Posted on 02/02/2008 8:52:25 PM PST by Fargo Rock
Something has been bothering me all week and I'm hoping someone here can make me understand. Since 2001, we've been calling the Democrats a party of surrender, anti-war, anti-troops, etc. McCain has his faults. There's no question about it. But why are people like Ann Coulter, Tammy Bruce, Michelle Malkin and many here ready to hand over control of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the future of the War on Terror, and the care of our troops to Hillary Clinton? That's what will happen if people decide to either stay home or vote for Hillary in some kind of misguided moral protest. Don't our troops deserve better than that? It's throwing them to the wolves.
Giving the troops an unfit commander who is an operational security risk is worse than giving them one who will bring them home.
Think about that bootcamp.
I think the president has been way too nice. Mecca would be a glowing hole if I were president.
Tell me, were you reading posts on Free Republic in 1999 when George W. Bush was a cocaine-snorting drug-running one world order devil incarnate?
-—The problem with John McCain is that you never know what he’s going to do - he’s a loose cannon. -—
Santorum said about McCain’s positions in the Senate, that you could never predict how he might go on a given issue, because he didn’t seem to have a set of fixed principles.
I don’t have the time to dig up threads for you. Do a search prior to probably the spring of 2000 and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about.
No, I’m not a single issue voter but that’s the issue I consider to be most important. And if I don’t have the option of voting for a real conservative candidate, I have to weigh what matters most and see which one will do the least damage.
Ah yes, but I'm wiser now & see what the consequences of falling for that line of reasoning have gotten us - further to the left & the party in tatters. It will only get worse the next time around.
This insanity has got to stop now.
No, I don't. The war against liberalism/socialism is the most important issue right now. The Republican party is being overtaken by the Anti-Conservatives and need to be purged, for the good of the country. If the Republicans need to take a beating in this election, so be it. btw, I will be voting either third party or write-in, but most assurdedly not Republican, given the current choices.
You nailed it!
Supreme court judges are a crap shoot no matter who appoints them.
I think a more accurate assessment would be this: Center-right judges, upon appointment to the High Court, tend to get caught up in the leftist expectations of Washington culture. As a result, they gradually become center-left justices (think: Sandra Day O'Conner) or unabashedly liberal justices (think: Earl Warren, William Brennan, and David Souter).
Consistently conservative thinkers, however, such as Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia, generally remain impervious to this pressure. They stay conservative.
Progressive thinkers, by contrast--the "Living Constitution" types--tend to become even more unapologetically liberal over time, as the Washington culture gives them permission to do so. Indeed, it encourages this "growth."
So I would rather have a Republican president who will probably, at worst, nominate center-right judges who turn into center-left apostates, rather than a Democratic president who will appoint unreconstructed leftists who will only gravitate further to the left.
Then how would you feel if the choice were some bozo like Bloomberg or Ron Paul vs. Hillary? The guy has no WOT credentials, so you’d vote for Hillary?
That’s how conservatives feel about the current choice. It’s a republican anticonservative vs. a democrat anticonservative. If it were a cut & run appeaser republican vs. a cut & run appeaser democrat, how would you feel? About the same conservatives feel now.
Then, to top it off, a bunch of RINOs come onto this conservative site and try to browbeat us into supporting an anticonservative. What would it be if I went onto a cut&run appeasement site and browbeat them into voting for Duncan Hunter because he was the republican? It would be impolite, in the very least.
Our choices are absolutely horrible, no doubt about that. I just have more to agree with McCain on than I do Clinton or Obama. We *need* to get active in any way we can to cultivate real conservatives, working for them locally, encouraging good conservative people to run for office where they can, in order to prevent this kind of bind down the road.
Possiblly, possible not, but had I been in charge I know for a fact those mountains at tora bora would be glowing for a hundred years.
I'm a conservative and I'll never vote for Romney. I think he's the most liberal of the Repubs.
No kidding.
Everyone is talking about McCain vs Hillary.
What about McCain vs Obama?
I think he could get the nod, and I also think indys, so called moderates...and plenty of ppl would vote for the guy.
He has said he would rather face McCain...(of course...he mumbles, and fumbles ...) and I think the youth vote would put him in.
Then we are in a situation.
The Democrats are indeed the party of surrender. But McLame isn’t the cats meow.
I want to know how McLame is going to fight against the terrorists when he wants us to give them a bill of rights.
I want to know how McLame wants to give us more leverage in the Middle East when he wants to keep us from drilling in ANWR.
I want to know how McLame will keep our borders safe from terrorists when he is for Amnesty for the illegals already here.
I want to know how McLame will react when his generals give him information that he doesn’t like or doesn’t agree with...
For all his faults, Bush has been a president who at least worked listened to his generals. He has not been known as a man who refused to listen to critics within. McLame, otoh, by all accounts, is a guy who refuses to budge even when shown to be incorrect. (see: the last debate)
Bush has wanted us to drill in ANWR to help us be less dependent on the sheiks.
Bush worked for amnesty and lost. But to his CREDIT his administration also strengthened enforcement and ended the “catch and release” program we had been following for illegals.
Bush doesn’t want the GITMO terrorists to be given special treatment, like McCain.
As far as the Democrats go, you’re right: they do suck when it comes to the WoT. I guess I’d have to wonder whether in degree how much worse they’d be than McLame. The guy talks like a hawk, but I haven’t seen him take on the Democrats on the issue. Instead, he wants to constantly work “with the other side of the aisle”, as if the Democrats have reasonable ideas.
Well, balderdash.
I don’t trust McCain to be true to his word—he’d move to the left as soon as he was elected.
Dude, who am I trying to browbeat? I asked a question because I was genuinely curious as to how people were thinking. I haven’t criticized anyone’s response. I appreciate all of them, regardless of whether or not I agree with them.
If McCain is the nominee I won’t vote for him. I would have a very hard time actually voting for Hillary though.
I have thought about writing in:
“Old Relish Packet” — has a very reassuring sound to it
“Small Yappy Dog” — not fully convinced the conversion on abortion is genuine
If I were president9-11-2000, Mecca would still be glowing. They could impeach me, shot me, or whatever... but Islam would be finished without Mecca.
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They don't seem to be such a crap shoot for Democrat presidents.
Can you name a Democrat-appointed justice that has turned out conservative?
I'll hang up and listen to my answer.
Hank
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