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No Conservatives Please - The Writing on the Wall in South Carolina
NewsByUs ^ | JB Williams

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:14:31 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

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To: Centurion2000

That’s true, but he never marketed himself as Reagan. He was the steady, experienced hand to lead after 4 years of sleaze with Clintoon.


61 posted on 01/29/2008 10:49:48 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
These 4 leading RINO asshats today are all degrees of liberal or trending that way...

They are what the majority of the moderate element of the electorate want them to be. The only sure path to dominance for either bona fide Conservatives or Liberals is national disaster, at least the perception of it. When- not if - economic and or security issues are sufficiently urgent to rouse the materialistic herd from its fun and games, we will have consensus in one way or another. Until such a time, we are mired in the middle.
62 posted on 01/29/2008 10:53:05 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

The positive in Obama’s favor is because he is an unknown quantity, he could get a lot more votes. Because Hillary is so well-known and the fact that almost nobody doesn’t have an opinion (positive or negative), she is instantly polarizing. A lot of Dems recognize that and think going with empty-suit Obama is a better bet.

And, yes, you’re right, he is more dangerous. He is either the most or tied for being the most extreme-left Senators. We know the kind of criminality Hillary will engage in, but we have no idea what Obama is likely to do.


63 posted on 01/29/2008 10:53:47 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: PerConPat
"They are what the majority of the moderate element of the electorate want them to be."

I'll say straight out that the majority of most states GOPs voting base are Conservatives. The problem is that a lot of them chose not to look at the substance of the candidates and looked merely at the outer package and rhetoric instead. Their stupidity at doing so has already doomed us in this election. There will be enough of a depressed turnout for the GOP (pay attention to the rash of retirements in Congress, they see what's about to happen and they want no part of it) that all Hillary (or Obama) have to do is turn out the same numbers they got in 2004 (59 million) and we won't be able to match that. Take a look at the dropoff in party support for GHW Bush in 1988 (49 million) vs. 1992 (39 million), and that gives you an idea. Except Conservatives (at this point) don't have a 3rd party to support in protest, so their failure to turn out will have ghastly repercussions for the Congressional vote (and I'm expecting upwards of losing 7 seats in the Senate and perhaps upwards of 30 in the House).

64 posted on 01/29/2008 11:02:41 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I'll say straight out that the majority of most states GOPs voting base are Conservatives.

I wouldn't disagree with you on that point. The rub, IMHO, centers around the fact that GOP nominees must have support from crossover, independent etc. sources; and that is what drives McCain, Romney and their ilk. By the way, I would much rather see Hillary as the Rat nominee.
65 posted on 01/29/2008 11:15:14 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Thompson is too conservative?

BS!

BFS!

His lifetime ACU rating is lower than McCain, Frist and Baker!!

No Conservative has RUN because Bush spent 8 years undermining them.


66 posted on 01/29/2008 11:20:46 AM PST by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I agree with you about Dole not being a RINO. He was viewed as a fire-breathing conservative when he came on the scene in the 1970's. He was put on the ticket in 1976 as a sop to conservatives when Reagan didn't get the nomination.

That said, by 1996 the movement spawned by Reagan's election had somewhat passed him by.

67 posted on 01/29/2008 11:21:40 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

The only problem with that statement about Jeb Bush is that Jeb Bush is also for the same amnesty for illegal immigrants programs that both President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain are for, and this fact would also help to divide the conservative base! Jeb is fine other than his views about the issue of illegal immigration.


68 posted on 01/29/2008 11:54:53 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Correct, as relates to SC at least.

Second, before “fly-over” Republicans, which make up the lions share of conservatives in the party, could cast a single vote, all conservatives were already run out of the race by early RINO state primaries where Independents and even Democrats have as much say about the RNC nominee as Republicans do.

The fact is, the RNC nomination process is designed to net a “moderate” candidate, not a conservative candidate. In this regard, it works perfectly.

But it is the conservative base of the party which is repeatedly out in the cold via that process.


69 posted on 01/29/2008 12:09:23 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: RachelFaith

Screw you and your ACU ratings...

Thompson’s voting record stands as is and his campaign platform was by far the most detailed and the most conservative.

Which RINO are you supporting? Or are you a Paulestinian fraud?


70 posted on 01/29/2008 12:13:41 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Well, the fact is Fred’s out of the race and if conservatives sit this one out, we’ll get President McCain, or, God help us, President Hillary (or Obama?). Think about a Dem sending two (at least) young, liberal, pro-abortion SCOTUS nominees to a Dem Senate.


71 posted on 01/29/2008 12:23:25 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: PlainOleAmerican

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957934/posts?page=182#182


72 posted on 01/29/2008 12:55:38 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: colorado tanker
Well, with Romney, those two young liberal pro-aborts will be his SCOTUS nominees. After all, Jerry Ford gave the court John Paul Stevens, ancient liberal trash closing in on 90 that still infests the court.
73 posted on 01/29/2008 12:57:46 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
In American politics a guy only gets one "flip." If he does two, he's finished. Romney can't flip back to pro-choice.

McCain, in contrast, is a charter member of the Gang of 14 and even though he's pro-life, would probably nominate a liberal just to suck up to Ted Kennedy.

74 posted on 01/29/2008 1:19:41 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Crazy talk, ain’t it? lol

If the same media managed to convince a large portion of America that Britney Spears had talent, they could convince them of anything! heheh


75 posted on 01/29/2008 1:20:45 PM PST by nodumbblonde
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To: colorado tanker

Of course he can flip back, because I don’t buy for half-a-second that he is remotely sincere. You can take this bank, there is nothing that comes out of Romney’s mouth that can be taken for honest when he is campaigning. Absolutely nothing. There’s a reason why I consider him the worst of the bunch. I also saw the trash he put on the bench in MA, and they can be summed up in two words: Kathe Tuttman. He just doesn’t care.


76 posted on 01/29/2008 1:38:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: colorado tanker

I see no significant difference between Clinton and McClinton. Huckabee might make a decent pastor, but a dangerous president.

Paul is a nut and a fraud.

Rudy (the last national security hawk in the race) is done after losing Florida.

The hold my nose and close my eyes candidate is fast becoming Mitt Romney. But beyond his business experience, I see nothing there to vote for either. MacArthur he ain’t... He’s FAR from cool under pressure. He ain’t even a lite-weight “W” in the war on terror, let alone the war against leftist Americans which also must be won.

Hard to get excited about voting for anything except congressional seats this time around.

We had better start focusing on congressional seats immediately. No matter who wins the WH, we’re going to need every vote we can get in congress...


77 posted on 01/29/2008 5:11:17 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Well, it’s clear tonight, after the returns are in, that Romney’s the only hope for an alternative to McQueeg.
78 posted on 01/29/2008 8:38:50 PM PST by colorado tanker
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