Let me reassure you. The ammunition for M-4 rifles or MP5 submachine guns is not considered high powered ammunition by anyone who knows what constitutes high powered ammunition. There's no there, there. It's not that the ammunition can't be lethal. It's just not high powered ammunition. I hope the projectiles that the NYPD will use will shatter on impact, i.e. it's frangible. IMHO, what's a self-proclaiming, black clad SWAT team with a bomb dog supposed to do? They need bomb dogs that can act like seeing eye dogs with nondescript dog handlers who have communication for a SWAT team back-up.
Chester Higgins Jr./The New York Times
Counterterrorism teams like these city detectives armed with M-4 rifles will patrol the subways.
What a weird camera angle?
1 posted on
02/02/2008 1:49:32 AM PST by
neverdem
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To: neverdem
But King Bloomie hates guns! This can’t be! /S
To: neverdem
Yes, it is a weird camera angle.
As for putting armed officers in subways — good, very good.
3 posted on
02/02/2008 1:53:12 AM PST by
Cindy
To: neverdem
They are supposed to do what all the scary looking gun toting goons posted on the street corners of dictatorships worldwide ... intimidate people. Now we have our own goons. It always comes down to this.
4 posted on
02/02/2008 2:11:52 AM PST by
Tarpon
(Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
To: neverdem
They need bomb dogs that can act like seeing eye dogs with nondescript dog handlers who have communication for a SWAT team back-up.That is one good idea!
6 posted on
02/02/2008 2:30:34 AM PST by
Kakaze
(Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
To: neverdem
Plan on seeing this around the country too. The Federalization and militarization of police is going full speed with DHS. Now the legalistic wrangling of the Posse Comitatus to within the framework or the Northern Command becomes clearer.
14 posted on
02/02/2008 2:52:02 AM PST by
endthematrix
(He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
To: neverdem
Somehow, the faces in the photo don’t inspire confidence in me. I would rather take care of myself, thank you!
15 posted on
02/02/2008 2:53:43 AM PST by
SWAMPSNIPER
(THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
To: neverdem
Is this a sudden decision, or one that was made years ago, and the ‘gubmint’ is just getting around to it!
17 posted on
02/02/2008 2:55:06 AM PST by
airborne
(It's way past time for a revolution!)
To: neverdem
It would be much easier to just deport anyone who belongs to the subversive group that plans to take over the USA and convert it to its ideology by violent means.
To: neverdem
If I were a law enforcement type I would get the hell away from New York, pronto!
40 posted on
02/02/2008 4:28:12 AM PST by
Waco
To: neverdem
I remember the days when the image of civilian police with military gear in our streets would have caused a riot around here.
I don’t think anyone can really come up with a legitimate reason to arm cops with these weapons. If there is a real military threat, the Army should be defending against it, not civilians. And if there is no such threat... the question remains, to whom is this show of force directed?
To: neverdem
The POSSIBILITY of lightly-armed CITIZENS would accomplish the stated objective although not the real objectives.
48 posted on
02/02/2008 5:17:25 AM PST by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: neverdem
A week before last Tuesday I was getting on the uptown W/R train at Whitehall Street. As I went down the stairs I passed two uniformed police officers. On the escalator I passed two more. On the platform there were pairs of officers every third or fourth girder.
Something was up. The next night, just a couple of officers total.
Perhaps NYPD would rather deter the criminals with shows of force rather than trying to catch them afterward. It supposedly worked when Al Qaida was trying to sabotage the Brooklyn Bridge. NYPD flooded the zone and they gave up.
52 posted on
02/02/2008 7:01:13 AM PST by
Dilbert56
(Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
To: neverdem
This is part of a larger strategy to have in place a heavily armed police force when the government hands down the order for all citizens to turn in their guns.
And they know who you are, too. They’ve been reading Free Republic.
56 posted on
02/02/2008 7:21:51 AM PST by
Fido969
("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
To: neverdem
New Operation to Put Heavily Armed Officers in Subways They are going to set up Ma Dueces in the subway stations, and equip the officers patroling in the tunnels with LAWs? No .22 caliber rifle makes someone "heavily armed".
Not sure I care for the idea of NYPD officers having automatic weapons (or even semiautomatic rifles) in a crowded subway. They have historically had problems with "target ID", and restraint.
Detectives using M4s as investigative tools? Scary.
57 posted on
02/02/2008 8:41:25 AM PST by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: neverdem
Don’t need all of those guys, there we two sets of officers searching bags at the subway to Grand Central Terminal.
64 posted on
02/02/2008 10:59:47 AM PST by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
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Oh, and I guess this means I can’t have a small folding knife attached to my belt now.
Thanks for taking away my only feasible means of self-defense when I go into NYC, Bloomberg.
The things I could scream about him would give a priest a heart attack.
65 posted on
02/02/2008 11:01:16 AM PST by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
To: neverdem
82 posted on
02/02/2008 4:44:39 PM PST by
TexanToTheCore
(If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
To: neverdem
They’re gonna need a boat to get to North Africa...
90 posted on
02/02/2008 9:41:47 PM PST by
Axenolith
(Brother, Can you spare a tagline?)
To: neverdem
The subways in New York will look like the airports in Germany and Belgium. There were plenty of cops walking the streets of Izmir, Turkey with 9mm sub guns when I last visited. An extra measure of situational awareness would be prudent when sharing spaces with these guys.
93 posted on
02/02/2008 9:48:29 PM PST by
Myrddin
To: neverdem
armed with automatic rifles
Anyone else think automatic weapons aren't the best choice for patrolling the subway?
97 posted on
02/02/2008 10:24:24 PM PST by
javachip
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