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Posted on 02/01/2008 7:45:31 PM PST by Bruce 22-250

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To: 3AngelaD

That is un-called for. Most people have never seen the destruction wolves do. I don’t think putting ranchers out of business is something to joke about.


61 posted on 02/01/2008 9:14:12 PM PST by Bruce 22-250 (Vote stop the WITCH!)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Also, welcome to FR. You must be the anti-hinting DU crowd that migrated over here a couple of years ago. Have fun saving the whales and stuff


62 posted on 02/01/2008 9:14:47 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: freeplancer
People like you are idiots and are the reason hunting is becoming picked on more and more in society.

PLEASE people, READ ALL THE COMMENTS BEFORE YOU POST SEE #55

I'm not going to explain this again.
63 posted on 02/01/2008 9:14:49 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: freeplancer

Can you read? I joined a year and a half ago. Little late with the “welcome.”


64 posted on 02/01/2008 9:15:20 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: freeplancer
but not in snow during the winter. Do some research before you spew your “opinion”

This isn't my opinion, it came from a ranger at Yellowstone who studies the wolves. Why don't YOU do some research and quit assuming that everything I say in my opinion and has no factual value.

And about wolves wiping out deer/elk....that's because people aren't allowed to hunt them and keep the wolf pop. in check, so their #s explode and they eat all the deer. READ NUMBER FREAKING 55.
65 posted on 02/01/2008 9:17:58 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat

You have only lived in California and Maryland and you are a Wolf expert?!??!?!? That is to funny. My hunch is that you might have had an interest in biology and might have even went to college and had some activist “teach” you his/her opinions disguised as facts and you swallowed them. You don’t know squat about wolves so nice try.


66 posted on 02/01/2008 9:20:20 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: freeplancer

Can you read? I didn’t say I was a wolf expert, I said I’m basing my “opinion” on the words of a someone who studies wolves. What makes YOU a wolf expert.

And quit assuming that I’m some kind of liberal asshole just because my “opinions” don’t line up with yours. If I were a liberal I wouldn’t be here.


67 posted on 02/01/2008 9:22:34 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: freeplancer

might have even went to college and had some activist “teach” you his/her opinions disguised as facts and you swallowed them.

You're wrong again. I TOLD you I got this from a Yellowstone ranger not some college activist. Learn to read please.
68 posted on 02/01/2008 9:23:33 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: freeplancer

...and I suppose being to Germay, Iraq, Panama, and Afghanistan makes you a wolf expert. That is too funny.


69 posted on 02/01/2008 9:24:58 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat; Myrddin; redpoll; Eska; girlangler; Troublemaker; claudiustg; Varmint Al; Calpernia; ..

Yellowstone Wolf Experiment Out of Control

It is with great sadness that I write this column. You didn’t have to be a wildlife biologist to foresee the outcome when you mix Canadian timber wolves with the wildlife of Yellowstone National Park. Yellowstone’s wildlife populations have plummeted.

Wolves are brutal, vicious predators and have a tremendous impact on all wildlife in any ecosystem.

The original plan was for 78-100 wolves to be introduced into Yellowstone. Of course, you realize hunting is not permitted in Yellowstone or any other National Park.

In less than 10 years the effect wolves have had on Yellowstone’s wildlife has been nothing less than devastating. Elk populations hang around 10,000; the moose and deer are almost completely gone. Antelope went from 600 to 200 specimens. Sheep populations have fallen from 300 to 40, possibly an inadequate amount to repopulate the Park.

Wolves are attacking horses, mules, livestock and stalking children. The economic health of the region has collapsed and so has the outfitting business north of Yellowstone.

The wolves are multiplying at the rate of 34% a year. There are now 370 wolves in Yellowstone and 770 in the tri-state area of Montana, Wyoming and Idaho. Wildlife in that region is getting hammered.

Forget what you heard about wolves killing only the weak and sick. Wolves are canines and like dogs, they kill by instinct and for fun.

Aerial photographs document dead, red wildlife carcasses over the landscape. Wolves practice “surplus killing” whether they are hungry or not.

http://www.theoutdoorlodge.com/features/articles/outdoors/yellowstone_wolf_experiment.html


70 posted on 02/01/2008 9:30:30 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Yes, that is true. But people are taking my comments out of context. I am not saying wolf populations should be allowed to explode unchecked. That is foolish. Hunting them is essential to maintain ecological balance and keep livestock numbers from plummeting.


71 posted on 02/01/2008 9:32:15 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat

I have done years of research as I have:

1) Flown for the state of Alaska doing Wolf counts for more than 8 years.
2) Recieved my first B.S. degree in WB.
3) Interned with Montana FW&P doing telemetry on Elk Calves
4) Worked as hunting guide for 5 years in wolf country

I promise you that I have spent more time on the $hitter than you have in the outdoors so go watch your discovery shows sonny and quit wasting people’s time. Also, first you say it is impossible for wolves to anialate a species because of preproduction, and then you change that to “that’s because people aren’t allowed to hunt them and keep the wolf pop. in check”. Whatever, you have offically been demoted to a wanna-be expert.


72 posted on 02/01/2008 9:35:26 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: G8 Diplomat
There are moose and coyotes in New York? Okkk...

Don't know about moose but we have a coyote problem in Orange County NY. There are rural areas where they live quite happily. Unfortunately for us.

73 posted on 02/01/2008 9:36:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Also, your tagline is something that is learned on the very fist day of Biology 101. I take it back that you might have studied somewhere. You are just a child


74 posted on 02/01/2008 9:38:05 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: freeplancer
Also, first you say it is impossible for wolves to anialate a species because of preproduction

Well then, why didn't wolves annihilate all the elk, moose, and deer throughout the course of history?

I never said I was an "expert." I just love it when people think what are what they assume to be, and not what I mean them to be.
75 posted on 02/01/2008 9:39:05 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: freeplancer

And when did I say my tagline was any indicator of my knowledge of biology??? Nowhere did I say I was an omniscient expert.


76 posted on 02/01/2008 9:39:58 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yeah, sorry...I was thinking NY City for some reason. There are moose in the upper part of the state.


77 posted on 02/01/2008 9:40:40 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat
Ho boy. I think you need to read through all the comments on this thread, in particular #55.

Maybe you should follow your own advice, pal. I was previewing my response while you posted #55. After re-reading this thread, you really come across as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

BTW - wtf is Ho boy?

78 posted on 02/01/2008 9:42:49 PM PST by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

I’m happy to report that I only have to deal with coyotes and no moose. ;) But it is scary to have coyotes standing across the road, watching us.


79 posted on 02/01/2008 9:44:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Will I learned a lot tonight. But the biggest thing I learned was G8 is a young lady.

George that study is a great one but it is even worst now. That was 2002.


80 posted on 02/01/2008 9:44:16 PM PST by Bruce 22-250 (Vote stop the WITCH!)
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