Skip to comments.Retired Green Beret shoots intruder, gets court martial
Posted on 01/30/2008 9:00:28 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
BREVARD, Jan. 19, 2008 - Retired Army Green Beret James T. (Smokey) Taylor got his court martial this weekend and came away feeling pretty good about it. Taylor, at age 79, is one of the oldest members of Chapter XXXIII (The Larry Thorne Chapter) of the Special Forces Association.He was placed on trial by fellow Chapter XXXIII members under the charge of failing to use a weapon of sufficient caliber in the shooting of an intruder at his home in Knoxville , TN , in November.
The court martial, of course, was very much tongue in cheek. The event itself was deadly serious. Taylor had been awakened in the early morning hours of November 5, 2007,when an intruder broke into his home. He investigated the noises with one of his many weapons in hand. It was just after Halloween, on Monday morning at 4:30, Taylor said. I heard this commotion at the door and grabbed my fishing gun, a little .22 revolver, to see what was going on. I got to the front door and this fellow had ripped my security door out of its frame. He said, youre going to have to kill me. Im coming in.
When a warning to leave went unheeded, Taylor brought his .22 caliber pistol to bear and shot him right between the eyes. I was about four feet away from him when I shot, Taylor said. Looking back now, Im glad he didnt die, but that boy had the hardest head Ive ever seen. The bullet bounced right off. The impact knocked the would-be thief down momentarily. He crawled out of the house then got up and ran down the street. Taylor dialed 911 and Knoxville police apprehended the wounded man about 200 yards away, hiding in a hedgerow.
Complicating the case, as well as the court martial, the offender was released on bail but failed to appear for his court date. Knoxville police said the man was homeless. They did not know his whereabouts or why he had been given bail. The charges brought against Taylor by his fellow Green Berets were considered to be serious. He is a retired Special Forces Weapons Sergeant with extensive combat experience during the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Charges were brought against him under the premise that he should have saved the county and taxpayers the expense of a trial, said Chapter XXXIII President Bill Long of Asheville , NC.
The trial was held at the Hampton Inn in Brevard, part of the groups regularly scheduled quarterly meeting. Long appointed a judge, Bert Bates, a defense counsel, Jim Hash, and a prosecutor, Charlie Ponds. All are retired Special Forces non-commissioned officers with extensive combat and weapons experience. Ponds outlined the case against Taylor , emphasizing that the citizens of Knox County were going to be burdened with significant costs to again apprehend, and then prosecute and defend the would-be burglar.
Proper choice of a larger caliber gun would have spared the citizens this financial burden, Ponds said, while removing one bad guy from the streets for good. He could have used a .45 or .38. The .22 just wasnt big enough to get the job done. Hash disagreed. He said Taylor had done the right thing in choosing to arm himself with a 22. If hed used a .45 or something like that the round would have gone right through the perp, the wall, the neighbors wall and possibly injured some innocent child asleep in its bed. I believe the evidence shows that Smokey Taylor exercised excellent judgment in his choice of weapons. He clearly remains to this day an excellent weapons man.
Hash then floated a theory as to why the bullet bounced off the perps forehead. He was victimized by old ammunition, he said, just as he was in Korea and again in Vietnam , when his units were issued ammo left over from World War II. Taylor said nothing in his own defense, choosing instead to allow his peers to debate the matter. The jury, consisting of all the members of the Chapter, discussed the merits of choosing a larger caliber weapon as well as the obvious benefits to society of permanently deleting the intruder so he would never again threaten any private citizen. The other side of the coin, that of accidentally causing injury to a completely innocent citizen if a more powerful gun had been used, also gained considerable support.
Following testimony from both sides, Judge Bates determined the charges should be dismissed. The decision was met with a round of applause. In fact, there was strong sentiment expressed that Taylor should receive an award for not only choosing wisely in picking up the 22, but for the accuracy of his aim under difficult and dangerous conditions. After the trial Taylor said the ammunition was indeed old and added the new information that the perp had soiled his pants as he crawled out the door. I would have had an even worse mess to clean up if it had gone through his forehead, Taylor said. It was good for both of us that it didnt. Meanwhile, back in Knox County , the word is out: Dont go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.
[Tribune Editor Bill Fishburne is a member of the Larry Thorne Chapter XXXIII of the Special Forces Association. Hat tip Oswald Bastables Ranting.]
Saw this on another forum, great stuff!
scrappleface? has to be... but then again we live in strange times. the good get punished, and the bad get exalted to unseen heights.
Great bunch of guys!
Too funny, perhaps a .22 mag would be a happy middle ground?
But, seriously, kudos to the old guy for a well placed and accurate shot. Most of us couldn't do that well under stress.
Forwarding to the local SF chapter.
Perhaps the security that can be ripped down should have been on trial.
Good shootin', Smokey! Git some ...
BUMP for excellence in posting!
...way to go smokie! We need more folks willing to act in such a manner in such circumstances.
Great read ping!
Good for Smokey Taylor and his fellow Special Forces.
“That’s going to leave a mark” ping!
DECATUR, Ga. (AP) - When 74-year-old J.C. Adams saw three would-be robbers walk into his convenience store, he grabbed his shotgun with one hand and balanced himself on his walker with the other. On a surveillance monitor, he saw two men and a woman hold up an employee at the cash register Thursday night. That's when Adams pushed his walker to the front of the store and confronted the armed suspects, killing one man and wounding the other. An employee held the woman until police arrived.
"No need to let something like that live," said Adams, who had been wounded in a May 2000 robbery attempt in which he killed another intruder.
In his 26 years as owner of the Pac A Sac, a convenience store in a middle-class suburb just off Lawrenceville Highway, Adams has been robbed 12 times. He keeps the shotgun nearby now as he watches the store monitors. The walker he uses because of a recent knee surgery.
74-Year-Old Convenience Store Owner on Walker Fatally Shoots Would-Be Robber. Samira Jafari. Associated Press, January 10, 2003.
De Oppresso Libre, Thank you Smokey for your service.
AT 4 feet? shoot the bad guy in the eye with a .22 ... he wont get up.
Where there’s Smokey, there’s (gun)fire.
Good on you Smokey.
After the trial Taylor said the ammunition was indeed old and added the new information that the perp had soiled his pants as he crawled out the door. I would have had an even worse mess to clean up if it had gone through his forehead,
I nominate this man for an award of merit. He has demonstrated excellent marksmanship, weapon selection and a keen sense of the negative impact of collateral damage. I do not know what the proper institution would be to bestow such an award. I do however believe that if this president is truly pro second amendmant such an award should be made at a state dinner held at the White House will all of the pomp and regalia such an event would normally be held with in honor of this great man he is a credit to his nation and a example that every young Black man should endeavor to emmulate.
.22 isn’t even a great caliber for accuracy. .22lr is great for accuracy. Given that this bullet bounced off, I’d wager it was just a .22 short.
i suppose it’s too much to hope for but, was there a video of this trial? that would be priceless!
I think the “litter” policed itself out of the AO ... problem now seems to be locating said litter for apprehension and proper disposal.
I tell you what, though... I bet that guy had a headache.
Headache or no, I hope the kid mends his ways faster than his wound heals.
If ever someone had a right to think that maybe he was supposed to live and make something of himself, it’s that kid.
If he doesn’t, there’s plenty more new, shiny, and more effective bullets waiting for him down the road.
that is a new term for me.
Good shoot'in but get a bigger gun.
In my river bank fishing days in the south it was used for snakes.
But a head shot with a .22?
I was an Army PILOT, and I know better than that.
A hollow point round in larger caliber would not have traveled too far.
Them Tennessee catfish can get a mite ornery.
Fresh, long rifle hollow points I hope.
I give up. Why do you call it a "security door" ?
Well, he did say he used his fishing pistol...man that is so great....LOL!
In NC, it is legal to carry a .22 caliber pistol out of hunting season, most people carry them when fishing around areas were snakes could be hiding in the grass etc.
In rural areas it is not uncommon at all to see fisherman armed thusly.
Probably high on meth. Good work, Sarge!
Yeah - the scum himself has saved the taxpayer’s money by skipping bail. Too bad Smokey didn’t drop him where he stood. I hope they catch the guy before he breaks into a house with some unprepared gal at home. However, an A++ for effort by Smokey!
OK, now that’s funny. “Use enough gun.” If it works, it’s enough gun.
Yes! .22mag. is not too shabby on the ballistics side