2008 4:03:22 PM PST by x
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To: counterpunch

And Romney is any better?


64 posted on 01/29/2008 4:51:32 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Much better. He isn’t touting a 2.6 TRILLION dollar amnesty bill


65 posted on 01/29/2008 4:56:22 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: JaneNC

The amnesty bill will never pass.

I would be much more comfortable having a Republican minority in the Senate fillibustering some of McCain’s proposals, than trying to fillibuster EVERY one of Hillary’s.

Romney is too Clintonesque.


66 posted on 01/29/2008 6:02:47 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: gruna
Sympathy for McCain must be the reason for his support. Or ignorance.

Too many Independents crossed lines and registered Republican for the primary. Remove those numbers and Romney would easily win Florida. In other words, you are correct...Ignorance.
67 posted on 01/29/2008 6:46:52 PM PST by callisto
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To: blueheron2
Michael Medved

Needs to be slapped. A couple of times.

68 posted on 01/29/2008 6:51:59 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: JaneNC

“First, a rating of 82.3 is not really that high. It puts Senator McCain in 39th place among senators serving in 2006, ..”

Very interesting.


69 posted on 01/29/2008 7:12:38 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: JaneNC

“McCain scored only 65, putting him in 47th place for that year. “ RINO Score.

McCain is up there with stalwart conservatives Olympia Snowe and Arlen Specter.

RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.


70 posted on 01/29/2008 9:47:10 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: blueheron2

‘Michael Medved for one. I was extremely disapointed in his show defending McCain last week.”

FOLKS, ITS ALL ABOUT THE AMNESTY!
Theat is why medved supports mccain, he wants amnesty.
They are hiding the amnesty under the rug, and will pull it out once the pro-amnesty candidate is in the white house!

Just watch.


71 posted on 01/29/2008 9:48:47 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: HamiltonJay

MCCain was 65% last year ... What he did in 1983 is irrelevent. he USED to be a conservative.
HE NOW is a RINO.

Better a convert than a traitor. Vote Mitt Romney!


72 posted on 01/29/2008 9:50:06 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If we look at the last 7 years, McCain’s number is about 72%.

A consistent RINO during the Bush era.

We CANNOT let this man be our nominee!

73 posted on 01/29/2008 9:51:26 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Problem is a “moderate” could never get nominated.

That's what John McCain is, and it looks like he is winning ... we will have a moderate vs liberal race if its McCain vs Hillary.

74 posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:55 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: wolfcreek

#1. nice resume bullet but we are electing a 70+ yearold RINO, the war hero guy was 40 years ago.
#2. Electability is bunk. He is old, not great on the stump, and his only electoral advantage is that he is so moderate, he wins more swing voters. But the base, like me, will not lift a finger for him.

#3 is BS, but the MSM covers for him like they cover for the Clintons so he gets away with it.

McCain clearly lied on the campaign trail about ‘getting it’ on immigration, then telling Russert he would sign the McCain - Kennedy bill if it came across his desk. He STILL advocates amnesty.

Lied also about Romney, didnt back down on his timetable smear although the pundits universally panned it.

straight talk my a**. Liberal pablum served up in a way where you can argue with it or you are a ‘bigot’ or a ‘loud person’.

RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.


75 posted on 01/29/2008 10:00:46 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: WOSG

It is our only chance...

VOTE MITT


76 posted on 01/29/2008 10:02:43 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Mr. Brightside; counterpunch

“If the ACU could rate him on gay issues/abortion/guns/spending/etc, he would rank lower than Hillary.”

Complete BS on so many levels.
Romney consistently and publicly opposed gay marriage, worked to limit the effects in mass. (succeeded in stopping out of state couples from coming in) called on states to pass constitutional amendments and support for FMA. McCain not. Hillary not.
NRA gave Romney a B in 2002, and he is supporting individual RKBA.
Spending: Cato ranked Romney 15th out of 50 on fiscal responsibility - very high. same ranking had Huckabee at a miserable 45th out of 50.

and on it goes. Your comment is BS.

Romney is the clearly more conservative candidate compared with McCain. That is why pro-amnesty pro-abort and moderates vote for McCain and conservatives vote for Romney.


77 posted on 01/29/2008 10:04:21 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

“I would be much more comfortable having a Republican minority in the Senate fillibustering some of McCain’s proposals,”

What a MORONIC comment.

How about NO TO MCCAIN and NO TO HILLARY both?

Why on earth would we work to elect a man only to have to rely on wimpy senate minority to stop his cosponsored McCain-Demcr*p bills?!?!?

With Romney we have a platform that conservatives can support 100%.

And quit trashing the more conservative candidate in the race. Roney is the least Clintonesque candidate in the race. Smart, articulate businessman. not a clinton. Its unbecoming of you.


78 posted on 01/29/2008 10:07:12 PM PST by WOSG (RINO MCCAIN DOESNT FIT - VOTE FOR MITT.)
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To: callisto

Exit polls showed if only Republicans had voted in the Republican primary Romney would have won.


79 posted on 01/30/2008 3:47:04 AM PST by gruna
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To: WOSG

Romney has more conservative rhetoric, but a more liberal record.

There is not a damns worth of difference between Romney and Kennedy.

He is so phoney it makes my skin crawl. More phoney that bubba ever was.


80 posted on 01/30/2008 5:39:42 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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