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(Forbes) Worst Places: America's Most Miserable Cities
Forbes ^ | 1/30/08 | Kurt Badenhausen

Posted on 01/31/2008 9:39:40 AM PST by MotleyGirl70

Edited on 02/01/2008 2:28:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Imagine living in a city with the country's highest rate for violent crime and the second-highest unemployment rate. As an added kicker you need more Superfund dollars allocated to your city to clean up contaminated toxic waste sites than just about any other metro.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bluezones; charlotte; chicago; cities; detroit; filthydelphia; flint; losangeles; miserablecities; modesto; newyork; providence; stockton; topten; urban
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To: MotleyGirl70; Sterm26; Williams
Do you have any Guidos in Philly. I know most of them reside in L.I., NY but some must migrate to other cities on the East Coast.

Former LI Guido here. Yes, there are Guidos in Philly, although most seemed to have moved to South Jersey, where they sit in "hoagie" shops bragging about their old Iroc RZ. ;-)

121 posted on 01/31/2008 11:02:34 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: o_zarkman44
Study had to have 330k population.

That explains why New Jersey cities like Newark and Camden haven't made the list.

122 posted on 01/31/2008 11:05:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

I immediately thought “Detroit” before opening.

Sad when moronic voters keep voting for the Demorat crooks that are in the pocket of the selfish UAW.


123 posted on 01/31/2008 11:06:56 AM PST by Tigercap (I endorse Fred)
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To: Alberta's Child

Newark had about 550-600,000 inhabitants when my father was growing up there. That was back in the 1950s-early 60s, however.


124 posted on 01/31/2008 11:07:32 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Clemenza

Plenty of guidos, though, sadly, most are aging. The youths that used to be guidos are now, um, how to put this....ethnically confused?


125 posted on 01/31/2008 11:08:18 AM PST by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: mrsmel

Chicago is there mostly because of the bad weather. No politician can do anything about that. Lucky for Chicago, the Democrat mayor runs (some may say rule) it like a Republican. He’s is very pro business. Unfortunately he does not believe in the 2nd amendment.


126 posted on 01/31/2008 11:10:44 AM PST by winner3000
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To: MotleyGirl70

All cities are miserable.


127 posted on 01/31/2008 11:15:30 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Clemenza

“... recent immigrants, they will tell you what hell it is to live in New York in their condition..” as opposed to WHAT? Port au Prince? Santo Domingo?

NYC has welcomed immigrants forever, most of whom lived in what we would consider horrible conditions, my ancestors among them. Still it beat all hell out of the homeland .. previous immigrants understood that .. that the US/NYC represented the opportunity for them to provide better lives for their children, and their children’s children.
The streets were not paved with gold for any of them. It’s their children and their children’s children who now live in the large houses on the large lots in suburbia.


128 posted on 01/31/2008 11:16:14 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Sterm26
The youths that used to be guidos are now, um, how to put this....ethnically confused?

When I lived in Brooklyn in 04-06, the remaining leftover Italian American yutes either went hipster/goth or went ghetto, if you catch my drift.

129 posted on 01/31/2008 11:25:29 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: EDINVA

My point is that apartment and rowhouse living is not their ultimate goal. They think places like Staten Island or Clifton, NJ are better than Queens or Brooklyn because they can have a bigger place and a yard. Glamourous Manhattan living is something they just can’t fathom.


130 posted on 01/31/2008 11:27:11 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: winner3000

The weather would be a plus for me, I am sick to death of running the A/C in the winter, and unending humidity.


131 posted on 01/31/2008 11:29:56 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Allegra
I breathed a sigh of relief to see that Houston was not, either.

Am surprised you thought Houston would be on the list. I just moved to Houston....from Detroit. Trust me, Houston is a major step up!! I've been here 5 months and haven't heard a gunshot yet (although I live by Univ of St Thomas near the Menil museum. It's maybe not so bad here). There is some crime in the area, but it's not near as bad as Detroit.

Houston' actually O.K. Kinda sweaty and gritty, but not bad. I like sports a lot too, so I feel at home. It's hotter than blazes in the summer though. Although it's not the best place I've ever lived in (Prague and Monterey, Ca are the two best), it's not the worst by a long shot. The bottom two for me are Dresden Germany and of course "De-troilet." Wouldn't live there again for anything, although there are some great suburbs. A lot of good people too. Very sad what's happened there.

132 posted on 01/31/2008 11:35:22 AM PST by ishmac
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To: Age of Reason
All cities are miserable.

I don't think that's true. Most major cities across America have both good and bad things about them.

133 posted on 01/31/2008 11:40:25 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: ishmac
Am surprised you thought Houston would be on the list.

Oh, Houston is my home and I am quite fond of it. My reaction was due to the fact that a lot of these "Worst Cities" lists tend to beat up on Houston quite a bit.

I come from the Westchase area...nice, mellow part of town for the most part.

I'm glad you like Houston. You'll have to meet up with the Houston FReepers sometime. They're a great bunch of people.

GO TEXANS! GO ASTROS! :)

134 posted on 01/31/2008 11:57:18 AM PST by Allegra (A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
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To: ishmac

Dresden AND Detroit? I thought they were the same place!


135 posted on 01/31/2008 12:27:04 PM PST by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Clemenza

Most of ours went ghetto.....


136 posted on 01/31/2008 12:27:37 PM PST by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Clemenza
BTW: WTF is up with “hoagies

I remember going to a “Deli” in the Poconos and asking for a Ham and Cheese Wedge. The said “a what”. I do not use the term Hoagie I say “sandwich”. I can’t even get the word Hoagie out of my mouth to say it is too embarrassing.

137 posted on 01/31/2008 12:28:02 PM PST by angcat (We Gave the Clintons A Chance We Got 9/11..........Stop Hillary Now!)
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To: Sterm26
Poor Dresden. The place was really beautiful before the war. The RAF (with some assistance from us) turned the place into an cinder heap. The socialist rebuilders turned it into a model of "soviet style" city. Dreary as hell, the worst of all possible worlds. That's what they get for electing Hitler--sow the winds, reap the whirlwinds.

At least people in Detroit could flee someplace else. The Dresdeners were stuck behind a wall for 45 years.

138 posted on 01/31/2008 12:52:07 PM PST by ishmac
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To: ishmac

Didn’t the Communists leave a large portion of the as wrecked to show the “evils of the capitalists”? I thought that I read it somewhere.

Dresden is what the socialist rulers of Detroit (and most of our oter large cities, mine included) want.


139 posted on 01/31/2008 12:56:02 PM PST by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Allegra
I'm glad you like Houston.

I like Texas generally. I was stationed out in San Angelo one summer when I was in the Army. San Angelo could qualify as "the middle of nowhere," but I liked it. People were great. They really make you feel at home. I remember thinking it would be great to live down here some day.

Hey, do you mind if I ask you a question? I expected people in Houston to talk with big Texas accents like you hear on T.V. Some folks do, but a lot of people talk like me--a small-town guy from Michigan. Why is that? Maybe I just spend too much time around academics. I know there are a lot of transplants here, too. Anyway, just curious.

140 posted on 01/31/2008 12:57:19 PM PST by ishmac
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