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America's Most Miserable Cities
Forbes ^ | 30 Janauary 2008 | Kurt Badenhausen

Posted on 02/02/2008 9:26:00 AM PST by Lorianne

We looked at only the 150 largest metropolitan areas, which meant a minimum population of 371,000. We ranked the cities on the six criteria above and added their ranks together to establish what we call the Misery Measure. The data used in the rankings came from Portland, Ore., researcher Bert Sperling, who last year published the second edition of Cities Ranked & Rated along with Peter Sander. Economic research firm Economy.com, which is owned by Moody's, also supplied some data.

Detroit in the top spot, with its sister city Flint ranked third, is probably not a great shock. "If Detroit were a baseball team, we'd say they are mired in a slump," says Sperling. Both Detroit and Flint have suffered tremendously from the auto industry downturn. Flint's plight was immortalized in the Michael Moore movie Roger & Me, which chronicles Moore's attempts to meet with then General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) Chief Executive Roger Smith.

Crime and unemployment are closely linked, according to Sperling. Our three most miserable places bear that out (Stockton, Calif., ranks second). All three are among the eight worst cities in terms of both unemployment and violent crime.

The United States' two biggest cities both induce a ton of misery. New York was the fourth most miserable city by our count, while Los Angeles clocked in at sixth. The Big Apple has the longest commute times (36.2 minutes) and the highest tax rates (10.5%) in the country. As the financial capital of the world and home to write-down kings Merrill Lynch (nyse: MER - news - people ) and Citigroup (nyse: C - news - people ), New York appears poised for more misery in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bluezone; cities; detroit; miserable; topten; urban

1 posted on 02/02/2008 9:26:00 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Baltimore’s got to step up. We can’t be dissed like this...


2 posted on 02/02/2008 9:30:36 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Lorianne

It’s been posted AT LEAST twice already.


3 posted on 02/02/2008 9:31:49 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Lorianne

I don’t see a list


4 posted on 02/02/2008 9:34:22 AM PST by loreldan (Former Fred supporter)
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To: Skywalk

Why do they keep calling Detroit an American city? Everybody knows it’s a muslim province of Canada.


5 posted on 02/02/2008 9:34:40 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Lorianne

Charlotte, NC???

Providence, RI???

And New Orleans is not on this list?

I want the last 5 minutes of my life back. I could have read something useful.


6 posted on 02/02/2008 9:35:16 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

New Orleans isn’t so much a city as it’s a state of mind.


7 posted on 02/02/2008 9:37:51 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Lorianne

No, Washington DC is the most miserable US city. From top to bottom.


8 posted on 02/02/2008 9:39:02 AM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Skywalk
> It’s been posted AT LEAST twice already. <

It's so ridiculous that it probably shouldn't be posted at all. Most of these "ranking articles" by Forbes are silly. But this one takes the cake. Anybody who would put Charlotte among the top ten most-miserable cities is simply a lunatic.

9 posted on 02/02/2008 9:40:48 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Emmett McCarthy

“Why do they keep calling Detroit an American city? Everybody knows it’s a muslim province of Canada.”

Yuk. Yuk. It’s John Conyers’ zoo.


10 posted on 02/02/2008 9:45:17 AM PST by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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To: Hawthorn

“Anybody who would put Charlotte among the top ten most-miserable cities is simply a lunatic.”

I agree.


11 posted on 02/02/2008 9:46:12 AM PST by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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To: Lorianne
Already posted.

Taxes carry a lot of weight in this list. But a lot of people living in NY or LA don't seem to mind high taxes. They may even like it. So people who are set on living there anyway aren't going to think much of Forbes's list.

All these lists have an implied audience in mind. If you can put up with high taxes (or bad weather or crime or heavy traffic) you aren't it for this one.

12 posted on 02/02/2008 9:47:06 AM PST by x
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To: x

“Taxes carry a lot of weight in this list. But a lot of people living in NY or LA don’t seem to mind high taxes.

At least we use high taxes to maintain a large police force, which promptly arrests any and all criminals and takes them to jail.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 9:58:23 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Responsibility2nd

“I want the last 5 minutes of my life back. I could have read something useful.”

I’m with you.


14 posted on 02/02/2008 10:02:59 AM PST by devere
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To: Lorianne

I would have read this sooner, but I was stuck in New York city traffic in the Lincoln Tunnel.


15 posted on 02/02/2008 10:11:51 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The biggest surprise on our list is Charlotte, N.C., which is ranked ninth. Charlotte has undergone tremendous economic growth the past decade, while the population has soared 32%. But the current picture isn't as bright. Employment growth has not kept up with population growth, meaning unemployment rates are up more than 50% compared with 10 years ago. Charlotte scored in the bottom half of all six categories we examined. It scored the worst on violent crime, ranking 140th.

Of course. We gave out driver's licenses to illegals like flyers at a political event.

16 posted on 02/02/2008 10:12:51 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: loreldan
“I don’t see a list”

I don’t either.. I am not going to sit through some long video sequence.. I just want the GD list. Grrrrr

17 posted on 02/02/2008 10:14:30 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: AlexW

I’m going to a biker function tonight in Stockton


18 posted on 02/02/2008 10:18:17 AM PST by clamper1797 (I fear for our republic)
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To: Lorianne

Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Miami, San Francisco, LA all suck: Either they’re infested with liberalism, illegal immigrants, or both.


19 posted on 02/02/2008 10:22:17 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

That is so wrong. Thats really really racist. You really shouldn’t say stuff like that on forums like this. If you can’t say anything constructive, just keep it to yourself.


20 posted on 02/07/2008 7:33:03 AM PST by Trumpet
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To: Lorianne
Go ahead Americans! Start goose-stepping with the Democrats and big labor unions and your city, too, can become one of the nation’s top most miserable!
21 posted on 02/11/2008 5:04:41 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: Trumpet; Emmett McCarthy
“That is so wrong. Thats really really racist. You really shouldn’t say stuff like that on forums like this. If you can’t say anything constructive, just keep it to yourself.”

Interesting comment. Obviously, some might consider your critique of Emmett’s comment idiotic. However, I’m going to be open-minded about this. It's possible you might have a morsel of information to offer.

Can you tell me when Islam became a race?

22 posted on 02/11/2008 5:09:45 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB

I just assumed they forgot to mark it as sarcasm.


23 posted on 02/11/2008 5:11:44 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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