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McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming
Crosswalk (appropriate name considering how often McCain crosses the aile to stand with Dims) ^ | Unkown | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 02/02/2008 4:01:49 AM PST by Caipirabob

A panel discussion on global climate change Tuesday found Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) staff agreeing with representatives for the leading Democratic presidential contenders. A cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, they agreed, is the most promising solution to "global warming."

A cap and trade system would involve limits or caps (lower than current levels) on the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions produced by polluters like power plants. But companies able to cut their CO2 output at a low cost would be able to sell their left-over pollution permits to companies facing higher costs.

John Raidt, a policy advisor to McCain, said during a discussion at the left-leaning Brookings Institution that the Arizona Republican is a "foremost proponent of carbon cap-and-trade."

Raidt said McCain supports a cap-and-trade system above taxes on carbon emissions because "cap-and-trade is a market-driven, proven way."

The position put McCain in league with leading Democratic contenders - Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina - whose policy advisors also participated in the discussion.

(Excerpt) Read more at crosswalk.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: environment; globalwarming; mccain; mccaingore; mccaingwarming; mccrazy; mcfraud; rinomccain; traitor
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All you FReepers who support McCain, you're on your own. I just won't do it. Hasta la vista (that means "See y'all later" in Spanish, get used to it if McAmnesty is the nominee, esé.)

1 posted on 02/02/2008 4:01:52 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Caipirabob

I’d rather be waterboarded seven days a week than vote for McCain.


2 posted on 02/02/2008 4:06:43 AM PST by reasonisfaith (If John McCain tells the truth about himself he cannot win)
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To: Caipirabob

It’s finally gonna happen...the GOP is gonna nominate a Democrat.

I will vote third party.


3 posted on 02/02/2008 4:07:08 AM PST by kjo
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To: Caipirabob

McCain has never been in the private sector has he????
McCain has been always paid by the Federal government for the work he does whether he was in the military or in Congress

McCain’s take on the economy is as out of whack as any Democrat socialist like Hillary or Obama who also have zero private sector experience and none in business

Business for all these idiots is the business of Gubbermint and what Gubbermint does with your tax dollars


4 posted on 02/02/2008 4:07:16 AM PST by dennisw (NEVER bet on Islam!)
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To: Caipirabob
Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) staff agreeing with representatives for the leading Democratic presidential contenders.

I'm shocked.

Juan is STILL calling himself a "republican."

5 posted on 02/02/2008 4:08:03 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Caipirabob
“Top of the world ma!”


6 posted on 02/02/2008 4:11:19 AM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: TLI

One more reason we MUST NOT ALLOW this turkey to prevail.


7 posted on 02/02/2008 4:13:05 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: johnny7

This is going to be a huge disaster for the Republican party...it means conservatives are being read out of the party...fine, I will leave and work within a third party movement...don’t know which one yet...but I AM OUTTA HERE.


8 posted on 02/02/2008 4:13:41 AM PST by kjo
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To: Caipirabob

It’s beginning to look as though the electorate is so brainwashed by the media that we can’t have either an intelligent debate or a real-choice-election.


9 posted on 02/02/2008 4:18:21 AM PST by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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To: dennisw

Juan McCain’s worked in the business sector for two years or less. For his new father in law’s beer distributorship. He then ran for Congress and has been plaguing us ever since. I would say McCain’s main business experience is talking to agri-business lobbyists and pledging to support illegal alien amnesties.
McCain has nearly always been in the employ of the Federal Gubbermint. Bound to give one a lopsided view how America works. The America they tax and then do stupid crap with these extorted funds.

FROM WIKIPEDIA-—>>>

U.S. Congressman and more children
Living in Phoenix, McCain went to work for his new father-in-law Jim Hensley’s large Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship as Vice President of Public Relations,[54] where he gained political support among the local business community,[55] meeting powerful figures such as banker Charles Keating, Jr., real estate developer Fife Symington III,[54] and newspaper publisher Darrow “Duke” Tully,[55] all the while looking for an electoral opportunity.[54] When John Jacob Rhodes, Jr., the longtime Republican congressman from Arizona’s 1st congressional district, announced his retirement, McCain ran for the seat as a Republican in 1982.[57] McCain faced two experienced state legislators in the Republican nomination process, and as a newcomer to the state was hit with repeated charges of being a carpetbagger.[54]


10 posted on 02/02/2008 4:20:56 AM PST by dennisw (NEVER bet on Islam!)
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To: kjo

In 2009 my car will have a bumper sticker reading —

“Don’t blame me I didn’t vote for McCain”


11 posted on 02/02/2008 4:22:42 AM PST by dennisw (NEVER bet on Islam!)
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To: Caipirabob

But, But...He’s a real conservative. Mike Medved said so last night!


12 posted on 02/02/2008 4:24:24 AM PST by Jagman (Lapdogs rule!)
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To: Caipirabob

Unbelievable! There is absolutely no mechanism by which CO2 can cause any change to climate as claimed. There is also no way I will vote for McCain and the Democrats know this. Time to rally behind Mitt.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 4:24:48 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: All

Most Freepers did NOT support McCain before Thompson left the race and I think it is still safe to say that MOST Freepers do not want him now.

But that does not alter the fact that he will probably win the nomination. Staying home and “not voting” just because we hate him will not stop him from winning. Only Obama can stop him, but Obama will be worse than McCain as Obama will withdraw all of our troops from Iraq before we should and then global warming will end:

1. We remove our troops from Iraq.
2. Chaos grows in Iraq and spreads in the Middle East.
3. With WWIII starting in the Middle East, the flow of oil will stop.
4. The global price of oil will increase dramatically, with the global economy likewise going into CHAOS.
5. Global economic depression will result in a reduction in “greenhouse gases”.
6. But wait.. this won’t stop climate change, because it isn’t caused by man.. but the SUN!
7. As global temperatures continue to rise, we will suffer from more droughts and mass starvation, with our economies too poor to be able to fight back.

A rather extreme scenario.. but not impossible.

McCain=Hillary=Obama=DOOM!

I think the ONLY possible hope is that McCain picks Fred as a running mate, then Johnny only serves one term, or better yet has to leave office for... a.. health reasons.


14 posted on 02/02/2008 4:27:26 AM PST by aj7360
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To: Halgr

“One more reason we MUST NOT ALLOW this turkey to prevail.”

bttt

We have three days to stop him if you want to help us.

The calls you make that connect you to voters could put Mitt over the top, they could mean the difference in determining our next president. Please join us during all or some of the following times by emailing “I want to win” to CallatHome@MittRomney.com.

Pass this info on to as many people as possible. I signed up yesterday along with a bunch of other people I know.


15 posted on 02/02/2008 4:29:31 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Hispanics for amnesty , old folks, Libs, were key to McCain's victory in Florida)
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To: Caipirabob

McCain clearly would have signed onto Kyoto and crippled the US ecconomy. he would then have tried to tax and fix.


16 posted on 02/02/2008 4:29:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Caipirabob

Tobacco use and Y2K did us in, remember. Idiots!


17 posted on 02/02/2008 4:42:06 AM PST by Waco
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To: Caipirabob

TO: mcinsaniacs

NEVER... NEVER... NEVER! will I vote mcinsane... NEVER!

LLS


18 posted on 02/02/2008 4:42:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Caipirabob

The Mainstream Media is counting on the fact that most Conservatives will not vote for John McCain.

The Republican Party has fallen for it. The RINOs are in charge. I will not assist them.

Hillary may be bad for the country for a while, but a McCain presidency could damage the country forever. Conservatives and the conservative ideology would be relegated to fringe status and no longer have any impact on national politics.

The Media, Democrats and RINO Repubicans appear to have won this battle. I will not help them win the war.


19 posted on 02/02/2008 4:44:45 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: Caipirabob

This clown will screw up the country as badly as did Bill Clinton.

No, no, NO - I will NOT vote for John McCain under ANY circumstance.


20 posted on 02/02/2008 4:50:05 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

We know why the MSM, RINOs and Democrats wanted all the primaries held earlier and closer together:

It makes it easier to control the sheeple.

By the time Republicans who don’t keep up with politics daily figure out the real McCain, it will be too late. The Republicans are split, conservatives are marginalized and a Democrat wins the White House.

Or, even if McCain wins, conservatives are still marginalized and the Republican party moves so far left (reflecting the will of the people, of course), it becomes an ineffective Centrist party.

The Mainstream Media is very powerful. They control the flow information to the general populace. They won.


21 posted on 02/02/2008 4:53:05 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: Caipirabob

McCain once again trying to out liberal Obama and Clinton. He does it so well.


22 posted on 02/02/2008 5:09:25 AM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Voted for Fred but now for Mitt. Huck sucks and McCain's deranged.)
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To: longtermmemmory
McCain clearly would have signed onto Kyoto and crippled the US ecconomy. he would then have tried to tax and fix.

No surprise there. Why anyone would vote for someone who has as much admitted that he knows diddly-squat about economics is a puzzlement to me...especially with the huge crisis of baby boomers taking their entitlements now upon us.

Not only will I not vote for John McCain, but I will do my best to discourage others from doing so.

23 posted on 02/02/2008 5:11:12 AM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: rightinthemiddle

I agree up to “they won”... they may... but we will only know come Tuesday.

LLS


24 posted on 02/02/2008 5:12:37 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Caipirabob

I will never vote for McLame.


25 posted on 02/02/2008 5:12:46 AM PST by exnavy ( note to islamists,God means love, not hate.)
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To: RoadTest

“”It’s beginning to look as though the electorate is so brainwashed by the media that we can’t have either an intelligent debate or a real-choice-election.””

That was the purpose of McCain-Fiengold. That legislation amplified the power of the media and weakened free speech.


26 posted on 02/02/2008 5:16:02 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: Caipirabob

McKennedy...er...McCain has only demonstrated that his science IQ is right down there with his immigration IQ, his economic IQ, and his honesty quotient. He’s a slug.


27 posted on 02/02/2008 5:19:14 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: dennisw
Well, if you were a FRedHead you could have one of these instead!


28 posted on 02/02/2008 5:31:57 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rightinthemiddle
The Mainstream Media is very powerful. They control the flow information to the general populace. They won.

There it is.

That's a shame too because of there only being a couple of ways to handle that. MSM has kinda "painted themselves into a corner."

29 posted on 02/02/2008 5:34:56 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Caipirabob

Wouldn’t it be nice if McCain was as mean, vindictive, unyielding, uncompromising and backstabbing to Democrats as he is to members of his own party?


30 posted on 02/02/2008 5:37:21 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Caipirabob
This is issue #17 of my "McCain Dealkiller" list.

I will _never_ vote for a candidate who prattles on about global warming.

Never, ever.

"Global warming" is the rallying cry of those who have declared war on the liberties of people in the United States and throughout the world.
31 posted on 02/02/2008 5:39:55 AM PST by cgbg ("A skilled commander seeks victory from..situation..does not demand it of..subordinates." Sun Tzu)
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To: All
If you really feel that way, then at least have the decency to call for the complete withdrawal of our troops, not only from Iraq and Afghanistan, but everywhere overseas and let what will happen happen. I have two relatives in the Marines. One is in Iraq now. The other was in second battle of Fallujah. I also have a good friend in the Army National Guard who is at Fort Irwin preparing to deploy to Iraq. The idea of Hillary/Obama as Commander In Chief dismays me beyond description.
32 posted on 02/02/2008 5:48:30 AM PST by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: Caipirabob

Any human who thinks man can control climate change is mentally retarded. I find it hard to believe that John McCain thinks the United States government can do anything to control the sun’s activities. Did he truly talk about controlling the climate?


33 posted on 02/02/2008 5:51:04 AM PST by abclily
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To: Caipirabob

This is one conservative who will NOT rally around McCain.

Never. If he is the nominee - tough luck. If this is the choice I have, I’ll vote the lower end of the ticket, but leave the top spot open.

If I want to vote for a liberal for president, I’ll vote for a democrat.


34 posted on 02/02/2008 5:51:06 AM PST by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: Caipirabob

With of the serious problems we have in this country i.e. war, terrorism, illegal invasion, abortion...Rich leftists have to fantasize about global warming


35 posted on 02/02/2008 5:51:47 AM PST by Rosemont
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To: cgbg
"Global warming" is the rallying cry of those who have declared war on the liberties of people in the United States and throughout the world.

***********************

That's right. There's a lot at stake here.

36 posted on 02/02/2008 5:57:46 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I agree up to “they won”... they may... but we will only know come Tuesday.

So if they succeed in getting the nomination for McCain and then we lose all in Nov, who has won? I can't figure out the Republican plan here.

The ridiculous polsters keep telling the people McCain can win the moderates, the independents, the liberals. Then they talk about the Dems and they say they can win the moderates, the independents, the liberals. Scratching my head.

37 posted on 02/02/2008 6:02:19 AM PST by Hattie
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To: Hattie

It will become clear on Tuesday. I pray meanwhile.

LLS


38 posted on 02/02/2008 6:06:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: dennisw
In 2009 my car will have a bumper sticker reading —
“Don’t blame me I didn’t vote for McCain”

I think I'll have you beat, FRiend...I'm going to make bumper stickers from my tag line.

39 posted on 02/02/2008 6:09:18 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me - I'm a Fredhead!)
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To: abclily
Any human who thinks man can control climate change is mentally retarded.

You are soooo right on this. One of the little inconvenient facts these wackos forget to explain away is: how come the polar caps are melting on Mars?

40 posted on 02/02/2008 6:11:02 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (7/9 of the Supreme Court justices at the time of Kelo vs New London were appointed by Republicans...)
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To: Caipirabob

I think we’d better start re-educating the guy like we did on border security. If he’s gonna be our next prez, we’d best be lining up to put him to good use. I can’t see breaking him in pieces; let’s just break him in, instead.


41 posted on 02/02/2008 6:14:59 AM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: cgbg

You are correct. If they are not called to account, global-warming hoaxers will do more harm to our nation than any Muslims will.


42 posted on 02/02/2008 6:15:57 AM PST by abclily
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To: rightinthemiddle
The Republican Party has fallen for it. The RINOs are in charge. I will not assist them.

They'll soon be in charge of nothing. Taking a line from "Braveheart", the RINOs will be "eating from the scraps of Longshanks' (Hillary, Obama, Harry, or Nancy) table".

I remember how content Bob Michel was when he was House Minority Leader.

The volunteers and energy come from the conservative base of the Republican Party, not the country clubbers. The clubbers will cut back on their cash contributions when they see they aren't getting a decent return on their investment.

43 posted on 02/02/2008 6:16:25 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me - I'm a Fredhead!)
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To: rightinthemiddle

It looks to me like a Hillary/Obama Presidency will be required to make the nation and republicans understand the disaster of liberalism.

Sometimes you need an enema!

My bumper sticker may be “Hillary Enema”


44 posted on 02/02/2008 6:16:53 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Without limited government, there is no religious freedom!)
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To: Night Hides Not
Here is a little somthing you can get right now...


45 posted on 02/02/2008 6:17:51 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Caipirabob
I am seriously considering voting for Hildebeast if McCain gets the Republican nod.

The reason is simple, if McCain is President he and Republicans will be blamed for everything that goes wrong (and rightfully so) and the Democrats will be lauded for everything that goes right.

If Hildebeast is President, she and the Dems will go after each other and the remaining Republicans will actually set the agenda. Very little will happen and that is a good thing.

46 posted on 02/02/2008 6:22:00 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: Mr Rogers
I used to say that if John F. Kennedy were to come alive today he would look at the Republicans and exclaim, "Hurrah, the democrats have won!"

And he would look at the democrat party and say, "Oh NO, the Communists have won."

Now if he were to come alive, he would look at both parties and have to say, "Who let the inmates out of the asylums and put them in charge?"

47 posted on 02/02/2008 6:26:03 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: reasonisfaith

LOL!


48 posted on 02/02/2008 6:27:41 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: TLI

Thanks! I’ll get one next week (kinda short on cash after paying the first of the month bills).


49 posted on 02/02/2008 6:28:37 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me - I'm a Fredhead!)
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To: Caipirabob
A cap and trade system would involve limits or caps (lower than current levels) on the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions produced by polluters like power plants. But companies able to cut their CO2 output at a low cost would be able to sell their left-over pollution permits to companies facing higher costs.

Sort of like the way we white people have stopped using the "n-word", to make it more available for use by black rappers.

50 posted on 02/02/2008 6:29:55 AM PST by hunter112 (With Fred gone, our best hope is for a compromise candidate from a brokered convention.)
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