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Smith & Wesson Receives Order from Colorado State Patrol
CNN Money.com ^ | 1/28/08 | n/a

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:01:28 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: xsrdx

Those guns are all empty with open chambers if you notice. ;>) I checked before the photo.


81 posted on 01/29/2008 12:13:45 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: tubebender

THANK YOU for doing that. This is where the $$ goes. We regularly have 20 and sometimes up to 35 UCSB and Westmont students up to Winchester Canyon Gun Club for our events.


82 posted on 01/29/2008 12:14:56 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: thefactor

I was the same in an OC kind of way, carried the P-229 on duty and the Glock 32 off. Also had various backups.


83 posted on 01/29/2008 12:15:11 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: XeniaSt

If you look closely you’ll see the chambers are empty and open . I’ve gotten this comment before.


84 posted on 01/29/2008 12:15:47 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Ghengis

The grip safety on the XD seems like a good idea too. We’ve been in contact with Springfield and they have been very good to us. Sent us a box of hats and other gimmes for the kids. Picture this. Cute UCSB coed (and if you’ve been there you know what I’m talking about;>) wearing her XD baseball cap to class. Heh.


85 posted on 01/29/2008 12:19:37 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: jacksonstate

Thank you.


86 posted on 01/29/2008 12:20:31 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

I could tell, the cylinder was a bit out and the chambers were visible. It’s a 625, right?


87 posted on 01/29/2008 12:32:34 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: RKV

Dear RKV:

I wish I could tell you, but I haven’t shot an XD. I’ve seen some people shoot them in matches, and they like them, but I have no first hand experience.

I do like the M&P trigger much better than a Glock’s, and I’ve been told that a non-professional can file the sear and make it even better.

I don’t think you could go wrong with the M&P. The interchangeable grip swells are great. I have an average size hand, so I have settled on the “medium.”

Let me know what you decide.

P.S. Is that a UC Santa Barbara sweatshirt? Do THEY have a pistol team??


88 posted on 01/29/2008 12:41:07 PM PST by DrNo
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The 225 is a great single stack 9.

That's why we bought it. My wife has small hands. The single stack was just the ticket.

89 posted on 01/29/2008 12:57:33 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yep. I had the trigger worked on and it is a sweet gun. Even the young ladies can shoot it well. This one has the 5 inch barrel.


90 posted on 01/29/2008 1:16:12 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: absolootezer0
Another thing to consider when buying a Glock or any pistol with a synthetic receiver and the Browning-style tilting barrel action lockup (any non-fixed barrel) is the depth that the barrel can be depressed before unlocking and the difference when the slide returns to battery.

This is caused by differences in tolerance in factory production at the time the barrel locking lug is molded into the plastic receiver. If it's too low, there will be a lot of sloppiness in the action. If the block is molded in too high, the reliability of cycling will be affected;

1. If the locking lug is molded in too low, that means that the 'loose' barrel will not always be returning to zero after each shot and you might notice a pretty wide variance in vertical stringing of shots downrange.

2. If the locking lug is too high, the 'tight' barrel may fail to reliably feed round and extract cases and cause 'stoveipe' jams.

This was a problem that afflicted a lot of 1st and 2nd generation Glocks and all first-production manufacturers who delivered plastic receivered handguns. The problem is still out there in all synthetic pistols. One shooter may have a problematic Glock/S&W/Hk compared to his friend's otherwise identical model and the inaccuracy or finicky cycling of the 'bad' pistol may cause the shooter to go crazy trying to determine what's wrong.

The issue is easy to check for: Before buying a plastic pistol, make a safe gun and press down with your thumb on top of the barrel breech. It should depress a bit, but only by about the thickness of a new playing card. A coated fresh business card ought to do the trick if you lay the card on top of the barrel breech and press down hoping that the surface of the card and the rear of the slide will be flush when depressed. Any more or less than that, ask your dealer for another pistol until you find one that's flush.

I've seen Glocks where three business cards would fit before the top of the barrel breech was flush with the slide, and other where there was barely enough room for the card to sit on the barrel breech without feeling a 'lip' on the card brushing my thumb across the top of the slide.

A super high quality gunsmithed barrel like the ones available from KKM Precision will eliminate these problem, but cost you about half the purchase price of your Glock to make it shoot through donut holes at 50 feet. They sure don't typically shoot like that out of the box, but can definitely be made to do so with some investment.

91 posted on 01/29/2008 1:16:58 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: RKV

I’ve got one of the Miculek jobs and a 1959 model 25 that was shortened to 4” for a LEO, got a trigger job, and still has the “Coke” stocks. Both could outshoot a Kimber gold match I had.


92 posted on 01/29/2008 1:18:44 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DrNo
Yes that is a UC Santa Barbara sweatshirt. Sorry no team, BUT we do have a club. The Friends of the NRA helped us purchase 5 Ruger Competition .22s for the kids to use. This year we're buying 2 Remington 700s in .223 and 5 more 9mm pistols. We'll see something north of 120 students (some come by more than once) at the range for our events.
93 posted on 01/29/2008 1:21:02 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

SWEET!


94 posted on 01/29/2008 1:24:02 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Old Smiths, Browning A-5’s and Winchester 12’s are my vices.


95 posted on 01/29/2008 1:27:32 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yep on the Model 12s. I have a 1955 vintage in 20 that means quail is what’s for dinner in our house. Heh.


96 posted on 01/29/2008 1:30:08 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

I’m one of those odd 16 gauge folks...


97 posted on 01/29/2008 1:30:58 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Centurion2000

Do you have the M&P40 or the M&P40 Compact?


98 posted on 01/29/2008 1:34:23 PM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: xsrdx

Absolutely, bullet setback upon repeated chambering is a significant risk factor that is difficult to diagnose after the gun explodes.


My common sense solution for anyone who loads and unloads daily is after removing the magazine, ejecting the chambered round into a container that fills up with once-chambered rounds. All those then make fine practice ammo, because no round will ever be chambered more than twice, and once-chambered rounds will never risk causing a failure in a critical situation.

Of course, if those are expensive Cor-Bon rounds or the like, this gets expensive. On the other hand, you should shoot hundreds of rounds with your carry round, to be CERTAIN you gun doesn’t have trouble with them.


99 posted on 01/29/2008 1:42:33 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Dunno about the Glock, but Wolf 124gr (or maybe it's 115gr) 9mm does NOT cycle properly in my HiPower. In fact, it's the only thing said HiPower has refused to eat.

How old is you HP?

I bought mine back in 1980, and its feed ramp is a little steep, so other than full ball 115gr ammo, it doesn't feed very well. I suppose I should have had a smith take a look and mod the ramp long ago.

Now my Browning BDM on the other hand, has a voracious appetite and eats just about anything I've tried.

100 posted on 01/29/2008 1:55:05 PM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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